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        <title>Mendel90 - 3 point leveling system?</title>
        <description> I may need a new heatbed, as mine is so badly warped in the center, that I can print well in the center OR at the edges, but never the same (using a steel ruler, there&#039;s a noticable 0.3-0.5 mm dip in the center.. and that&#039;s with a 2mm glass plate and another 2mm build plate on top of that).
While replacing the bed, has anyone changed to a 3 point leveling system and could point me to some instructions/part lists? I noticed i.e. the MK3 heating beds have a center hole already for 3 point leveling.</description>
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            <title>Re: Mendel90 - 3 point leveling system?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?292,875957,876001#msg-876001</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I have switched to picture clips instead of bulldog clips. They only grip at the edge, so should not be able to bend the glass to conform to the PCB. However I never had a problem with the bulldog clips, they just covered more of the bed.<br />
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I also have a 1mm aluminium sheet between the PCB and the glass to spread the heat but it does slow the heat up process. I don't think it affects flatness because it is more flexible than the glass and probably the PCB.<br />
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There is no gap under a straight edge on my bed. The PCB does curve away from it during warmup and then becomes more flat again giving a wave in the temperature curve but I do warm it to 148C with a 17V PSU for first layer ABS!<br />
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I have wondered about adding a fifth pillar in the center to stop the PCB bowing downwards but it would be difficult to adjust its height and would get hotter than the ones in the corner.<br />
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The only time my Z calibration changes is with a big change in room temperature, which causes the lead screws to expand a bit I think. I have the machine in an unheated internal garage, so it can get quite cold in the winter.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nophead</dc:creator>
            <category>Mendel90</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 06:04:57 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Mendel90 - 3 point leveling system?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The glass by itself is flat. The heatbed is not and is pulling it out of shape.<br />
I checked both with the bed cold and at 60°, same bend in the center.<br />
With the clips removed, the bend is even more pronounced.<br />
Worst part is, it loses leveling over night. Last night, I printed a case and it was beautiful, perfect skirt and first layer, all layers super smooth. Printed the same case with a small adjustment to a hole position this morning, skirt is squished to hell, nozzle is suddenly too close.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Arakon</dc:creator>
            <category>Mendel90</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:34:56 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Mendel90 - 3 point leveling system?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?292,875957,875988#msg-875988</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ So what happens if you turn the glass upside down?<br />
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If you remove the bulldogs clips is is still bent?<br />
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I have never known glass to be permanently bent, although it can be bent slightly with enough force, it always springs flat. My last sheet was probably 5 years old but I recently broke it and replaced it. It was still flat before it broke.<br />
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Are you measuring it when cold or hot? Hot sheets can curve when one side is hotter than the other.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nophead</dc:creator>
            <category>Mendel90</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:50:42 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Mendel90 - 3 point leveling system?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?292,875957,875967#msg-875967</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ That's what I thought too.. maybe because it's still the original glass plate from 6 years ago and only 2mm thick? When I put the ruler across the plate, there's a clear gap in the center.. and printing/leveling also reflects that. Nothing will stick to the center if the corners are leveled properly, but anything printed outside of the center is fine. If I adjust it to be correct around the center, the nozzle is scraping on the build plate around the corners.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Arakon</dc:creator>
            <category>Mendel90</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2020 18:33:38 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Mendel90 - 3 point leveling system?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?292,875957,875965#msg-875965</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Not sure I understand. If the PCB had a 0.5mm dip in the middle why wouldn't the glass still be flat with a gap underneath it? The glass should be stiff enough to remain flat when it is only fastened at the edges.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nophead</dc:creator>
            <category>Mendel90</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2020 18:28:11 -0400</pubDate>
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            <title>Mendel90 - 3 point leveling system?</title>
            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?292,875957,875957#msg-875957</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I may need a new heatbed, as mine is so badly warped in the center, that I can print well in the center OR at the edges, but never the same (using a steel ruler, there's a noticable 0.3-0.5 mm dip in the center.. and that's with a 2mm glass plate and another 2mm build plate on top of that).<br />
While replacing the bed, has anyone changed to a 3 point leveling system and could point me to some instructions/part lists? I noticed i.e. the MK3 heating beds have a center hole already for 3 point leveling.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Arakon</dc:creator>
            <category>Mendel90</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2020 13:21:29 -0400</pubDate>
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