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        <description>Hey everyone,

I have been thinking of upgrading to a 24V, 17A 400W power supply for my mendelmax, and I was hoping some folks can help me out with some questions.

1) Has anyone who has upgraded from 12V to 24V noticed a difference? This is by far my biggest question. I can see how it would help heat the bed up faster being able to use a 24V heater in place of a 12V heater, but the steppers are only around 4V steppers, so I am not sure this would actually do anything for the steppers, but would love some opinions.

2) Is 17A enough current? My current PSU is 12V 30A so this would be a current downgrade, but a voltage upgrade.

3) I read about removing D1 on my Ramps 1.4 board, but I am wondering if there is anything else that needs to be done either to the Ramps board, or the firmware, or anything else other than just a wiring to the new PSU instead of the old one? I read that removing the D1 that you can use up to 35V</description>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,880567#msg-880567</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>charlie68</strong><br />Looking at the Ramps 1.4 schematic [<a href="https://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/f/f6/RAMPS1.4schematic.png" target="_blank" >reprap.org</a>] , the MOSFETS for the bed, hotend and fan switch to ground, so if I ignore the RAMPS + terminal and instead<b><i> wire my fan + to (a fused) 12V</i></b>, and <b><i>fan - to RAMPS D9 </i></b> then my fan is running at 12v with PWM control right?</div></blockquote>
<br />
Correct. That should work just fine to run a 12V fan.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>MMcLure</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2021 14:06:36 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,880564#msg-880564</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Appreciate this is an old thread ... but still good info on cheking Poly fuses, capacitor voltages and Ardunio voltage.<br />
<br />
I'm keen to use my Ramps 1.4 at 24V to run my steppers, heatbed and hotend at 24V, but keep my part cooling fan at 12v (24V fans are hard to find). <br />
<br />
Looking at the Ramps 1.4 schematic [<a href="https://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/f/f6/RAMPS1.4schematic.png" target="_blank" >reprap.org</a>] , the MOSFETS for the bed, hotend and fan switch to ground, so if I ignore the RAMPS + terminal and instead<b><i> wire my fan + to (a fused) 12V</i></b>, and <b><i>fan - to RAMPS D9 </i></b> then my fan is running at 12v with PWM control right?<br />
<br />
Thanks, <br />
<br />
David, Bristol UK.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>charlie68</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2021 11:59:15 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,876393#msg-876393</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ @Ohmarinus - Thank you so much, there was quite a bit of good reading there and I appreciate it. I did actually find another page on reprap.org that gave me the info I wanted, whether my changes were sufficient and that D1 needed to be removed so my PC could power the arduino. This is what I came across - [<a href="https://www.reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS_1.4#Maximum_Input_Voltage" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">www.reprap.org</a>]  actually it was passed to me by a friend but nonetheless it gave me the info.<br />
<br />
Having said that I will enjoy reading up the links you've passed on though some of it was about running a system with 12v parts on it at 24v, where I'm running a system that is already fully 24v and I just wanted to temporarily insert RAMPS, modify and then run it at 24v so I could run my machine while my Duet was at the doctors.<br />
<br />
It was as I thought just a matter of upgrading the caps so they don't pop, removing the fuses and adding real ones in the 24v line and then taking out D1, all is now well and the printer is happily running even though it is a bit noisier ( the Duet2 is a superb piece of kit for making the morors run quiet as well as a lot of other stuff)  :)<br />
<br />
Thanks again for your offerings, they are appreciated and I'll enjoy reading through them and watching the vids.<br />
<br />
Keith]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Kayjay</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2020 13:43:23 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,876358#msg-876358</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Kayjay</strong><br />
I realise this is an old thread but as my question is very close to the topic of this thread I thought I would ask here.<br />
<br />
I use a Bigbox bought a few years back from E3D-Online but recently I have had a possible problem with the Duet 2 board I use in it so it's currently away being tested (the board not the Bigbox). In the meantime I'd like to use my RAMPS board from my old Mendel to drive the Bigbox. Now then herein lies the problem/question, the Bigbox runs on 24v, so it's all set up for that, bed, hotend, fans everything .... I was thinking that I would update the capacitors on the RAMPS board to 35v so the existing 16v ones don't pop nasty electrolyte all over my lovely printer, easy enough to do. I next would link out the fuses with heavy wire and put inline fuses in the input lines from my 24v supply.<br />
<br />
Would this be sufficient or would I need to do any more changes to the RAMPS board, like,say, D1, should I take it out and power the Arduino from my PC via the USB?<br />
<br />
Anyone have any solid answers for me?<br />
<br />
Thanks guys<br />
Keith</div></blockquote>
<br />
There's a lot of information on this page:<br />
[<a href="https://reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS_24v" target="_blank" >reprap.org</a>]<br />
<br />
And here:<br />
[<a href="https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,799330" target="_blank" >reprap.org</a>]<br />
<br />
And some youtube info:<br />
[<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADpFjGaIxNo" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com</a>]<br />
<br />
PS also check out this topic:<br />
[<a href="https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,865036" target="_blank" >reprap.org</a>]<br />
<br />
PPS one more link :D<br />
[<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkiltNfGo-I" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Ohmarinus</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:10:52 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,876356#msg-876356</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I realise this is an old thread but as my question is very close to the topic of this thread I thought I would ask here.<br />
<br />
I use a Bigbox bought a few years back from E3D-Online but recently I have had a possible problem with the Duet 2 board I use in it so it's currently away being tested (the board not the Bigbox). In the meantime I'd like to use my RAMPS board from my old Mendel to drive the Bigbox. Now then herein lies the problem/question, the Bigbox runs on 24v, so it's all set up for that, bed, hotend, fans everything .... I was thinking that I would update the capacitors on the RAMPS board to 35v so the existing 16v ones don't pop nasty electrolyte all over my lovely printer, easy enough to do. I next would link out the fuses with heavy wire and put inline fuses in the input lines from my 24v supply.<br />
<br />
Would this be sufficient or would I need to do any more changes to the RAMPS board, like,say, D1, should I take it out and power the Arduino from my PC via the USB?<br />
<br />
Anyone have any solid answers for me?<br />
<br />
Thanks guys<br />
Keith]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Kayjay</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:35:33 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,800864#msg-800864</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>imqqmi</strong><br />
Please take a look at the schematic of the arduino atmega2560. There's a 5V regulator MC33269ST-5.0T3 or MC33269D-5.0 (I suspect the same regulator but a different package). <br />
If you put 5V on one of the 5V output you put 5V on the output of the regulator. Since the output of any regulator is low impedance, effectively giving it a short circuit. Hopefully the thermal protection kicks in and it still works. You'll need to unsolder the regulator as well but I suggest you use the pwrin (adapter power input) input instead. Just use a buck converter from 24 to 7 to 12V and all should be ok.<br />
<br />
Another thing you can try if you're feeling adventurous, you could try replacing the MC33269 regulator to one that can take 24V. That would eliminate the need for a step down converter and simplify the design.</div></blockquote>
<br />
If I replace the regulator of the Arduino to one that handle 24v (LM7805 is the best? Other suggestion?), like the HugoW, i don't need to remove the diode D1 for the ramps?<br />
<br />
Other questions: <br />
-The endstops, LCD, and sensors need to be replaced?<br />
-Any motor can handle with this new configuration and will be better for they?<br />
<br />
Sorry for my bad english.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>arturmora</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:09:44 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,790620#msg-790620</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>imqqmi</strong><br />
You are using the 12v as the negative terminal and the pwm output as positive terminal. Make sure 0V of each power output is connected, and don't make assumptions by looking at markings and colors. Use a voltmeter to find each psu polarity, then use a continuity or ohm meter to make sure the 0V is connected properly. Also measure the ramps board, make sure which terminal is 0V. Use the schematic to make sure you're connecting to the right terminal.</div></blockquote>Of course.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dark Alchemist</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2017 04:39:38 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,790607#msg-790607</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ You are using the 12v as the negative terminal and the pwm output as positive terminal. Make sure 0V of each power output is connected, and don't make assumptions by looking at markings and colors. Use a voltmeter to find each psu polarity, then use a continuity or ohm meter to make sure the 0V is connected properly. Also measure the ramps board, make sure which terminal is 0V. Use the schematic to make sure you're connecting to the right terminal.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>imqqmi</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2017 02:14:12 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I have an oddity I am not grasping what could be happening.  I have a 24v setup and when I use the negative wire from D9 and the positive wire from my 24v to 12v converter (negative is shared between the 24v and 12v sides) I can do M106 S127 and it goes to 0v.  Now 127 to 255 is from 0 to full 12v and 0 to 127 is -12 to 0v.  How could that be happening?  I checked the 24v coming from both terminals of D9 and it was S0 to 255 for 0v to 24v.  I am stumped because I know I used this years ago but it was on a board that burned up and this board has the better IRL fets.<br />
<br />
Anyone have any ideas?<br />
<br />
edit: After spending all day on this I have tried even a 12v psu with its negative tied to the other 24v power supply and I am seeing the same thing.  What I did was grab the old fan that worked long ago and it whines now.  You know that square wave whine so I guess the better mosfets (they never even get warm) changed something so the technique that was mentioned on this thread will not work.<br />
<br />
edit:  Marlin changed is what was happening so I had to turn on fast_pwm and the noise is gone and the off beat readings is because of my junky DMM.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dark Alchemist</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2017 19:41:04 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,783915#msg-783915</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ External mosfets are a fad and quite unneeded, just replace current mosfet with a IRLB 8743]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dust</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 05:51:24 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,783909#msg-783909</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ My recommendation will be to use a buck converter and an external MOSFET. Use 24V power supply and use buck converter to step down to 12V and power the Ramps. After that use external Mosfet to power the print bed. The easiest solution.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>methesoul</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 04:41:18 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,782850#msg-782850</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ You'll have to check a few things to make sure it'll work. I think the protection diode is for protecting against connecting the input voltage to ramps and arduino power connector. If both are connected and not at the same potential, a short circuit can occur without the diode. <br />
<br />
Also check the power dissipation of the voltage regulator at the input voltage you're using it. If it needs to drop a large amount of voltage, it may heat up. You can calculate based on the information in the datasheet how much that is, or just feel if it's still cool to the touch, if you can't keep your finger on it, it's &gt;60 degrees C, shutdown is around 125 degrees C but at that point it will start smelling like burned plastic. You'll need to add cooling as appropriate or use a low drop regulator.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>imqqmi</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2017 05:13:57 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,782747#msg-782747</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Just a thought. I have tossed the diode in the bin, but now I want to re-instate it because I have replaced the voltage regulator. Would I really need a diode? The only use I see for it is to drop some voltage across it, which is not required now I have an LM7805 in place (can take 35V in).<br />
<br />
Hugo]]></description>
            <dc:creator>HugoW</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:40:37 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,781275#msg-781275</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Yep, that's the one.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>imqqmi</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2017 17:01:06 -0400</pubDate>
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The 3-legged part just above the auxillary power socket, right? <br />
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Hugo<br/>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>HugoW</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2017 08:56:28 -0400</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Great, thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I'll check the item and see what I can do. If the regulator is a replaceble item for me that sounds like a good option. I'll solder the diode back onto the RAMPS if that works.<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
<br />
Hugo]]></description>
            <dc:creator>HugoW</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2017 03:44:14 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Please take a look at the schematic of the arduino atmega2560. There's a 5V regulator MC33269ST-5.0T3 or MC33269D-5.0 (I suspect the same regulator but a different package). <br />
If you put 5V on one of the 5V output you put 5V on the output of the regulator. Since the output of any regulator is low impedance, effectively giving it a short circuit. Hopefully the thermal protection kicks in and it still works. You'll need to unsolder the regulator as well but I suggest you use the pwrin (adapter power input) input instead. Just use a buck converter from 24 to 7 to 12V and all should be ok.<br />
<br />
Another thing you can try if you're feeling adventurous, you could try replacing the MC33269 regulator to one that can take 24V. That would eliminate the need for a step down converter and simplify the design.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>imqqmi</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:33:36 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ No endstops, yet. Only the thermosistor for the hotend, as I would like to read the temperature to check the settings before firing up anything else.<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
<br />
Hugo]]></description>
            <dc:creator>HugoW</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:15:48 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,780977#msg-780977</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ mega normally uses very little current, on its own with no lcd mine uses 0.077amps from USB.  <br />
<br />
Do you have endstop plugged in?  are they in the correct way? (a 3 pin endstop plugged in backwards shorts 5v to gnd)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dust</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 04:00:30 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ 'Unfortunately'  I removed the right one, the one under the stepper motor driver. The one next to the fuses is still in place. If I loaded the Marlin firmware correctly and power everything up, should the LCD read something?<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
<br />
Hugo]]></description>
            <dc:creator>HugoW</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 03:00:29 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,780934#msg-780934</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ There are two diodes<br />
<br />
D1 and D2<br />
<br />
D1 is under the X and Y pololu modules and feeds the mega<br />
D2 is next the the fuses and is reverse polarity protection<br />
<br />
I suspect you removed the wrong diode]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dust</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 18:56:20 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,780880#msg-780880</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hello all,<br />
<br />
I've just wired up my RAMPS 1.4, removed the diode and replaced the fuses with 'normal' ones. I have no stepper motors hooked up yet, the drivers are in place. There is no hot-end or any sensors attached. The MEGA is of course and the LCD with memory card reader is. BTW, I have two off board larger drivers, attached via extension boards. I configured and uploaded the latest Marlin to the MEGA this afternoon.<br />
<br />
If I understand correctly removing the diode means the MEGA does not get any power from the RAMPS anymore, so I hooked up a converter from the 24V to 5V and soldered it to the 5V pin of the MEGA. I powered up the lot without the fuses (so the MEGA didn't get any power) and the converter blew. This is only a 1 dollar item and it didn't look all that sturdy to begin with, so I soldered up an LM7805 regulator and replaced the converter with it. I restarted the lot, this time with the fuses in place. The LCD lit up but only gave little blocks. I touched the LM7805 which was way too hot to touch after only a few seconds and decided to unplug the power... The MEGA is OK, hooked up to the PC via USB (without the RAMPS attached), it works fine. When I test the LM7805 regulator without load it is fine, but I bet the voltage was lower when under load. It was really hot in a few seconds.<br />
<br />
So, what to do? I am going to move the lot to my computer so I can plug the MEGA into the PC via USB and power the RAMPS with the 24V source. That should get me going. But what do I need to power the MEGA from the 24V source? I would think it cannot ask for much current, but it seems it does. Is that normal?<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
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Hugo]]></description>
            <dc:creator>HugoW</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 14:10:14 -0400</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,778373#msg-778373</guid>
            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,778373#msg-778373</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ @legarasta:<br />
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Short answer: Set the voltage to 0.75V<br />
<br />
If you wish to take out the guesswork and calculate the current yourself, download and read the datasheet of the driver IC:<br />
<a href="http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/drv8825.pdf" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">DRV8825 pdf</a><br />
On page 12 you can see how the chopping current is calculated:<br />
<br />
Ichop = V(xref) / ( 5 x Risense )<br />
<br />
Ichop = 0.75 / ( 5 x 0.1 ) = 1.5A (so Vref x 2 is correct in this case)<br />
<br />
Take a peek at your step stick or motor driver board (looking glass/microscope wherever needed) and find the Rsense resistors and read/measure the value (connected to pins 6 and 9). Now you can be certain what it should be set at. Sometimes the Rsense may be different to that of the schematics.<br />
<br />
The driver has a voltage regulator running at 3.3V, which means it doesn't matter what voltage you're using, the reference voltage doesn't scale with the motor input voltage. <br />
<br />
So somehow your potmeter was changed, maybe you bumped it during the refit of the new PSU? It should be 0.75V.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>imqqmi</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:56:05 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,778315#msg-778315</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hello imqqmi. You seem to know what you are talking about. Please chime in on this situation:<br />
<br />
Regarding ONLY stepper motors and the configured Vref for them: i use 12V psu, 1.5A stepper, and VRef is 0.75V - as indicated in the SD8825 drivers manual "The SD8825 uses a 0.10 ohm current sense resistor so current limit can be computed as follows: Current Limit = VREF x 2".<br />
So, i'm "using" the science behind the thing and not that "more or less" approach you read often to configure the VRef.<br />
<br />
I then changed to a 24V psu, and VRef now reads 0,375V (half of the previous value).<br />
<br />
Question: do i need to readjust VRef? Is yes, by how much? <br />
<br />
Thank you so much in advance. o/]]></description>
            <dc:creator>legarasta</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2017 07:56:17 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,667832#msg-667832</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Khaled</strong><br />
Hi,<br />
I know I'm 3 years late with this question but I'd be grateful if you could elaborate a bit on this part of your answer<br />
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Cefiar</strong><br />
You can run the 11A input on 24V and the 5A on 12V if you have either two power supplies or one that produces both voltages. If you are using two power supplies, they will be tied together via the RAMPS board on the ground pin. In 99.9% of cases this should be fine, as long as the PSU have independent grounds (some cheap knock-offs do not). You can also do the reverse if you remove the diode D1, assuming other components are rated appropriately.</div></blockquote>
I do have 2 power supplies and I'm thinking of using the 24V one for the heatedbed. As far as I can understand I should connect the 24V PS to the 11A input of the ramps and the 12V PS to the 5A. What I don't understand is how to tie them together on the RAMPS board on the ground pin.</div></blockquote>
I just Draw a line directly from DC GND out on one PSU and DC GND out on the other PSU. Always worked on every cheap chinese PSU I've ever used.<br />
<br />
I live in the EU though. The US have some strange wiring compared to the rest of the World, so if you are in the US it might be different.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dintid</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2016 02:29:09 -0400</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,667651#msg-667651</guid>
            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,667651#msg-667651</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Khaled</strong><br />
I do have 2 power supplies and I'm thinking of using the 24V one for the heatedbed. As far as I can understand I should connect the 24V PS to the 11A input of the ramps and the 12V PS to the 5A. What I don't understand is how to tie them together on the RAMPS board on the ground pin.</div></blockquote>
If you connect both power supplies, effectively you tie both the 12V psu ground to 24V psu ground through the PCB tracks on the RAMPS. Some cheap and badly designed psu units may not have a properly decoupled ground and will cause a short circuit. It may be prudent to use a resistor between the two grounds without connecting it to anything else and see if it heats up. If one is not decoupled, it poses a danger to yourself too, so take proper precautions of not touching the wires.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>imqqmi</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 13:05:47 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,667581#msg-667581</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hi,<br />
I know I'm 3 years late with this question but I'd be grateful if you could elaborate a bit on this part of your answer<br />
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Cefiar</strong><br />
You can run the 11A input on 24V and the 5A on 12V if you have either two power supplies or one that produces both voltages. If you are using two power supplies, they will be tied together via the RAMPS board on the ground pin. In 99.9% of cases this should be fine, as long as the PSU have independent grounds (some cheap knock-offs do not). You can also do the reverse if you remove the diode D1, assuming other components are rated appropriately.</div></blockquote>
I do have 2 power supplies and I'm thinking of using the 24V one for the heatedbed. As far as I can understand I should connect the 24V PS to the 11A input of the ramps and the 12V PS to the 5A. What I don't understand is how to tie them together on the RAMPS board on the ground pin.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Khaled</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 09:01:47 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,647606#msg-647606</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ You can get a 24v psu and power only the heated bed with it. Check the 11A polyfuse and make sure the maximum current should be limited using the maximum pwm setting if you use a 12V only heated bed. This has worked for me for about a year without any problems.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>imqqmi</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2016 15:17:53 -0400</pubDate>
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            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,647526#msg-647526</guid>
            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,647526#msg-647526</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Sorry for reviving such an old thread, but based on the info here and elsewhere, going to 24v sounds like a hassle. A small boost of 1-2 volts seems like enough for me, but before I commit to buying a variable-output PSU, is there any problem with sending 14 volts through the standard 12v RAMPS setup with absolutely no changes to the printer? Everything in the printer (to my knowledge) is 12v. I figure I've already fried two arduinos, might as well do the smart thing and ask before I do any of this.<br />
<br />
Alternatively, since this thread says that one of the RAMPS inputs is for bed power only, could I use <a href="http://www.amazon.com/SMAKN%C2%AE-voltage-Converter-Adjustable-Step-down/dp/B0171HMB9C" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">this</a> to step down voltage from a 24v psu to 12v for the arduino, hotend, and steppers, and then run direct 24v from the PSU to the bed through the RAMPS board?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>kenblu24</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:58:30 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: 24V with Ramps 1.4 questions</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?219,196602,557245#msg-557245</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Wanted to show my before and after photos of getting my Ramps to run on 24v. (see attached modify-to-24v.jpg)<br />
<br />
I spent a lot of time as I'm not electronical or electrical person, and I honestly just don't understand it when people toss around a lot of technical terms and link to datasheets.<br />
I need to know what to look for specifically and not how to calculate something based on findings I need to find in schematics.<br />
<br />
Check out the "Make-sure-caps-are-35v.jpg" image to see what to check for.<br />
<br />
How I removed D1 - see attached desolder.jpg:<br />
1) Wedged a thin-metal-something under the D1 and the female-plugs where the drivers goes. <br />
2) Turned Ramps over. Solder extra solder-lead on the D1 legs (back-side of Ramps) while using the metal-wedge to tip out the D1.<br />
3) Grab the D1 with a plier and do the same de-soldering on the second leg.<br />
4) Melt the lead and suck it up with a lead-sucker.<br />
<br />
How to remove the Polyfuses:<br />
1) Use a plier or something and grab 1 leg of the Polyfuses.<br />
2) Turn Ramps over. Solder extra solder-lead on the polyfus leg (back side) you have grabbed and pull it out, while applying extra solder-lead.<br />
3) Do the same for all 4 Polyfuse legs.<br />
4) Melt the lead and suck it up with a lead sucker.<br />
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Provide power to Arduino now:<br />
Find a 12v or 5v powersource and provide power to Arduino through the Bullet-plug.<br />
12v works on one of mine just fine, but on the other, the Arduino can't provide 5v through Ramps Aux pins, so had to give it 5v.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>dintid</dc:creator>
            <category>RAMPS Electronics</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:42:12 -0400</pubDate>
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