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        <description> I&#039;ve got a strange effect happening at the moment with my prints:



  

    
      
    

    

    

    
        
    

    

    

    
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That&#039;s the vertical view of a &#039;reprap shot glass&#039; The outer shell of the print is not in contact with the inner shell. This artifact seems to be happening in most of my prints, in one form or another. With some, the lower layers are offset up from upper layers. With others, holes aren&#039;t symmetrical on both sides of the print. It&#039;s just clearest here. 

For this print, I just used a fresh re-install of SFact, with no setting changes at all. I believe it&#039;s not a printing artifact.

Vertically, the print comes out beautifully, it&#039;s looks like it&#039;s getting some strange instructions. Is SF not skeining correctly?



  

    
      
    

    

    

    
        
    

    

    

    
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Any suggestions would be appreciated.</description>
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            <title>Re: What&#039;s going on here?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It's due to the Sprinter firmware. Marlin configuration.h file is very close to Sprinter so it would be easy to change.<br />
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You can get it here:<br />
<a href="https://github.com/ErikZalm/Marlin" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">Gen 6</a><br />
<a href="https://github.com/ErikZalm/Marlin-non-gen6" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">Non-Gen 6</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
            <category>Skeinforge</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:00:10 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: What&#039;s going on here?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I'm using 60 mm/sec feed rate, which I know is fairly high for a new printer.<br />
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I think the wiggles are caused by 'stickiness' of the bushings. Hopefully, they'll go away as the printer wears in, or I'll just change to linear bearings.<br />
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I must admit, I haven't heard of the Marlin firmware before, I'll have a look into it.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Shibboleth</dc:creator>
            <category>Skeinforge</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:54:44 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: What&#039;s going on here?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ brnrd Wrote:<br />
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&gt; What feed rate are you using? You should try the<br />
&gt; Marlin firmware. Those wiggles in the loops would<br />
&gt; probably go away if you do.<br />
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+1]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pointedstick</dc:creator>
            <category>Skeinforge</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:47:50 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: What&#039;s going on here?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ What feed rate are you using? You should try the Marlin firmware. Those wiggles in the loops would probably go away if you do.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
            <category>Skeinforge</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:47:08 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: What&#039;s going on here?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It looks like Nophead was right. The Al pulleys were too narrow. As soon as I took them off and replaced them with the original RP pulleys, great improvements occured:<br />
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As you can see, this has fixed up the problem 99%Thanks for all the help!<br/>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Shibboleth</dc:creator>
            <category>Skeinforge</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 03:30:09 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I had something like that at one point but not quite as extreme. Think my issue was a loose x axis - the bushings on the z axis had worn down a bit and that was allowing the x axis to move to and fro a bit on some moves.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>CeeThreeEs</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:33:55 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Shibboleth,  Sadly I can't help work out what's happening with your print but I would like to ask that when you find the cause, and you have the time, would you consider adding a photo and short description to the 3D print failure Flickr pool? <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/3d-print-failures" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/groups/3d-print-failures</a>  It might help others with the same problem in the future.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>garyhodgson</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:46:47 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: What&#039;s going on here?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Looks like severe backlash to me. Did you get the aluminium pulleys on eBay from Hong Kong? If so the teeth are too thin and allow the belt to slip when it changes direction.<br />
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Is this a Prusa or a Mendel?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nophead</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:48:02 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: What&#039;s going on here?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not totally sure how to go about checking the toolpath, but here's the screen output in Pronterface:<br />
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<br />
As to the other suggestions:<br />
Missing Teeth - I use Aluminium pulleys.<br />
Loose Belts - Both X and Y makes a nice 'twang' sound when plucked.<br />
Slipping Pulleys - Unlikely. I have flats on my motors, and the grub screws are wound down.<br />
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I can't see where the problem is, but it does seem (judging from the screenshot above) that it must be mechanical. Thanks for the suggestions!<br/>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Shibboleth</dc:creator>
            <category>Skeinforge</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:53:49 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I would say you have a loose belt(s).]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sublime</dc:creator>
            <category>Skeinforge</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:59:44 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>brnd</strong><br />
Have you confirmed that the toolpath generated from the g-code has the same problem before suspecting SF or SFACT?</div></blockquote>
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What he is saying is you should look at the skeinlayer output to see if this is really being set to the printer or if you have some other problem such as loose belts, missing tooth on pulley, loose pulley, or something else mechanical that could cause the problem.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rhmorrison</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:00:29 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Have you confirmed that the toolpath generated from the g-code has the same problem before suspecting SF or SFACT?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:41:40 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I've got a strange effect happening at the moment with my prints:<br />
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That's the vertical view of a '<a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:11944" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">reprap shot glass</a>' The outer shell of the print is not in contact with the inner shell. This artifact seems to be happening in most of my prints, in one form or another. With some, the lower layers are offset up from upper layers. With others, holes aren't symmetrical on both sides of the print. It's just clearest here. <br />
<br />
For this print, I just used a fresh re-install of SFact, with no setting changes at all. I believe it's not a printing artifact.<br />
<br />
Vertically, the print comes out beautifully, it's looks like it's getting some strange instructions. Is SF not skeining correctly?<br />
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Any suggestions would be appreciated.<br/>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Shibboleth</dc:creator>
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