Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 05, 2013 09:58PM |
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vegasloki's point was that GPL places restrictions specifically on distribution. He's right. You're free to download GPL code, modify it and not open source the code. You can use the modified code (in any way that does not entail distribution) all you want without having to open source it. But once you start distributing the software, you must open source. This, straight from the GPL v3 license:
"if you distribute copies of such a program, whether
gratis or for a fee, you must pass on to the recipients the same
freedoms that you received. You must make sure that they, too, receive
or can get the source code."
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 06, 2013 10:57AM |
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You can't just throw stuff out into the wild under an open source license and hope someone pays you someday.
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 07, 2013 02:00AM |
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The Fair Share Program is a method of giving back to the Open Source Community in a simple, uncomplicated fashion. The idea is to voluntarily give 5% of the profits back to the community as a whole. Fair Share is based on the honor system that gives the choice of how to give back to the community. Find a worthy Open Source organization or just help move a project along through a financial contribution. The choice is yours.
When you see the Fair Share Program Logo on websites and literature, you will know that they are a contributor to the success of the Open Source Community through voluntary financial contributions to the Open Source Projects of their choice.
Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 07, 2013 03:27AM |
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> They are enforceable only if the owner of the IP
> has the means to pursue an infringement claim.
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 07, 2013 07:55PM |
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It's called the Fair Share Program and it appears it's meant for the suppliers and manufacturers of Open Hardware to contribute 5% of the proceeds back into the community.
Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 08, 2013 01:35PM |
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My purpose in this post is to say why RepRap is, and always will be, Open Source.
Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 08, 2013 03:54PM |
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RepRap developers retain the copyright in their own developments, and may wish to enforce licencing with more rigour than I. Go to it, I say.
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TAPR has deprecated the Noncommercial Hardware License ("NCL") and recommends against its use in new projects.
Experience has shown that the NCL does not provide the benefits it was intended to. The TAPR Open Hardware License ("OHL") is identical to the NCL but does not place any limitation on commercial use of OHL designs. We encourage you to use the Open Hardware License, as it more closely follows the Open Source software philosophy than does the NCL.
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 08, 2013 10:52PM |
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You can be Open Source, or closed, but you can't be both. It's as meaningless as being vegetarian but eating a little bit of meat.
If you want to abandon Open Source, that is fine, there are plenty of IP protection mechanisms granted by governments that enable you do that. You don't need to create any new ones, and they won't have any legal or practical meaning anyway.
There are lots of good reasons why NC is considered bad for Open Source, and if anyone wants to they can go and read what they are. But if anyone wants to support Open Source, they won't be doing it by adopting NC.
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Did you know that the top 10 contributors to the Linux kernel include Red Hat, Intel, Novell, IBM, Texas Instruments, Broadcom, Nokia, Samsung, Oracle and Google? There is no way they would do that if there was a NC clause in the GPL.
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Did you know that the top 10 contributors to the Linux kernel include [...]
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Re: An internal struggle between the "we" and the "me" on the community and IP October 14, 2013 05:49AM |
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Those projects that close their licence will become dead ends regardless.
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Well excepting retired people, students, plainly rich people and 'slackers'.. But it is kindah still 'wrong' to stick to those, i effect not give the other people a chance.Quote
The important thing to consider is that in that utopia there is no need for a GPL or CC license so the fact that those licences are promoted means that we are not yet in that utopia or people would publish exclusively anonymously.
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