Re: [AutoBed Levelling] New prespective April 03, 2016 12:47PM |
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Treito
But for first commisioning and first print results if you are new into 3D printing ABL is a great help or do you think you (grand-) parents would be able to use an I3 by themselves?
Re: [AutoBed Levelling] New prespective April 04, 2016 01:02PM |
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Re: [AutoBed Levelling] New prespective April 04, 2016 10:21PM |
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DjDemonD
I like the idea and the passive nature of it is good also. I think you can calculate a plane using the method you have proposed. I do not know how easy or quick it will be to build as you have to calibrate this mechanism somehow.
However whilst the potentiometers will be cheap, the dead flat base will not be. Nothing that is nearing truly flat i.e. tooling plate is cheap. Also if you go to the trouble of buying the dead flat plate why not print onto it? Why not build a machine that is orthogonal to the dead flat tooling plate?
You also need to consider that by using sensors you can do more than just calculate a plane. Some Marlin versions (and other firmwares I am sure) will calculate a full bed height map. So you can compensate for an uneven bed as well as a tilted bed. This will be of even more use for the consumer printer, since it will give good first layers even if the customer doesn't clean the build plate etc...
I think you have potentially a good idea, but whether it solves a problem that actually exists I do not know.
Re: [AutoBed Levelling] New prespective April 04, 2016 10:35PM |
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Re: [AutoBed Levelling] New prespective April 04, 2016 10:37PM |
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DjDemonD
So it seems there are two wider issues:
1) do non-geeks want 3d printers? and if not is it because they have no utility for them, or is it because they're frightened they won't be able to get them to work?
2) If they do want them - how do you make a cheap, "prints-out-of-the-box" printer, as the Cubicon proves you can make one and retail it for $2500, but thats not the price point for a consumer printer.
I'd like to think that everyone will want a 3d printer and make full use of it in 10 years time, but I'm not so sure. Not everyone has a 2d printer now, they just go to a print shop, public library etc when they want to print something, despite 2d printers being available for $40 brand new (accepting that ink cartridges are then $60 each after that).
Is this because 3d printers just haven't captured the public's imagination - I think they have. Most people have heard of them and seem to be generally in awe of the idea. Not many people realise you can buy one for $300. I spoke to someone this weekend who commented on a 3d printed object I had with me and asked me if the printers cost $2000 each? Market research is needed. I am worried what will happen is Apple with make one, everyone will love an think Apple invented them and well all have to buy i-filament from now on.
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