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Nema 17 wires dont match...

Posted by rajien2 
Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 20, 2013 10:11PM
Im having issues with wiring my Nema 17s, I have the ramps 1.4. The issues is im just guessing at the connections and im worried im gonna blow somthing...

Im told the moter is

PIN1= B- Orange
PIN2= B COMMON NO WIRE
PIN3= B Blue
PIN4= A Red
PIN5= A COMMON NO Wire
PIN6= A- Yellow

My ramps says

2B
2A
1A
1B

Please any help on getting the right connection would be great here.

Thanks
Rajien
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 20, 2013 10:19PM
is there a model number on the stepper motor?




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Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 20, 2013 10:22PM
yeah somthing like

Type 17PM-J034-P2VS
Minebea Co. LTD.
Part# FH5-1043
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 20, 2013 10:24PM
here is the ebay link with pic if it helps

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Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 20, 2013 10:33PM
looks like you'll have to get the multimeter out and check for continuity between pairs of wire , there isn't much as far as a datasheet for them




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Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...)
March 20, 2013 11:29PM
Six wire steppers are compatible with four wire drivers. Bipolar (four wire) drivers function in two phases. One wire is connected to another wire, and the other two are connected to the other phase (coil). If you have a multimeter, measure the resistance between two wires. If the resistance is infinite, that means the two wires are not connected inside the motor.

Don't be confused with the whole color coding thing. Just connect the wires in the same order as they are in the motor to the ramps board.
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...)
March 20, 2013 11:52PM
So, 6 wires mean hybrid or unipolar. If it is hybrid, it will work in a 4 wire mode, but possible loose some strength (i'm not sure) I am sure you can be able to get away with pings 2-5 only, but at half or weaker strength.
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...)
March 21, 2013 05:35AM
Simba Wrote:
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> So, 6 wires mean hybrid or unipolar. If it is
> hybrid, it will work in a 4 wire mode, but
> possible loose some strength (i'm not sure) I am
> sure you can be able to get away with pings 2-5
> only, but at half or weaker strength.

Using it in 4 wire mode actually offers far superior performance because all the coils are activated fully rather than half of the coil. I believe the 6 wire set up is available because the control circuitry is simpler - the motor can be controlled without reversing the current.
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 21, 2013 05:51AM
rajien2 Wrote:
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> Im having issues with wiring my Nema 17s, I have
> the ramps 1.4. The issues is im just guessing at
> the connections and im worried im gonna blow
> somthing...
>
>
> Please any help on getting the right connection
> would be great here.
>
> Thanks
> Rajien

Hi rajien2,

Not sure if you have seen this page but I think everything you need to know will be here on the raprap site.

link


Cheers
Jan
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 21, 2013 10:25PM
Okay well hooking it up correctly It becomes kinda hard to turn but when you tell it to go a direction nothing happens... How ever if you hook both A+ and B+ to a single coil if becomes nearly impossible to turn and when you tell it to turn a direction it jumps around randomly.... How can I rule out a Ramps board hardware or software issue... I think the stepper is fine, how ever If not im okay buying new steppers i just want to make sure its not a ramps issue... What voltage should I be getting out of the ramps??

Thanks for all of your help thus far!
Cody

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2013 10:25PM by rajien2.
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 21, 2013 10:30PM
Also not wiring the stops would not cause this issue would it?
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...)
March 21, 2013 10:39PM
For fucks sakes..... Really Just wiring them up like they are already worked... WTF I spent the last 7 hours matching wires and I never found that pattern!! thanks man... Now I just need to figure out why I can only go + not - but that should be easy

Thanks again everone!!!


ohioplastics Wrote:
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> Six wire steppers are compatible with four wire
> drivers. Bipolar (four wire) drivers function in
> two phases. One wire is connected to another wire,
> and the other two are connected to the other phase
> (coil). If you have a multimeter, measure the
> resistance between two wires. If the resistance is
> infinite, that means the two wires are not
> connected inside the motor.
>
> Don't be confused with the whole color coding
> thing. Just connect the wires in the same order as
> they are in the motor to the ramps board.
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 21, 2013 11:11PM
Anyone else who is having issues getting reprap to move the other way check your end stops smiling smiley
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...)
March 25, 2014 10:23PM
Hey all,
I am trying to figure this out right now. First build, Prusa i3.

My NEMA 17s have 6 wires (all the same color except commons). By manufacturer diagram, I see that..
Pin 1 is B-
Pin 3 is B
Pin 4 is A
Pin 6 is A-

How do these correspond to the RAMPS board pins, which show left-to-right order of 2B 2A 1A 1B?

Possibility 1) For instance, does 2B correspond to B-?

Possibility 2) Or do I just go in order as rajien2 suggests (pin 1 with 2B, pin 3 with 2A, etc.)?

@rajien2 If you see this and my guess is correct, what you did was 'option 2,' right???

Please forgive my ignorance and Thank You All.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2014 10:26PM by drastic00.
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 25, 2014 10:59PM
A's goto A's 2 being "-" same with B's
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
March 27, 2014 01:49AM
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cat.farmer
A's goto A's 2 being "-" same with B's

Thank you very much. Someday I will understand the difference in A and A- grinning smiley
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
September 17, 2014 03:09AM
my nema17 has 6 wires 4 blue 2 brown how do i wire it up to my ramps 1.4? help please
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
September 17, 2014 03:51AM
hello, my motor had the same a/b set-up

Pin 1 is B- A1
Pin 3 is B B1
Pin 4 is A A2
Pin 6 is A- B2

it worked for me.

looking from the first wire it went like this

First and third for A1 and A2
second and fourth B1 and B2
Re: Nema 17 wires dont match...
September 17, 2014 05:36AM
Quote
Rego
my nema17 has 6 wires 4 blue 2 brown how do i wire it up to my ramps 1.4? help please

See [www.reprap.org]


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