RepRap family tree
Posted by Emmanuel
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Re: RepRap family tree January 06, 2012 03:05PM |
Both the Ronthomp model and the Mendel90 are noted on my list since I saw them and will to be added to the next revision (when I'll take a little time to make the 3.3 update...).
Thanks
Thanks
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Re: RepRap family tree January 22, 2012 06:48PM |
You mean shapercube ? but indeed I can move it closer to the Darwin branch.
I'm trying to group them like an entomologist would do (if I can pretend that, I feel we can make an equivalent of the classification of the living things for the repraps), by their lineage and also by how they look like and how they works. For the Mendel90 I see now many frame based on a similar T-frame (inverted T) and thus start a new group. But I'll move it near the mendel branch, because they usually keep the same movement (XZ head and Y bed).
So the shapercube need even more to be near the Darwin (cube, XY head Z bed)... thanks for having a look at that
I hope to rely on something like [lemio.nl] in the futur, it can be easier to keep a good structure with the right classification rules integrated (but sometimes it feel easier to just make everything by hand ^^').
I'm trying to group them like an entomologist would do (if I can pretend that, I feel we can make an equivalent of the classification of the living things for the repraps), by their lineage and also by how they look like and how they works. For the Mendel90 I see now many frame based on a similar T-frame (inverted T) and thus start a new group. But I'll move it near the mendel branch, because they usually keep the same movement (XZ head and Y bed).
So the shapercube need even more to be near the Darwin (cube, XY head Z bed)... thanks for having a look at that
I hope to rely on something like [lemio.nl] in the futur, it can be easier to keep a good structure with the right classification rules integrated (but sometimes it feel easier to just make everything by hand ^^').
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Re: RepRap family tree January 29, 2012 03:46PM |
@Nophead, ok I'll change that in the next revision
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Re: RepRap family tree March 18, 2012 04:48PM |
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Re: RepRap family tree March 27, 2012 05:00PM |
@jebba sorry they are not yet in the tree, but it's planned for the revision 3.4 ^^ which I hope to update for April/May when I'll have some time to add all these new printers
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Re: RepRap family tree April 15, 2012 08:34PM |
Revision 4.0 freshly baked !
RepRap Family Tree
3.3 -> 4.0 is because this revision was the occasion to implement the idea of a head-bed classification (e.g. XZ-Y for the Mendel, XY-Z for the Darwin).
And it's getting long with maybe more than 150 machines now (I stopped to count after 100...)
Some though about the last evolutions :
*Printrbot-style influence : albeit recent it have already inspired a number of variations (I haven't added all the minor-thingiverse-derivatives), and many new concepts put also the two z-motors at the bottom now (e.g. MiniMax)
*T-slot Bots explosion : stiffness powa and a more finished look maybe (often faster than threaded rod to assemble too), but I bet it's also because of shared information about where to source aluminium extrusions
*Portability desire on one hand : with the Huxleys, Printrbots, Ord-bot, or the t-slot, not mentioning my folding reprap ^^
*and Big machines on the other : even if quite rare, there was always a "big darwin", "big mendel", "big prusa", "big ultimaker", and even an ultra big ultimaker with the KamerMaker
*Ultimaker-style's gantry is popular but there is still a huge domination of cartesian XZ-head Y-bed arrangement, Ed. Sells had a good idea with his Mendel ;-) (we also tend to follow what works before trying other things).
We can also observe (or at least I feel) that more and more projects are commercially oriented. That's good for the spreading of the technology and to sustain a part of the community (someone may have already written something like that on the reprap-blog before), but if the number of 3d-printers grows exponentially, their diversity too (thanks to all the shared individual development I'll say), which is probably good to bring more innovations for our DIY machines, like granule extruder, multi-extrusion, etc.
And you, what do you see ?
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RepRap Family Tree
3.3 -> 4.0 is because this revision was the occasion to implement the idea of a head-bed classification (e.g. XZ-Y for the Mendel, XY-Z for the Darwin).
And it's getting long with maybe more than 150 machines now (I stopped to count after 100...)
Some though about the last evolutions :
*Printrbot-style influence : albeit recent it have already inspired a number of variations (I haven't added all the minor-thingiverse-derivatives), and many new concepts put also the two z-motors at the bottom now (e.g. MiniMax)
*T-slot Bots explosion : stiffness powa and a more finished look maybe (often faster than threaded rod to assemble too), but I bet it's also because of shared information about where to source aluminium extrusions
*Portability desire on one hand : with the Huxleys, Printrbots, Ord-bot, or the t-slot, not mentioning my folding reprap ^^
*and Big machines on the other : even if quite rare, there was always a "big darwin", "big mendel", "big prusa", "big ultimaker", and even an ultra big ultimaker with the KamerMaker
*Ultimaker-style's gantry is popular but there is still a huge domination of cartesian XZ-head Y-bed arrangement, Ed. Sells had a good idea with his Mendel ;-) (we also tend to follow what works before trying other things).
We can also observe (or at least I feel) that more and more projects are commercially oriented. That's good for the spreading of the technology and to sustain a part of the community (someone may have already written something like that on the reprap-blog before), but if the number of 3d-printers grows exponentially, their diversity too (thanks to all the shared individual development I'll say), which is probably good to bring more innovations for our DIY machines, like granule extruder, multi-extrusion, etc.
And you, what do you see ?
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Re: RepRap family tree April 17, 2012 09:22AM |
I remember this one (well soldered ) but I forgotten to add it, thanks.
) but I forgotten to add it, thanks.
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Re: RepRap family tree July 03, 2012 05:01PM |
For the 1 1 1, I didn't seen either a printer with only a moving bed, or maybe yes : the solar sinter of Marcus Kayser ! The focal point is immobile while all the bed is moving in XY plus the table lowering the layers of sand in Z
But for 1 0 0 or 0 1 0 it's a matter of point of view : the first (Xbed-YZhead) viewed sideway is like a XZhead-Ybed or the classical Mendel.
I'd say the same for the 1 0 1 and the 0 1 1
Otherwise for a bot that feel 1 0 0 there is the Printrbot Junior.
But at the end it's maybe more accurate to talk about the repartition of the degrees of freedom ?
(even if I'll keep the XYZ denomination for the moment because it's easier to understand)
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But for 1 0 0 or 0 1 0 it's a matter of point of view : the first (Xbed-YZhead) viewed sideway is like a XZhead-Ybed or the classical Mendel.
I'd say the same for the 1 0 1 and the 0 1 1
Otherwise for a bot that feel 1 0 0 there is the Printrbot Junior.
But at the end it's maybe more accurate to talk about the repartition of the degrees of freedom ?
(even if I'll keep the XYZ denomination for the moment because it's easier to understand)
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Re: RepRap family tree August 17, 2012 07:13AM |
Very interesting, I seen some dual-extruder but not yours working (especially the software side)
But as you said it's more a mod for almost any Mendel than a general redesign.
I mean you just have to add the extruder beside the z-motor-bracket and replace the actual extruder by the hotends-holder, it's great in a sense but I'm wondering if it's worth another entry ?
But as you said it's more a mod for almost any Mendel than a general redesign.
I mean you just have to add the extruder beside the z-motor-bracket and replace the actual extruder by the hotends-holder, it's great in a sense but I'm wondering if it's worth another entry ?
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Re: RepRap family tree September 28, 2012 07:54AM |
I'm trying to make the next major revision of the RepRap Family Tree.
With all the new machines that popped up, that make me even more considering to try a real philogenetic software, in order to have something easier to update and maintain.
Among hundreds of softwares, I found this one that looks promising : [itol.embl.de]
You can even add details and picture for each node when you click on it
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With all the new machines that popped up, that make me even more considering to try a real philogenetic software, in order to have something easier to update and maintain.
Among hundreds of softwares, I found this one that looks promising : [itol.embl.de]
You can even add details and picture for each node when you click on it
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Re: RepRap family tree October 01, 2012 07:56PM |
Yeah, but after some tries I don't know if I will continue, or maybe later ^^'
At least it helped me at refining a little the eventual reprap taxonomy...
See my repo for the .txt file I used to make the following tree
In comparison it's so much easier to do things exactly as I want in Illustrator/Inkscape, but things get longer to edit as new machines are poping up every days !
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At least it helped me at refining a little the eventual reprap taxonomy...
See my repo for the .txt file I used to make the following tree
In comparison it's so much easier to do things exactly as I want in Illustrator/Inkscape, but things get longer to edit as new machines are poping up every days !
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Re: RepRap family tree October 01, 2012 08:05PM |
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Re: RepRap family tree October 22, 2012 02:39PM |
@Kristen Ok, I'll check that too.
On the good news, I may not have found yet a good software to replace making the tree by hand, but I will probably work with some colleagues and students onto that (continuing the tree, with deeper analysis/comparison of every printers)
Thanks
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On the good news, I may not have found yet a good software to replace making the tree by hand, but I will probably work with some colleagues and students onto that (continuing the tree, with deeper analysis/comparison of every printers)
Thanks
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