Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 07:52PM |
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 10:02PM |
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How would this be different from ebay?Quote
toxuin
Such platform would connect makers in their garages and people that don't mind paying more than $10 for a good thingy, sometimes even with getting personal with the author.
Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 10:04PM |
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So here's an idea for the RepRap community: why not make a platform for hardware developers like Brian where they could sell their designs? Like Amazon, but for makers (and without all that amazon crap).
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 10:09PM |
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 10:09PM |
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Imo developing open hardware in the context of RepRap has no viable commercial base, thus i only do it as a hobby and explicitly don't see it as a potential side job.
Ah, OK, so you work actively on RepRap businesses going south by taking the value of engineering work away. Not sure if your employer would still pay you if you'd start to the same in his business field.
Anyways, such behaviour is one of the reasons why "Saving the RepRap project" (topic) can't work. Cheapo-chinese taking the value of manufacturing away, hobbyists taking the value of engnieering away, both together leaving a lot of frustration behind because nobody takes on the unpleasant parts (documentation, making something reliable, making it idiot-proof, such stuff).
Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 10:23PM |
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Now you're trying to demonize people working on this as a hobby?
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 10:24PM |
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 11:27PM |
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Clearly, I'm not very proficient with the quote function. It would be much appreciated if someone could give me a quick tutorial.
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 11:36PM |
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andychang28
Businesses should absolutely distribute technology to users and collect a profit while doing it, but they must not get in the way of science in the process.
Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 30, 2016 11:51PM |
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andychang28
Even worse, greedy businesses like Makerbot take innovations from the existing community and patent them to gain a monopoly in the market.
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 31, 2016 04:23AM |
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Do i read you correctly in that by your opinion Open Source Hardware Development needs to be based on a commercial interest to be valid and of value?Quote
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Imo developing open hardware in the context of RepRap has no viable commercial base, thus i only do it as a hobby and explicitly don't see it as a potential side job.
Ah, OK, so you work actively on RepRap businesses going south by taking the value of engineering work away. Not sure if your employer would still pay you if you'd start to the same in his business field.
Anyways, such behaviour is one of the reasons why "Saving the RepRap project" (topic) can't work. Cheapo-chinese taking the value of manufacturing away, hobbyists taking the value of engnieering away, both together leaving a lot of frustration behind because nobody takes on the unpleasant parts (documentation, making something reliable, making it idiot-proof, such stuff).
Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 31, 2016 08:22AM |
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Srek
Do i read you correctly in that by your opinion Open Source Hardware Development needs to be based on a commercial interest to be valid and of value?
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project March 31, 2016 09:46AM |
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My so far biggest personal contribution to open hardware was the Merlin hotend, which took me a year to develop to a point where it wasn't just a "works for me" solution but a more generaly viable solution. It is available as a commercial product for 2 years now and is used in commercialy available printers.Quote
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Ah, OK, so you work actively on RepRap businesses going south by taking the value of engineering work away.
Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 06, 2016 09:33PM |
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 07, 2016 10:00AM |
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J-Head Mk 9 will be marketed if somebody can convince me of a way to bring it to market that will not result in cheap chinese knock-offs that get spammed everywhere and destroy the product
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 08, 2016 02:06PM |
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 08, 2016 02:40PM |
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 08, 2016 07:10PM |
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well the idea was to use ebay mechanisms not lawsuitesQuote
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you still need a lawsuit, though it might be easier to get them if they say made in Britain and it's not
Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 08, 2016 07:11PM |
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 08, 2016 07:19PM |
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Was talking to someone earlier today who is a patent lawyer. She says (in the UK at least) if a product uses your trademark so for example J-head or E3d and is imported then customs will seize it and prevent it reaching the purchaser. Its a case of contacting them and making your case. They can't catch them all, but if they catch a proportion it helps - right?
Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 08, 2016 08:38PM |
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but on ebay - I've seen some caution on the part of the sellers
possibly precisely because of these rules
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Re: Saving the RepRap Project April 08, 2016 10:49PM |
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