Bed material for nylon printing

Bed material for nylon printing Hello, I have recently started to print using nylon (Taulman 618 to be precise). I get really nice prints but are having problems getting the nylon to stick to the build bed. I have tried both kapton and blue tape with different temperatures but are not satisfied with the stickiness, the object comes loose after 15-20 min printing. Any ideas of what to try/use? Thank you /Björn https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175173#msg-175173 Tue, 09 Jun 2026 16:41:09 -0400 Phorum 5.2.23 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,549721#msg-549721 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,549721#msg-549721
I have had great success with an aluminium bed at 80c with a thick-ish coat of hair spray.]]> TehStranger General Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:50:15 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,316499#msg-316499 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,316499#msg-316499

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Gulf
I just saw that the taulman3D web page has been updated with some more bed materials.
[www.taulman3d.com]

I found a printed circuit board at radio shack that was big enough to give a try but even on a small 0.75 in diameter cylinder the plastic was distorting the circuit board, it did stay down but the thin board did not have enough strength to keep a larger part from deforming the circuit board. Perhaps a thicker circuit board or one that was mechanically attached to a sheet of aluminum or something else.
The updated taulman3D page suggested Garolite (LE) from McMaster Carr, I am going to give that a shot and if it works well I will test it with PLA ABS and PC.

Anyone have any other ideas?

Using double sided tape to hold the PCB to glass would probably work fine.]]> tjb1 General Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:49:55 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,316466#msg-316466 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,316466#msg-316466
I have tried 3" painters tape and taken some sandpaper to scuff the surface (doesn't need much), then just a simple wipe with a damp cloth (make sure to let it dry before printing) and came out with good results and minimal curling while printing a phone case (1.5 to 2 hour print @ 0.2mm layers, 240C print head, no raft, bed heat turned off). This was also with un-dried nylon so I would imagine drying it would give a better outcome. I did find that after 2-3 prints, replacing the tape is inevitable because of it sticking and pulling the tape off the bed (deforming it, rendering it unusable).]]> blizbiggy General Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:36:49 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,297549#msg-297549 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,297549#msg-297549 [attachment 25155 Foamingratio1_4_t235.jpg]
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I dried it in kitchen oven like this (150C during 4 hours):

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I use capton on heated bed (104-110C) BUT it should be clean. Print at the same place second time if it doesn't stick first time - it works. Or you can clean capton sufarce from fat and dust.

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BR,
Sergey]]> SergeyA General Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:07:43 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,297028#msg-297028 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,297028#msg-297028 By the way, expriment shows that foaming factor (material volume after extrusion to before extrusin ratio) of non-dried Nylon618 from Taulman is about 2. See photo from microscope and find steam bubbles inside bonded extrusion. Length of bottom marker is 0.2mm (200um). I share results of dried Nylon after testing when I have it.
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[attachment 25057 Foamingratio2_3.jpg]]]> SergeyA General Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:23:27 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291256#msg-291256 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291256#msg-291256 [coherent-reprap.blogspot.com]
I got a nice looking print the first time I used that surface even though my nylon wasn't super dry.]]> Coherent General Wed, 08 Jan 2014 08:54:17 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291178#msg-291178 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291178#msg-291178 Srek General Wed, 08 Jan 2014 06:27:48 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291152#msg-291152 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291152#msg-291152 DeuxVis General Wed, 08 Jan 2014 05:27:57 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291080#msg-291080 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,291080#msg-291080
To relase the printed nyilon from the bed is another story, since it's quite hard to peal off (even with hard force that can be damaging the printed parts), the thin layer of glue is bonding soo much I feels like glueing the thin paper with strong adhesive glue, so I use a tap water with a sponge and rub it all arround together with a litle force to lift the printed part.

So far so good with this solution, next time will try to use this glue dirrect to the glass and will post the result.

the only problem to deal with is the wraping at the bottom layers, may be I need to turn on and heated to specific temperature, can some one ever play with this ? also un-dried the nyilon filament, the printing result is looks like a foamie.

Nyilon material I used is the cheap and cheerfull regular nyilon 2 - 2.5mm diameter which is available at a local markets here (they are ussually use these for fishing / big fish fishing line:) and they worth for $4 (converted to US$) sold per 6 rols (approx 50meters long) -- so cheap and worth to try.

or may be it a must to use a Taulman 618 Natural Nylon Filament to get a perfect result ? duno since there is no way to get these taulman nyilon here.]]> delokaver General Wed, 08 Jan 2014 00:22:33 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,205245#msg-205245 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,205245#msg-205245 NewPerfection General Fri, 03 May 2013 21:24:20 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,205241#msg-205241 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,205241#msg-205241
I had the problem with the tape pulling off, Its because the glue on the tape isnt very effective at high temps. So i get the bed hot for the first couple layers to help adhesion and prevent as much warping as possible on the first 5-10 layers. By cutting the heat it allows the tape to stick properly and as the bed cools the bottom of the part cools evenly and doesn't warp.

Let me know if this works for you guys.]]> hendo420 General Fri, 03 May 2013 21:12:50 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,205220#msg-205220 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,205220#msg-205220 I'm just starting to play with some 618, and now worried about attempting a longer print....

Right now I'm running my Onyx bed at 75c and using 3" wide blue tape on glass. I found on a previous printer that wider blue tape can help preven the print from pulling the tape away from the bed (especially if you watch where you place the tape seams in relation to the print)]]> cassetti General Fri, 03 May 2013 18:12:29 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180654#msg-180654 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180654#msg-180654 At 230 as reported by my hotend I can print, but with significant infill it trends to delaminates, much like ABS at too low a temperature, at 245 again with the dodgy heat reporting it doesn't do that.

The issue I has with blue tape is although the nylon stuck to it, as the print progressed the warping would simply pull the tape off the glass sheet.]]> Polygonhell General Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:35:00 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180571#msg-180571 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180571#msg-180571
I started at 240 (calibrated with a thermocouple) and have lowered down to 200 degrees, the parts seem as strong as the higher temp prints, so I don't think Nylon needs such high temperatures people seem to be using.

Anyone else have any feedback on temp v strength.]]> richrap General Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:59:32 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180370#msg-180370 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180370#msg-180370 I might try and pick up a pieve of 1/2 or 1 inch Nylon sheet, it should be rigid enough to stay flat once it it and if it isn't I can at least machine it flat.

I also picked up an untreated Polar board to try and I've had my most success with that, it's not really flat, but it's better than the nylon sheet, again print height is really important, and it can stick so hard that you end up scarping wood off the bottom of the part.]]> Polygonhell General Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:40:12 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180361#msg-180361 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,180361#msg-180361
In the end I found that an approximately 1%ABS/acetone solution spread as even as possible will usually allow the part to release when cooled. If I miss a spot the Nylon bonds to the garolite and destroys it, likewise if there is to much ABS the print will fail.

ABS will not stick to bare garolit however an ABS/acetone mix spread before hand works well, I have not tried other materials yet.
Overall I have made several good prints at this point but would like a better surface.

One last warning, it's not flat. My small 6" x 6" piece was rather crowned with a high spot in the center.

I also tried to print onto Corian, it dosn't stick well enough.]]> Gulf General Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:42:51 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,178372#msg-178372 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,178372#msg-178372 The raft seems to stick pretty well, but I still get some warping. The amazing thing is how easy to remove the raft is, it literally just peels off.
I'm considering printing the raft, then stopping the print, letting the raft cool and printing on the cooled raft.
I also ordered some nylon plate to try.

It's a pity the warping is so hard to deal with, the material looks and feels great.]]> Polygonhell General Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:55:47 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,178336#msg-178336 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,178336#msg-178336 [www.taulman3d.com]

I found a printed circuit board at radio shack that was big enough to give a try but even on a small 0.75 in diameter cylinder the plastic was distorting the circuit board, it did stay down but the thin board did not have enough strength to keep a larger part from deforming the circuit board. Perhaps a thicker circuit board or one that was mechanically attached to a sheet of aluminum or something else.
The updated taulman3D page suggested Garolite (LE) from McMaster Carr, I am going to give that a shot and if it works well I will test it with PLA ABS and PC.

Anyone have any other ideas?]]> Gulf General Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:20:31 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,176614#msg-176614 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,176614#msg-176614 Dirty Steve General Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:17:14 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,176602#msg-176602 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,176602#msg-176602 jcabrer General Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:54:15 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175390#msg-175390 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175390#msg-175390 Anyone tried a heigher bed temp?]]> Gulf General Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:38:20 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175342#msg-175342 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175342#msg-175342
Kapton: Not good at any temperature.

Blue tape (M3): Best so far but the tape itself comes loose if temperature is high (100C). Could be the texture that helps the nylon stick.

Thin layer of Bostik Primer 6000: Works great for PLA at 55C but looses its effect with higher temperatures. For Nylon it is better than Kapton but worse than blue tape.

I have some PET tape I haven't tried yet but my hopes for this tape to work are not high.

xclusive585: Check out dx.com they have Kapton (or similar) tape that I use successfully with ABS.]]> netbear General Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:05:51 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175296#msg-175296 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175296#msg-175296 NewPerfection General Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:24:46 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175290#msg-175290 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175290#msg-175290
Kapton Tape (expensive! like wow expensive)
Mixture of water and white (elmers) glue applied to bed with cloth or brush in a thin coat. (I've never done this and peoples recommended ratios vary, see the "printing" forum here.)]]> xclusive585 General Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:48:18 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175225#msg-175225 Re: Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175225#msg-175225 NewPerfection General Sun, 06 Jan 2013 13:54:46 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175173#msg-175173 Bed material for nylon printing https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?1,175173,175173#msg-175173
I have recently started to print using nylon (Taulman 618 to be precise). I get really nice prints but are having problems getting the nylon to stick to the build bed. I have tried both kapton and blue tape with different temperatures but are not satisfied with the stickiness, the object comes loose after 15-20 min printing.

Any ideas of what to try/use?

Thank you
/Björn]]> netbear General Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:07:47 -0500