New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 I've released version 1.09a-dc42 at https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/tree/dev/Release. As usual, to download it, follow the link to the version you want and then press the Raw button. The changes since 1.04f are: [quote]Merged in zpl's latest changes to Network and Print Monitor modules. DHCP and Netbios names are now supported (thanks RRP/zpl) Added command M999 S4321 to unlock flash memory, reset and boot to BOSSA port Z dive height is now relative to Z probe trigger height and the default is reduced to 3mm. As before, you can use the M558 H parameter to adjust it. Added experimental support for an acoustic Z probe for delta printers (Z probe type 5) Bug fix: when using a simple modulated IR probe, very high readings were occasionally read (this fix was in 1.04g which I didn't officially release) Bug fix: the firmware once again prevents Z homing before X and Y are homed, if the Z probe is used for Z homing Various code tidying [/quote] When I have time, I'll create a document describing the differences between RRP 1.09 and my 1.09; but for now the main additions to my fork that I can think of are: - Precise stepper motor pulse timing and acceleration limits, which some users have reported as sounding smoother and quieter - Support for other printer architectures (Delta, CoreXY, CoreXZ, CoreYZ) - Support for simultaneous XY homing on Cartesian printers - Support for swapping thermistor channels over - Configurable Z dive height - M999 S4321 command, which avoids the need to access the Erase button If you are switching from my 1.04 series firmware to my 1.09a version on a non-delta printer, you should not need to change any homing files or config.g. The recommended web interface is still DuetWebControl 1.06. If you are switching from RRP 1.09 to my 1.09a on a Ormerod 1, then you need to add this line to config.g to tell it that the Y endstop is at the high end: M574 X0 Y2 Z0 S1 You can either keep your existing homing files, or switch to mine to get simultaneous XY homing. https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,510143#msg-510143 Thu, 16 Jul 2026 10:43:17 -0400 Phorum 5.2.23 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521752#msg-521752 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521752#msg-521752
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Are you talking about finding the right settings and lost time through failed prints?

No .... 2 days just for waiting the slicing!
Try a statue 350mm. taller with a high definition.... and take a break at sea!

Dario

Slic3r will take ridiculously long to slice if you tick the "avoid crossing perimeters" box. Leave that unticked and the time becomes sensible even for large models.

Dave]]> dmould Ormerod Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:23:43 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521550#msg-521550 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521550#msg-521550
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If you go higher with the M566 X and Y values can you get other problems - undershoot? or actually break something ::o

If you go too high with the M566 values you will eventually start getting missed steps. You will probably hear that something is not right if this happens.]]> dc42 Ormerod Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:48:46 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521549#msg-521549 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521549#msg-521549
Thanks again btw, as I said better prints are just a bonus to the fast homing, got real tiring waiting for it, especially when I forgot and left a homing action in the g code so it did it twice.

Forgot to say I did a test print at 100% and the ones in the pic are at 150%, no discernible difference.

Also with the newer firmware when it did the small moves the motor sounds stayed constant whereas with the older ones it sounded strained as I guess it was slowing down.]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:45:51 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521545#msg-521545 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521545#msg-521545 dc42 Ormerod Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:33:50 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521542#msg-521542 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521542#msg-521542
The creases in the "wood" are about 1mm max at the edges, with the previous 1.09a you can see buildup and glitches the new one on the right is considerably better.

[www.dropbox.com]]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:24:44 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521278#msg-521278 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521278#msg-521278
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Hi Erik,
if I remember correctly the taller-one! the strongest! Ormerod

Hi Dario

Not necessarily, not if the smaller one is named David and got a slingshot :-)

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I never understand why you open with "The Stupidly Tall-merod"

I did not name the tread, "static65" did that, I'm all for expanding the printer in any way possible, Ormerod to the Mooon! :-)

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I's a good opportunity to print models so high...:)o

Yes I could do with a bit more hight as you can see from this horror print where I, on the fly while printing, had to loosen the screws and carefully lift the upper z what-ever-its-called thingie to finish the print - and still it left the poor girl with a solid dent in the upper command center

[attachment 56466 tothemax.JPG]
[attachment 56467 tothemax2.JPG]
[attachment 56468 tothemax1.JPG]

Erik]]> ormerod168 Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:04:42 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521263#msg-521263 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521263#msg-521263 if I remember correctly the taller-one! the strongest! Ormerod
I never understand why you open with "The Stupidly Tall-merod"
It's a good opportunity to print models so high...:)o

unfortunately I have no other space available..... for a delta too
[3dprinterplans.info]
The new firmware it's OK for Delta too.


Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:14:42 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521252#msg-521252 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521252#msg-521252
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..Did you add a stronger better brace to connect the Z to the Y axis?...

Not my printers, saved the pictures from The Stupidly Tall-merod tread:

[forums.reprap.org]

..my two printers still have the stock Z-axis hight but yes I did secure the connection between those axis on both, pulling the extrusions tight together with a 4mm screw, changed the z-foot for an aluminium one and added a "set square plate" in between the two extrusions

[attachment 56463 OrmerodBigfoot.JPG]
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Erik]]> ormerod168 Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:49:28 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521210#msg-521210 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521210#msg-521210 Firefox3D Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 14:07:25 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521205#msg-521205 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521205#msg-521205
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Dario, you could try doubling the M556 X and Y parameters to 1200 to start with.

M556 S78 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your axis compensation here
M566 X1800 Y1800 Z30 E20 ; Minimum speeds mm/minute

just not to confuse

Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:53:14 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521195#msg-521195 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521195#msg-521195
That new firmware and the increase in the M566 has produced a much crisper print for me, thanks Dave.

Jon]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:14:42 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521143#msg-521143 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521143#msg-521143
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Hi Dario,

1. After some more testing, I've now increased the defaults to X1800 Y1800.

2. I found a bug in the Move code that causes the printer to slow down more than necessary sometimes. It's fixed in the 1.09b release candidate, which you can get at [dl.dropboxusercontent.com].

As usual thanks a lot!

Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:35:34 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521088#msg-521088 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521088#msg-521088
1. After some more testing, I've now increased the defaults to X1800 Y1800.

2. I found a bug in the Move code that causes the printer to slow down more than necessary sometimes. It's fixed in the 1.09b release candidate, which you can get at [dl.dropboxusercontent.com].]]> dc42 Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:57:52 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521067#msg-521067 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,521067#msg-521067
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Dario, you could try doubling the M556 X and Y parameters to 1200 to start with.

Hi dc42,
I'm testing....M566 X1200 Y1200 Z30 E20

Thanks
Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:52:35 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520967#msg-520967 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520967#msg-520967 dc42 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 19:41:47 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520882#msg-520882 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520882#msg-520882
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Hi dc42,
too many quality problems ... back to previous It seems much better.

Hi Dario, what quality problems are you seeing?

I have had a number of users saying that print quality is better using my 1.00 and later firmware, compared to RRP, zpl, and my pre-1.0 series. I have also had some reports that my later versions slow down more when changing direction by less than 90 degrees. This is entirely possible, because my 1.00 and later firmware honours the settings for maximum instantaneous X and Y speed change when changing direction, but the other builds do not.

If you think that slowing down more when changing direction is affecting print quality, then you can always increase the allowed instantaneous X and Y speed change, using the M566 command. In my fork, these do not affect the minimum printing speed.

Hi dc42,
my config is M566 X600 Y600 Z30 E20
this is correct?
I'm printing this model for testing [www.thingiverse.com]
[www.dropbox.com] (previous print)
With your last I got this print correctly [www.dropbox.com]

I'll post some...

today i have Ormerod 187, bamboo and 2 color with 1.08b-zpl (2015-03-24) the last reprinted black with 1.09a-dc42 (2015-05-17) and the orange with 0.78k-dc42

Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:24:28 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520871#msg-520871 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520871#msg-520871
**edit** might be the current filament I am using, just trying something else and this stuff is "stringy"

But can you still suggest a ballpark change to the M556 line?

Thanks

Jon]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:46:01 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520859#msg-520859 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520859#msg-520859
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Yes sorry for derailing, I just wanted to to know exactly how the print quality differs with the newer firmware.

Dario, is the Z support print with the standard 0.5mm head and speed settings?



with the new firmware probably I have to change some settings.... movements and speed seem different ....
I got good print with 1.08b-zpl too...I did not yet understand exactly what has changed
back to previous the printers are working fine...
for the Z support ...yes ...0,5 standard speed (50% of the speed on the first layer only)

Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:30:01 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520858#msg-520858 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520858#msg-520858
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Hi dc42,
too many quality problems ... back to previous It seems much better.

Hi Dario, what quality problems are you seeing?

I have had a number of users saying that print quality is better using my 1.00 and later firmware, compared to RRP, zpl, and my pre-1.0 series. I have also had some reports that my later versions slow down more when changing direction by less than 90 degrees. This is entirely possible, because my 1.00 and later firmware honours the settings for maximum instantaneous X and Y speed change when changing direction, but the other builds do not.

If you think that slowing down more when changing direction is affecting print quality, then you can always increase the allowed instantaneous X and Y speed change, using the M566 command. In my fork, these do not affect the minimum printing speed.]]> dc42 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:28:02 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520848#msg-520848 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520848#msg-520848
Dario, is the Z support print with the standard 0.5mm head and speed settings?]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:09:51 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520842#msg-520842 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520842#msg-520842
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I'm not saying the support structure is perfect and haven't tried Simplify3D, I was just trying to understand how complex the model was for it to take 2 days to process, what PC processor are you using, I have an older dual core overclocked equivalent to around a 3.2Ghz intel i3

I have used Slic3r 1.1.7, 1.2.7 and have just downloaded 1.2.8, don't think they have changed anything to do with support structure recently though.

The picture of the Z support in black does look very good, is that with the earlier firmware and do you have a pic of what it looks like with 1.09a or any other comparison pics of print quality vs 0.78?

Sorry I can not show the model..... and I'm using corei7
The picture of the Z support in black is done with 078k-dc42 firmware and it's not perfect.... but it's OK.
I'll post some for comparison....

Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:02:28 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520832#msg-520832 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520832#msg-520832
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same ,i have never had a slice take more then 2min with slic3r 1.2.7

out of topic ... I'm sorry dc42
[www.youtube.com]

Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:35:05 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520826#msg-520826 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520826#msg-520826
I have used Slic3r 1.1.7, 1.2.7 and have just downloaded 1.2.8, don't think they have changed anything to do with support structure recently though.

The picture of the Z support in black does look very good, is that with the earlier firmware and do you have a pic of what it looks like with 1.09a or any other comparison pics of print quality vs 0.78?]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:27:55 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520821#msg-520821 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520821#msg-520821 Darathy Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:21:23 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520818#msg-520818 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520818#msg-520818
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Really?

Must be some kind of bottleneck in the software processing for it to take that long. I have loaded some fairly complex models and slicing has taken no more than a minute with support structure. Do you have any idea how many triangles are in the file that makes the STL or OBJ?


Really????
slic3r is making good support structure?
and fast.....
I'm very excited which version?]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:18:49 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520814#msg-520814 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520814#msg-520814
Must be some kind of bottleneck in the software processing for it to take that long. I have loaded some fairly complex models and slicing has taken no more than a minute with support structure. Do you have any idea how many triangles are in the file that makes the STL or OBJ?]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:03:13 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520808#msg-520808 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520808#msg-520808
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Are you talking about finding the right settings and lost time through failed prints?

No .... 2 days just for waiting the slicing!
Try a statue 350mm. taller with a high definition.... and take a break at sea!

Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:52:50 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520807#msg-520807 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520807#msg-520807 Firefox3D Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:43:27 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520806#msg-520806 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520806#msg-520806
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Hi Dario,

What differences are you seeing in print quality?

Also out of interest does Simplify3D give better quality?

Thanks

Jon

Hi Jon,
a fairly good quality in my opinion (90% only) [www.dropbox.com]
done with slic3r and 0.78k-dc42 web control 0.95
Simplify3D is absolutely necessary with large prints and printed that require support.
With a large model I lost 2 days with slic3r and 20 min. with Simplify3d! ( with the same PC)... an another40 min. with Slic3r 40 sec. with Simplify3D.
8-)
Dario]]> Ormerod187 Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:39:03 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520798#msg-520798 Re: New experimental firmware 1.09a-dc42 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?340,510143,520798#msg-520798
What differences are you seeing in print quality?

Also out of interest does Simplify3D give better quality?

Thanks

Jon]]> Firefox3D Ormerod Fri, 12 Jun 2015 12:57:36 -0400