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Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 15, 2016 04:24AM
Did anyone try to install electric pencil on a RepRap?
Video demo

Also stepper motor might be a good fit for installing this pencil (we tried that on a DIY)
Electric pencil


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 16, 2016 07:22PM
Sorry, but what's an electric pencil?
Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 03:01AM
good question, actually it is a regular pencil but with 220V connected wire...
Electricity goes inside the pencil and melts carbon that allows to engrave on a steel or aluminum...
but be very careful with that, high voltage ...
110V will also work


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 04:58AM
... when "engraving" with carbide and graphite some ten years ago I used low DC voltages in the range of 3V to 48V but currents of up to 30 Amps, what's safe for touch -- so better avoid the potentially deadly line voltages eye rolling smiley


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 05:02AM
could be 30 Amps but that is too much...


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 10:14AM
... depends on energy density - I'm sometimes working with pulse times down to some hundred nanoseconds and currents of up to 90 Amps, if I get the current through the wires in time winking smiley

But with manual "engraving" it's more like higher currents wil lower voltages ... the greatest problem here is to avoid "fusing" between tip and workpiece (for this is the pulsing) ...

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2016 10:15AM by VDX.


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 10:17AM
Victor, did you have a chance to make a video or pictures?


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 12:08PM
... actually I'm busy with developing laser- and dispensing applications ... so only if I'll restart with EDM again - maybe in some months ...


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 02:55PM
So this is essentially EDM, with air as the electrolyte and a pencil as the electrode? Sounds fascinating!
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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 03:07PM
... some +30 years ago I've done some experiments with high-voltage discharging "EDM" with 2kV and 14kV transformers - but this was even more dangerous than with line voltages.

Could be intersting to test with higher frequenzies in the hundred kHz range, to reduce the "deadly potential".

Maybe something like EDM with a Tesla-coil winking smiley


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 05:13PM
What about a better insulated pencil?
VDX
Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 06:28PM
... you can't insulate the tip ...


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 17, 2016 07:41PM
dont touch the tip, wear rubber gloves & boots, sit inside a Faraday cage, dont sharpen the pencil with a metal pencil sharpner without protection smiling smiley
Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 18, 2016 08:22AM
interesting, Victor, what type of lasers: fiber, CO2, diode?

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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 18, 2016 08:23AM
you are right about that, maybe I have to write an article first about it and make a big disclouse that it is always on your own risk to repeat this experiment at home!)


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 18, 2016 08:24AM
some people in Russia do things like that but that is craziness)))
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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 18, 2016 09:40AM
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interesting, Victor, what type of lasers: fiber, CO2, diode?

... all of the above and some other types (disc-laser, excimer, TAE) too winking smiley


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 18, 2016 09:59AM
very interesting, do you have a blog or how may I learn more about that?


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 18, 2016 03:55PM
... some years ago I've started a small wiki-page for RepRapOrg - [www.reprap.org]

And a dedicated "Laser-section" here in the forum - [forums.reprap.org]

Most of the "serious" work and development was about the last 35 years for different companies, scientific projects or simply for my own interest ... some of them under NDA's, but most other not posted or blogged too for different reasons - and no active internet then winking smiley


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 19, 2016 07:13AM
but now it can become more popular topic, what do you think?


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 19, 2016 05:02PM
... I've posted and posting some of my "home-brew" dvelopment here and/or in other forums, so you can find some of this when searching for the combined tags "laser diode VDX" or other combinations with "microtech", "nanotech" and such winking smiley


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Re: Electric pencil on a RepRap
August 20, 2016 04:16AM
found something
[forums.reprap.org]
[reprap.org]


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