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        <title>Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
        <description> Hi everyone !

Sorry for the question but it&#039;s my first build of a Rostock Mini and i&#039;d like to know if it is possible to use a ramps instead of a Sanguinololu. In the Manuals, described at reprap.org, they describe it only with a Sanguinololu. 
Is this because of the height of the ramps ? 

Or is there no problem at all? 
And can i use it with Repetier?


Thanks for every reply. 



Regards
Daniel</description>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>RipseR</strong><br />
Mine is 3DprinterCzar kit. <br />
Sourcing partson mine one would be more expensive and time consuming.<br />
<br />
@Replace<br />
@DinoK<br />
How is your vertical (tower) stability?<br />
How bad is the linear bearings and Traxxas joins play?<br />
<br />
I had to put 3 bearings per tower to minimise the play in the towers,<br />
 and I am not impressed  in the Traxxas joints eather....</div></blockquote>
<br />
I am very satisfied with the kit, sourcing parts would indeed be more expensive.The big money saver was <br />
the fact that I didn't have to pay for shipping and customs so for me it was <a href="http://www.deltarap.org/about-my-printer/" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">almost half the price of<br />
buying Printrbot Metal Simple.</a><br />
LM8UU linear bearings are low quality and I am printing replacement PLA bushings as we speak. Already mounted them<br />
on one tower and am very satisfied with the result(no play,quiet,cheap).<br />
Traxxas joints have developed a slop(backlash) but the rubber bands on the rods will tighten it up.<br />
Have also mounted the extruder on top, changed pulleys from 36-teeth to 20-teeth, adjusted the voltage on motors<br />
and am slowly replacing all carriages for stronger ones. The biggest weakness of the kit is lack of proper cooling from the start<br />
which can cause the hotend mount to melt. Stability has not been an issue for me, I am getting very good results since the printer<br />
was properly calibrated and tuned.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>DinoK</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 02:56:21 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,444988#msg-444988</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ @dkdaniel, I agree with Kurzaa. You may have to accept a slightly lower print speed, but that's probably the only issue you will have if you use stepper motors with a little lower than the recommended  torque.]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:41:54 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ @dkdaniel, if you already have the 36 N/cm motors, it doesn't hurt to give them a try. Worst case is you will eventually need to order new ones to swap out, which shouldn't be too difficult.<br />
<br />
@Replace, thanks for the Thingiverse link, I have been trying to make something similar to hold my print bed. I also like the idea of the LCD on top.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Kurzaa</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:43:17 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,440427#msg-440427</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the reply . I asked because of the fact, that in the Reprap documentation of the Rostock mini , the list of materials is described a nema17 with a holding torque of 44 N/cm. But if i can use the 36 N/cm it's fine. Isn't there a difference between a 3 axis printer and a delta printer according to the holding torque ?<br />
<br />
<br />
Daniel]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 09:37:21 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,440303#msg-440303</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ According to the RepRap website:<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong></strong><br />"It is recommended that you get approximately 13.7 N-cm (= 0.137 N-m or 1400 gf-cm or 19.4 ozf-in or 1.21 lbf-in) of holding torque (or more) for RepRap axis motors to avoid issues, although one stepper with less has been used successfully. For Wade's Geared Extruder (most widely used one as of 2012) it is suggested to use motor that is capable of creating a holding torque of at least 40 N-cm."</div></blockquote>
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://robotics.stackexchange.com/questions/446/how-much-torque-do-i-need-for-a-cnc-machine" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">http://robotics.stackexchange.com/questions/446/how-much-torque-do-i-need-for-a-cnc-machine</a><br />
<a href="http://reprap.org/wiki/StepperMotor#Holding_Torque" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">http://reprap.org/wiki/StepperMotor#Holding_Torque</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>DinoK</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 01:41:01 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,440298#msg-440298</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for all your helpful reply's.<br />
Csn anyone help me with finding the answer of this question ? That would be great.<br />
<br />
I have a nema set from another project. But the holding torque is at 3,6 kg/cm. <br />
Can i use them for a Rostock mini or are they not strong enough for a delta printer ?<br />
<br />
And i like to use a Direct Drive Bowden Extruder, is it the best or is a "normal"  extruder better ? I built a Prusa I3 with a Direct drive and i think it was faster than the normal extruders. <br />
And how strong or fast  should the motor be at such a direct drive if it should used with adult printer ?<br />
<br />
<br />
Daniel]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dkdaniel</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:52:09 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,440070#msg-440070</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ @RipseR<br />
<br />
It is my first Delta, not expensive in my opinion.<br />
But way less stable than my Orcabot  (Cartesian)<br />
<br />
I think that I would go for another Delta if I had to do it again.<br />
Qualiy of Czar parts is bad. I already have printed new HotEnd mountings (as you could see) and am planning to reprint more.<br />
<br />
I think a Delta with la profiles and stronger bottom/top would be preferable.<br />
<br />
And yes, the traxxas give play. In my build, friction and torque on the bowden will displace the central unit.<br />
But for my prints up till now not really a problem, as long as nobody touches when printing :-)<br />
<br />
Thomas.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Replace</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:30:11 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,439907#msg-439907</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ @RipseR <br />
Would You Say that it is Better with 3 lm8uu on every stainless steel tube?<br />
<br />
Is it a Big problem and what about the prints ? Are they getting exact enough ?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dkdaniel</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:22:39 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,439849#msg-439849</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Mine is 3DprinterCzar kit. <br />
Sourcing partson mine one would be more expensive and time consuming.<br />
<br />
@Replace<br />
@DinoK<br />
How is your vertical (tower) stability?<br />
How bad is the linear bearings and Traxxas joins play?<br />
<br />
I had to put 3 bearings per tower to minimise the play in the towers,<br />
 and I am not impressed  in the Traxxas joints eather....]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RipseR</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 17:54:41 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ And of-course, <br />
mine also with the Ramps on top :-)<br />
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It is Tie-Wrapped spaghetti, but it works fine :-)<br />
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Thomas<br/>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Replace</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,439583#msg-439583</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I also have Rostock mini pro with RAMPS 1.4 running Repetier, started documenting the whole building process <a href="http://www.deltarap.org/building-of-rostock-mini-pro-by-3dprinterczar/" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">here</a>.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>DinoK</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:08:56 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Looks good.<br />
<br />
Can i ask you where you got the acrylic plates from ?<br />
Have searched at Ebay, but not found anything. <br />
Only plywood, but i think acrylic is more stable and has less problems with the heat, right ?<br />
<br />
Regards<br />
Daniel]]></description>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,439360,439481#msg-439481</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I have it beside the printer in a plastic box with the fan.<br />
<br />
This is my current setup:<br />
<br />
[attachment 44642 RostockminiproRipseR.jpg]<br />
[attachment 44643 RostockminiproelectronicsRipseR.jpg]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RipseR</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:52:38 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the reply. <br />
Where do zou have the electronics ?<br />
On top of the printer ?<br />
And i have to use Nema17 with 44 N/cm (4,4 kg/cm) or can i use Nemas with less power ?<br />
 <br />
<br />
Regards<br />
Daniel]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dkdaniel</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:15:59 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Can i use the Rostock mini with a Ramps instead of a Sanguinololu ?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hello!<br />
<br />
Yes, you can. <br />
I have Rostock mini pro with RAMPS 1.4 running Repetier.<br />
But I did not put the electronics under the printer.<br />
<br />
Regards,<br />
Martin]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RipseR</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi everyone !<br />
<br />
Sorry for the question but it's my first build of a Rostock Mini and i'd like to know if it is possible to use a ramps instead of a Sanguinololu. In the Manuals, described at reprap.org, they describe it only with a Sanguinololu. <br />
Is this because of the height of the ramps ? <br />
<br />
Or is there no problem at all? <br />
And can i use it with Repetier?<br />
<br />
<br />
Thanks for every reply. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Regards<br />
Daniel]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dkdaniel</dc:creator>
            <category>Delta Machines</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:48:48 -0500</pubDate>
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