best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ?
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best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 03:05PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 03:24PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 03:25PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 03:46PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 04:38PM |
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Somewhere around .24 might work well, but your actual optimal layer height depends on your lead-screws as much as (or more than) your nozzle diameter. Check out Josef Prusa's calculator for Optimal Layer Height.
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 05:16PM |
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Thank You I will run some test prints tomorrow. I have been using 0.2 layer hight and have been getting very good prints but it is very slow it took over 5 hours to print just the body of a wades extruder but not having any experience am not 100% sure if that is just how long it takes.
Thanks Nikki
Thanks Nikki
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 08:55PM |
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Nikki81
Thank You I will run some test prints tomorrow. I have been using 0.2 layer hight and have been getting very good prints but it is very slow it took over 5 hours to print just the body of a wades extruder but not having any experience am not 100% sure if that is just how long it takes.
Thanks Nikki
sounds pretty normal, the process was never meant to be quick
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 18, 2015 11:36PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 02:24AM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 06:37AM |
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I think I have found the perfect setting I have been testing 0.25 with the 0.5 test cube.
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 10:34AM |
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I think I have found the perfect setting I have been testing 0.25 with the 0.5 test cube.
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Sweet job. One caveat though...make sure that your layer value gives you integral steps ( [Steps/mm] / StepSize ) on your z-axis. If you end up with decimals, then there will be a rounding error and the part gets ripples.
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 04:11PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 05:14PM |
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He meant make sure your layer height is evenly divisable by the steps and pitch of your Zaxis threaded rod.Quote
lunarkingdom
his calipers say mm ;-)
If he is using a 5mm threaded rod with a .8mm pitch then at a layer height of .25mm he will have an error of -.8mm over 10cm
M5 threaded rod likes layers that are even. Instead of .25mm (that would give rounding issues) .24mm or .26mm would be fine.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2015 05:15PM by Floyd.
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 05:19PM |
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He meant make sure your layer height is evenly divisable by the steps and pitch of your Zaxis threaded rod.
If he is using a 5mm threaded rod with a .8mm pitch then at a layer height of .25mm he will have an error of -.8mm over 10cm
M5 threaded rod likes layers that are even. Instead of .25mm (that would give rounding issues) .24mm or .26mm would be fine.
So almost nobody uses bed autotramming/leveling? I am asking because if you use it then your "virtual Z axis" is probably no longer vertical and the above precaution would no longer be so simple to apply.
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 06:23PM |
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Personally ive used auto bed level with and without and I found I had more issues and grief with it on the printer.
I manually leveled the bed using a machinest indicator and have not had to worry about a unleveled bed since.
Auto bed level in my opinion has its places but its no replacement for a properly setup printer.
I manually leveled the bed using a machinest indicator and have not had to worry about a unleveled bed since.
Auto bed level in my opinion has its places but its no replacement for a properly setup printer.
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 06:27PM |
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Personally ive used auto bed level with and without and I found I had more issues and grief with it on the printer.
I manually leveled the bed using a machinest indicator and have not had to worry about a unleveled bed since.
Auto bed level in my opinion has its places but its no replacement for a properly setup printer.
Sorry for the OT question: what (kind and model of) tool did you use specifically?
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 19, 2015 09:20PM |
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This is not the one I used but just about any dial indicator will work. Id shoot for one in .001" graduations
[www.amazon.com]
Dial indicators start at about 20-30 bucks and go into the many hundreds...
[www.amazon.com]
Dial indicators start at about 20-30 bucks and go into the many hundreds...
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 20, 2015 03:31AM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 20, 2015 05:00AM |
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So almost nobody uses bed autotramming/leveling? I am asking because if you use it then your "virtual Z axis" is probably no longer vertical and the above precaution would no longer be so simple to apply.
I periodically level the bed as accurately as I can using the levelling screws, however there is a slight twist in the Y axis which means that I can't get all 4 corners at exactly the same height. Also the bed seems to drift out of adjustment sometimes. I could probably fix both of these with a little work, however as long as the amount of error is no more than about 0.3mm, I am content to enable auto bed compensation when I do a large print.
Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod
Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 20, 2015 04:00PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 22, 2015 01:31PM |
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 22, 2015 02:39PM |
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I straped it to my carriage with the plunger on the bed.
Then i manually jogged the bed in the x and y axis and adjusted until I could travel the whole distance of the bed without much of a change. Most of the time it was .002"-.004" difference from the high spots and low spots of the glass after leveling manually.
Then i manually jogged the bed in the x and y axis and adjusted until I could travel the whole distance of the bed without much of a change. Most of the time it was .002"-.004" difference from the high spots and low spots of the glass after leveling manually.
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 22, 2015 04:29PM |
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Here is a picture of three runs that I did at three different z-axis slicing levels. Don't consider top infill. [forums.reprap.org]
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Re: best layer hight for a 0.4 nozzle ? May 22, 2015 04:41PM |
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