This a complete Assembled Generation 3 Electronics Kit for RepRap which has: 1 Mainboard Ver 1.2 1 Extruder Controller Ver 2.2 3 Stepper Motor Controllers Ver 2.3 3 Opto-End Stops 1 USB-TTL Adapter 1 Universal 12v 5A Power Supply 1 Cable Kit These boards have been modified from the Makerbot version to be just for the RepRap and have been reduced in physical size.Please look at the individual posts for each to see the changes or email me for more information. I prefer payment through PayPal. Please contact me at kymberlyaandrus(at)yahoo.com for questions, and shipping information. https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,34719#msg-34719 Sun, 08 Mar 2026 22:32:16 -0400 Phorum 5.2.23 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,41512#msg-41512 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,41512#msg-41512
I'll confess I did have a bit of fun with him in his blog. "Dead End Derivatives" and all that. :P
[blog.makerbot.com]

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Erik, next time, please remember, we have to always assume good will on the part of the fellow users. It's most helpful to just show our new colleagues how to upload and contribute rather than getting confrontational or worse, using the language, "MakerBot's electronics", and cognitive frame [en.wikipedia.org] of someone who attempts to be in an antagonistic relationship with us.

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At Kymberly's request, I'm locking the thread.]]> SebastienBailard For Sale Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:55:08 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40882#msg-40882 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40882#msg-40882 EDIT: I realise that the existing ones would fit, but I'd like one that is more space efficient since these are smaller.]]> Azdle For Sale Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:17:28 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40801#msg-40801 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40801#msg-40801
Good service. And fast email response.

Tian Chang]]> TianChang For Sale Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:24:45 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40766#msg-40766 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40766#msg-40766
I noticed the files are up. Most of them. :D Could you ping me with a list of the filenames that didn't work? Vanilla mediawiki is locked down a bit, for very good technical reasons. But I now need to open it up a bit.

I spent a little while just now tidying up the page and crosslinking it with other wiki pages, most significantly, the original gen 3 electronics pages. Me and other Library staff and volunteers actually need to clean those up as there's some cruft from the twiki->mediawiki transition we just did.

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Bre's blog post and comments were pretty serious - basically, a public (and false) accusation of GPL violation in the open source world is like a public (and false) accusation of plagiarism in academia. (I'm assuming that you and 99.5% of everyone else here already knows what the GPL is and loves it, because we're all RepRap user-developers here.)

I chose to put on my official RepRap core-dev hat and respond. At the same time, everyone has already said everything that needs to be said; I don't know if it is worth your time to respond.

Happily, you'll be pretty unaffected by this; most people will end up seeing you as the wounded party and that will be the end of it. Although I'm hoping you'll get more orders out of it. :)

I don't think the greater community is going to jump on Bre or that a flame war will take out his blog, but he's used up a bit of good will. I imagine he'll be a lot more polite and circumspect from now on. Blogs and twitter feeds are great for web 2.0-type marketing; they're not very useful for public (and false) accusations of wrongdoing.

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Returning to the subject of documentation, sales and support: Kymberly, if it's ok, I'd like to lock this thread within a day or two. People who come in wanting to buy boards can do so in a new thread created by you. They shouldn't have to wade through all this stuff.

Please let me know if it's ok.

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Also, Kymberly, everyone else reading, let me know if you're planning on doing Bay Area Maker Faire:
[forums.reprap.org]
(It doesn't have anything to do with the Gen3-Tech_Zone_Remix boards, but I'm trying to see how many people we can get out there.)]]> SebastienBailard For Sale Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:55:18 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40752#msg-40752 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40752#msg-40752
I guess that now I am caught up and done dealing with a very hectic week, it is time to make some sort of response.

The files are posted, along with much better description on the RepRap Wiki, they can be found here: [reprap.org] however, I was not able to upload my original "source files" or an editable vector that is in Corel Draw format, since the file upload doesn't seem to allow me to upload .zip or unknown file types.... I'll work on that.

I also posted the files which contain the pin outs used for connecting this stuff all together, so if you are needing those, please check it out there.

I would love it if those of you who have received your electronics from us would go there and share your experiences/innovations (I made a section at the bottom of the page for that purpose).

I am not in the least offended at Bre's comments, since I haven't read them. I am not sure if I am going to read them; maybe in a week or two, I have other projects I am working furiously on. Like a web site, better documentation, additional parts... stuff like that.

I do appreciate all the support and positive comments I have received from everyone. It has been a generally positive experience to find that the community is concerned about a member being offended.]]> kymberlyaandrus For Sale Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:52:27 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40750#msg-40750 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40750#msg-40750
I have virtually no experience with electronics and wanted a 'turnkey' solution. I was told that the MakerBot electronics with some modifications were the way to go. I was once again disappointed to see that MBI was out of stock on what I needed (a good problem for them to have though). So back to square one. Then I came across this post and ordered a set. *bonus* - no mods for the mendel were required and the boards are tiny enough to arrange in a variety of ways.

I found Kymberly and her husband to be very knowledgeable and professional to deal with the whole way. In talking to them I learned that they designed their own boards based on Zach's design for their own RepRap needs (they have the background for this)...They had to order multiple PCBs as a min order and easily sold the extras (and some other batches because of the high demand).

I'm happy to say that I successfully hooked up everything and had my first extrusions last Thursday - still tweaking software to get good prints but thats not due to electronics.

Honestly, I'm not interested in the core argument here about the files/rights/etc. They said they'd put them up and I believe they will. I know from talking to them that the demand hit them by surprise and they were working furiously to keep up with that and people like me bugging them...and I later learned they were doing this while expecting a new baby who was born a couple of weeks ago (congrats!).

At the end of the day I'm just a guy that wanted to get up and running quickly and this was a GREAT option for me.

I have much respect for MakerBot (and especially Bre for all the MakeZine stuff - love that mag) and am not looking to stir anything up. However, I feel like the recent comments in this post might hurt their efforts/image and I just wanted to speak up on behalf of Kymberly and her husband.

Bottom line: If you're reading this and are on the fence about making this purchase I would say to you, "Go for it!".]]> tboneATL For Sale Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:35:25 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40665#msg-40665 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40665#msg-40665 blog.makerbot.com]


Hopefully this is just another little storm in a teacup but everyone should use this as a learning experience. I see the original situation as someone wanting to do the right thing, being a little unsure of how to do it but trying their best … then Bre comes along and stirs things up.

I was in a similar situation a while ago and also got “jumped on” for my troubles so I can understand how it feels. I took it as “thats what you get for dealing with people over the internet. Everyone assumes you have the same/more experience with these things as they do and don’t give you the benefit of thinking your problem is just ignorance, not malice”.

On behalf of the Reprap community I’d like to extend the hand of friendship to Kimberly and say “Sorry, we’re only human.”

Bre, maybe a better way of handling things next time would be to contact the person via a quick email and see what the problem with releasing the source is. I’m sure you’ve got a big enough name that if it is just ignorance on how to go about it, they would jump at the chance of an offer to mentor them in some small way. You are not just a nameless somebody on the other side of a computer, your words have power. Please try and use it to build people up.

So, everybody just kiss and make up already!]]> reece.arnott For Sale Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:14:23 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40598#msg-40598 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40598#msg-40598 RepRap electronics boards. From a long and celebrated ancestry: "The Gen 1 RepRap electronics boards begat the Gen 2 RepRap electronics boards which begat the Gen 3 RepRap electronics boards, and so forth."

And Kimberly is uploading the files as we speak. (Technically, Saturdayish.)

So, I'm not sure what the problem is. Unless it is that some folk find the wiki to be a tiny bit difficult to use for the first few minutes. :)

Frankly, *putting on my official RepRap hat* I'm perfectly happy with people monetizing RepRap, and forking it. As both Bre and Kimberly are doing.

I rather wish more folk would fork parts of RepRap straight back into the RepRap wiki, as Kimberly is doing, and as some folk choose not to do, but I can't exactly mandate that. (GPL and all that. (:D "You can fork stuff, but the forkee can't be an utter control freak and demand that you use the forkee's docs and files archive." This may be a pity, it may not. Probably not.)

And if I have to think about what's more ethical, compassionate, or just polite, and I have to compare folk not uploading changes to RepRap wiki at all and folk doing so, but taking a few days to get around to it, well, I'm more in favor of the latter. It's much more useful and helpful to us.

I feel as though I should be writing a longish tutorial on how to use the RepRap wiki here, but 1) it may be off topic, and 2) it's easy. Just log in and click 'edit'. :)]]> SebastienBailard For Sale Fri, 26 Mar 2010 05:52:41 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40584#msg-40584 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40584#msg-40584 jbayless For Sale Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:49:09 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40530#msg-40530 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40530#msg-40530 -------------------------------------------------------
> No worries, casahino.
>
> The wiki page is here, currently "under
> construction":
> [reprap.org]
> ch_Zone_Remix

And at the same time, Makerbot as just the only source for electronics was a BIG problem for RepRap in general, so I think any new "players" on market is good for RepRap users. I mean, the work of Kimberly is important BUT ALSO the source files.]]> casainho For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:29:11 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40529#msg-40529 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40529#msg-40529
The wiki page is here, currently "under construction":
[reprap.org]]]> SebastienBailard For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:25:36 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40527#msg-40527 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40527#msg-40527 casainho For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:16:26 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40524#msg-40524 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40524#msg-40524
Hopefully this hasn't upset Kym to much. It's hard to not take something like that personally. I doubt it was personal, just someone wanting to vent. It happens a lot in all communities and hopefully we just move on; as a community.

Now kiss and make up :)-D]]> bfleming For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:10:21 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40523#msg-40523 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40523#msg-40523 I've responded to this forum post in a blogpost on the MakerBot blog.

I'm rather annoyed by your behavior just now, Bre. In an open source community like ours, it is extremely inappropriate to call out one of our fellow RepRap user-developers for wrongful behavior without a doing a bit of investigation to make sure you have your facts right. If your first step is to tack up a nasty note on your blog, well ...

In truth:

Kimberly is working with me to get all of those files up into the RepRap wiki.

I think the sticking point was that she believed that since she was using a non-open-source electronics 'FooECAD' (or similar), the native .fooecad files would be useless to us. So she offered what she thought was the best alternative, the .pdf files she could make for us. In the spirit of fair dealing and all that.

Now, after a bit of discussion, we're all clear that we should have all the files up in the RepRap wiki, even the the .fooecad ones.

Bre, in the future, please don't accuse people of acting wrongly without doing a bit of investigation. It's unethical, frankly.]]> SebastienBailard For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:53:45 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40519#msg-40519 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40519#msg-40519 Rashad Glover For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:23:56 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40493#msg-40493 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40493#msg-40493 blog.makerbot.com]]]> Bre For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:20:22 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40462#msg-40462 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40462#msg-40462
Kimberly, just make sure you post your native design files too. It doesn't matter whether ANYONE can open them. In that case the PDFs are a support for them. If you offer both I guess you comply with the moral and legal obligations of open source.]]> ErikDeBruijn For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:29:23 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40456#msg-40456 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40456#msg-40456
Try cutting and pasting the source from:
[reprap.org]]]> SebastienBailard For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:34:49 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40455#msg-40455 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40455#msg-40455
I sent you an email with those documents. I am working on getting the documents set up in the wiki as recommended by Sebastien, but I am fairly busy and terribly unfamiliar with the wiki template. I am sending some questions to Sebastien that will hopefully solve some of my current hurdles.]]> kymberlyaandrus For Sale Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:24:10 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40411#msg-40411 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40411#msg-40411 Can you post the
>"blown up view" with parts labeled for their locations

I got your boards and they look great but as you point out there is no room for documentation. My question is about the polarity of the opto end stop connections (both the motor controller side and the sensor side) and the pinouts on the extruder controller. The other boards were hand labeled but the extruder controller was not.

Many thanks
Charles]]> cwho For Sale Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:49:22 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40280#msg-40280 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40280#msg-40280 By the way, "Open Source" is usually used in reference to one of several licensing methods for software sharing, I think the physical portions of this project actually fall under a phrase of "Creative Commons" but I am not knowledgeable about this. I do know that most of the different licensing methods out there allow for different types of uses and obligations regarding further development. Does anyone know where the RepRap project actually falls - from a Legal Point of view?

GPL. (GPL 3, when we remember to be specific.) More generally, people are welcome to upload their work to the wiki in whatever license they choose. (In the case of specific projects, derivative work N+1 has to have a license compatible with work N, so GPL3->GPL3 in this case.)

Aside from specific scenarios Ann and Bob sorting out what tool/license they're using, tool/license arguments are very boring in the abstract.

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No one seems to be really arguing about anything here, which is good.

Kimberly, would you like to tack up your stuff here
[reprap.org]
or
[reprap.org]
?

Also, what's your tool for creating the pdfs? (You're welcome to upload foo.adobe_illustrator type files as well.)]]> SebastienBailard For Sale Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:51:29 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40275#msg-40275 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40275#msg-40275
I can provide the drawings as pdf's, since that is the only method of exporting them from my software. I can provide a pdf for each "layer" of a gerber file. If you are using a full version of adobe, it even makes them editable. When I say that the program I use is proprietary, I mean it. I have no way to export a gerber or any other form of useful file format, I simply modify my drawings and upload the specs to my pcb manufacturer.

The boards I manufacture and assemble are completely the same circuit as the makerbot, whether the trace "looks" the same or not; does not change what it is. That would be like saying a change of font to a document was a substantial change to the document... Or claiming that translating it to a different language made it a different literary work... that just isn't the case. I am happy to share what I have, I am happy to allow others to take and build upon it. But for you to demand that it be provided in a specific format... is a bit absurd.

I have done the same thing that anyone who wants to is allowed to do with these files, and I am not asking to keep them to myself, in fact, I have offered to share them. Where do you want them sent? do you want all the possible "layers" or do you just want some of them. Many PCB manufacuturers will produce a board from a pdf, since it is a vector based file and can be converted (using the right tools) into a gerber. Also, if you are attempting to make your own boards at home, it is easier from a PDF since they are to scale and can be used directly for transferring, or making a screen.

As I have looked at other "Open source" electronics projects, many of them provide nothing more than a jpeg image (not even vector based, but rather bitmap based). I am not offering something strange, or limited here, I just don't use the Eagle program (it isn't open source either). At first as I started to do this, I tried to find a good way to import those into my PCB' manufacturers connection, but when that failed and I realized I was going to have to re-draw the circuit, I just removed empty space from the board while I was at it--- that is the primary difference, then I changed a few components for different packages, which were more available to me. I have shared my BOM with others for that, as they have requested it, and extend that offer to anyone who would like it.

I appreciate your concern, I think it would be a shame if someone tried to "close this down" and monopolize it. I hope I have made my position more clear, and I hope that you understand - I am offering to continue sharing what I have, and what I have done.

"Source Code" in reference to a physical object... interesting. Who are you to say that a PDF representation is inadequate? maybe the Eagle representation is inadequate... (It didn't work for me, so I did something with what was provided, to have something which is useful to me). Is there a standard of how "Open Source" physical objects should be shared? Can you direct me to better information on this?

By the way, "Open Source" is usually used in reference to one of several licensing methods for software sharing, I think the physical portions of this project actually fall under a phrase of "Creative Commons" but I am not knowledgeable about this. I do know that most of the different licensing methods out there allow for different types of uses and obligations regarding further development. Does anyone know where the RepRap project actually falls - from a Legal Point of view?

thanks,
Kimberly]]> kymberlyaandrus For Sale Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:02:08 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40273#msg-40273 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40273#msg-40273 spacexula For Sale Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:32:59 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40263#msg-40263 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40263#msg-40263 "My intent is to provide this as a kit eventually; so, YES I will provide files, BUT they are not the same as the other files that have been previously provided (I don't use Eagle, I use a proprietary software... so you won't get the pcb layout file... but, I will provide a color PDF of it)"

You're saying it's based on the Makerbot electronics. This puts you not only in the moral obligation to share the source code (not the PDF, just as binaries wouldn't count), it also puts you in the legal position. The intellectual property rights of the Makerbot are used to require you to keep it open. What you are doing now is taking something that is open, distribute it and keep it closed. If it's for your own use (no distribution) then the open source licenses don't require you to publish code, but now it does.

If it's in a proprietary package, there are still files. They might not be useful to all, but that's an entirely different matter. Gerber files might also be a good output format for others to work with, though it's a bit like STL, not suitable for editing, but everybody can use it 'as is'.]]> ErikDeBruijn For Sale Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:47:03 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40047#msg-40047 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,40047#msg-40047
to connect the blue and white connectors, I usually just use a small flat blade screwdriver. It is a good idea to test the cables with a multimeter afterward... to make sure they will work.]]> kymberlyaandrus For Sale Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:33:37 -0400 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38840#msg-38840 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38840#msg-38840 kymberlyaandrus For Sale Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:24:51 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38824#msg-38824 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38824#msg-38824
[imaketherobot.blogspot.com]]]> spacexula For Sale Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:52:42 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38819#msg-38819 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38819#msg-38819 Tonokip For Sale Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:14:27 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38283#msg-38283 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38283#msg-38283
We have relisted on ebay for those who prefer to buy through ebay.

We listed two ways;

1. With power supply link

2. Without power supply link]]> kymberlyaandrus For Sale Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:36:29 -0500 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38093#msg-38093 https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?94,34719,38093#msg-38093 Azdle For Sale Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:52:23 -0500