Problem with host software and ardunio
Posted by drummerboyx
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Problem with host software and ardunio November 10, 2009 07:43PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
I hooked up everything to my arduino and all my axis run with the host software perfectly. When I go to the extruder tab, it reads the temp alright but when I press the "extrude" button or the "heater on" button, nothing happens. I looked in my code and wired it up exactly as it said in my code. Also, in the preferences for the host software I set fiveD to false.
I'm really confused.
Thanks,
Drummerboyx
I'm really confused.
Thanks,
Drummerboyx
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 10, 2009 10:18PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 536 |
Well, it sounds like you've got basic communications working OK if you can read the temp and move the axis.
Which exact version of the firmware, and which version of the host software (and what OS) are you running? Also, are you using the Gen3 electronics with a separate Extruder Controller?
One thing I often do for testing is to send Gcodes directly to the motherboard from a serial terminal (say, Hypertermianl if you're on windows), to isolate whether the problem is with your host software or your firmware. M105 checks the temperature, and M104 S50 would set the temperature to 50 deg C.
Also, check the LED's on the extruder controller - some versions of the firmware use different outputs to run the heater.
Wade
Which exact version of the firmware, and which version of the host software (and what OS) are you running? Also, are you using the Gen3 electronics with a separate Extruder Controller?
One thing I often do for testing is to send Gcodes directly to the motherboard from a serial terminal (say, Hypertermianl if you're on windows), to isolate whether the problem is with your host software or your firmware. M105 checks the temperature, and M104 S50 would set the temperature to 50 deg C.
Also, check the LED's on the extruder controller - some versions of the firmware use different outputs to run the heater.
Wade
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 10, 2009 10:22PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 10, 2009 11:21PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
I have a gen2 setup and have got it working.
First are the relavant lights coming on ?
There is a debug LED on both DC motor board and PWM board?
The latest Firmware does not work due to a bug in the DC motor code.
Have you made the firmware change?
if you want my updated version see
[dev.forums.reprap.org]
You want the v1.9 version at the bottom.
Should work straight out of the box.
Stephen
First are the relavant lights coming on ?
There is a debug LED on both DC motor board and PWM board?
The latest Firmware does not work due to a bug in the DC motor code.
Have you made the firmware change?
if you want my updated version see
[dev.forums.reprap.org]
You want the v1.9 version at the bottom.
Should work straight out of the box.
Stephen
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 07:12AM |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 03:33PM |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 03:44PM |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 04:09PM |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 04:16PM |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 05:16PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
OK...Now My stepper motors sort of work. They can only go in one direction. In the host software I used the buttons that make the stepper motor move and it only moves when I press the right one. When I press the left one the motor does nothing. Also, The heater still dosen't work, but I think I know what the problem is...
Thanks,
Elijah Wood
Thanks,
Elijah Wood
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 05:38PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
> They can only go in one direction
I suspect you are using 1.1 stepper boards and therefore have the older optical switchs which are swaped over .... I use the newer optical board with an led to show you if it's active or not.
I think you need to make the following change
Parameter.h
// Set to one if sensor outputs inverting (ie: 1 means open, 0 means closed)
// RepRap opto endstops are *not* inverting.
//#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 0
#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 1
needs to be
// Set to one if sensor outputs inverting (ie: 1 means open, 0 means closed)
// RepRap opto endstops are *not* inverting.
#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 0
//#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 1
I suspect you are using 1.1 stepper boards and therefore have the older optical switchs which are swaped over .... I use the newer optical board with an led to show you if it's active or not.
I think you need to make the following change
Parameter.h
// Set to one if sensor outputs inverting (ie: 1 means open, 0 means closed)
// RepRap opto endstops are *not* inverting.
//#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 0
#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 1
needs to be
// Set to one if sensor outputs inverting (ie: 1 means open, 0 means closed)
// RepRap opto endstops are *not* inverting.
#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 0
//#define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING 1
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 05:48PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
Hi drummerboyx ()
I don't suppose you could give me a list of the problems you have had and
how you solved them. I am trying to make the arduino firmware code and gen2
electronics as useable as possible.
regards
Stephen
P.s. freds is right I don't use windows. Sorry should have included a .zip.
I don't suppose you could give me a list of the problems you have had and
how you solved them. I am trying to make the arduino firmware code and gen2
electronics as useable as possible.
regards
Stephen
P.s. freds is right I don't use windows. Sorry should have included a .zip.
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 05:56PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
If you are in the debuging stage and you are using my firmware
you might be interested in enabling
// #define PROCESS_STRING_serial_monitor_debug
to
#define PROCESS_STRING_serial_monitor_debug
in the parameter file.
It allows you to use the serial monitor for debuging purposes.
The serial monitor comes with the arduino compiler and can be activated by clicking the button next to the upload buton and setting the speed to 19200.
You can now test out the firmware directly without having to use the pc software.
// tells you the temperature of the extruder
M105;
Turns your motor on
M108 S255;
M101;
// reverse motor
M102;
etc
See [reprap.org] for more Mcodes.
regards
Stephen
you might be interested in enabling
// #define PROCESS_STRING_serial_monitor_debug
to
#define PROCESS_STRING_serial_monitor_debug
in the parameter file.
It allows you to use the serial monitor for debuging purposes.
The serial monitor comes with the arduino compiler and can be activated by clicking the button next to the upload buton and setting the speed to 19200.
You can now test out the firmware directly without having to use the pc software.
// tells you the temperature of the extruder
M105;
Turns your motor on
M108 S255;
M101;
// reverse motor
M102;
etc
See [reprap.org] for more Mcodes.
regards
Stephen
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 07:24PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
Thanks! I'm going to test the new code change tomorrow and I'll keep you updated. The following problems I faced were:
1. I have a different thermistor and it was reading the temp. wrong. I had to play around with the #s in the code to get it to work, but I still don't know if it is accurate or not.
2. The stepper problem (which you had shown me above)
And that's about it. The firmware was great and I really didn't have to do much to get it to work.
Also, you should contact the RepRap guys and give them your code to post on their site. I thought it was sort of a hassle to ask it in the forums and wait for a response.
Thanks,
Drummerboyx
1. I have a different thermistor and it was reading the temp. wrong. I had to play around with the #s in the code to get it to work, but I still don't know if it is accurate or not.
2. The stepper problem (which you had shown me above)
And that's about it. The firmware was great and I really didn't have to do much to get it to work.
Also, you should contact the RepRap guys and give them your code to post on their site. I thought it was sort of a hassle to ask it in the forums and wait for a response.
Thanks,
Drummerboyx
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 11, 2009 09:48PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
Thanks for the info
Please Would you fill in the following to say what environment worked and how.
Just so people following you get their firmware code to work.
(I can only test so many options)
Just fill in the version numbers
Thanks
Stephen
// v1.9 tested on the following environment
// PC Setup
// OPERATING SYSTEM XXXXXXXX, Arduino vXX compiler,
// ReprapXXXXXX (global.FiveD=XXXX,extruder0.extruder speed 255, etc XXXXXXX )
// Electronics
// Arduino Diecimila,vX.X Stepper drivers,vX.X Temperature sensor,vX.X Opto enstop,vX.X PWM Drier,vX.X DC Motor driver, etc XXXXXX
// Extruder
// Makerbot.com/plastruder-mk4fs
// Firmware changes
// Parameter changes - #define INVERT_X_DIR X, #define USE_THERMISTOR, #define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING X, EXTRUDER_FORWARD false, EXTRUDER_REVERSE true
// Pin changes
// None
Please Would you fill in the following to say what environment worked and how.
Just so people following you get their firmware code to work.
(I can only test so many options)
Just fill in the version numbers
Thanks
Stephen
// v1.9 tested on the following environment
// PC Setup
// OPERATING SYSTEM XXXXXXXX, Arduino vXX compiler,
// ReprapXXXXXX (global.FiveD=XXXX,extruder0.extruder speed 255, etc XXXXXXX )
// Electronics
// Arduino Diecimila,vX.X Stepper drivers,vX.X Temperature sensor,vX.X Opto enstop,vX.X PWM Drier,vX.X DC Motor driver, etc XXXXXX
// Extruder
// Makerbot.com/plastruder-mk4fs
// Firmware changes
// Parameter changes - #define INVERT_X_DIR X, #define USE_THERMISTOR, #define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING X, EXTRUDER_FORWARD false, EXTRUDER_REVERSE true
// Pin changes
// None
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 12, 2009 01:57PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 12, 2009 03:23PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 12, 2009 05:49PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
What level do you have on the optical switch?
Does it have an led on it?
Try the following
Start reprap up.
Start REprap
Move it one way.
Move it the other way.
You said that it will only move one way.
Now Power off - complete reset.
turn off everything and repap and host computer
Now get a credit card (not paper) and stick it in the optical sensor.
If you have one with an LED it should light up.
Start reprap up.
Start REprap host software
Move it one way.
Move it the other way.
Report your findings.
Stephen
Does it have an led on it?
Try the following
Start reprap up.
Start REprap
Move it one way.
Move it the other way.
You said that it will only move one way.
Now Power off - complete reset.
turn off everything and repap and host computer
Now get a credit card (not paper) and stick it in the optical sensor.
If you have one with an LED it should light up.
Start reprap up.
Start REprap host software
Move it one way.
Move it the other way.
Report your findings.
Stephen
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 12, 2009 05:52PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 12, 2009 10:06PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 12, 2009 10:12PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 12, 2009 11:57PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
I thought I would get this to you before I forgot. I still don't have it working perfectly but I thought I would give you this to make it easier to help me get it working.
// v1.9 tested on the following environment
// PC Setup
// OPERATING SYSTEM Windows XP, Arduino v17 compiler,
// Reprap Newest software (global.FiveD=false,extruder0.extruder speed 255)
// Electronics
// Arduino Diecimila,v1.2 Stepper drivers,Homemade Temperature sensor,push button instead of Opto enstop,v1.1 PWM Drier,v1.1 DC Motor driver
// Extruder
// Homemade extruder with DC motor
// Firmware changes
// Parameter changes - #define INVERT_X_DIR X, #define USE_THERMISTOR, #define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING X, EXTRUDER_FORWARD false, EXTRUDER_REVERSE true
// Pin changes
// Moved some pins to make it easier to wire up
// v1.9 tested on the following environment
// PC Setup
// OPERATING SYSTEM Windows XP, Arduino v17 compiler,
// Reprap Newest software (global.FiveD=false,extruder0.extruder speed 255)
// Electronics
// Arduino Diecimila,v1.2 Stepper drivers,Homemade Temperature sensor,push button instead of Opto enstop,v1.1 PWM Drier,v1.1 DC Motor driver
// Extruder
// Homemade extruder with DC motor
// Firmware changes
// Parameter changes - #define INVERT_X_DIR X, #define USE_THERMISTOR, #define ENDSTOPS_INVERTING X, EXTRUDER_FORWARD false, EXTRUDER_REVERSE true
// Pin changes
// Moved some pins to make it easier to wire up
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 13, 2009 06:57PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
Thanks for that.
I just had another thought. You have put the direction lead into the arduino?
Because if not it will be always low and keep going in the same direction.
The way to test this is to get hold of the test software on the how to build it page
set the pins to be on your arduino and then make sure the steper goes in both directions
with your current wireing.
regards
Stephen
I just had another thought. You have put the direction lead into the arduino?
Because if not it will be always low and keep going in the same direction.
The way to test this is to get hold of the test software on the how to build it page
set the pins to be on your arduino and then make sure the steper goes in both directions
with your current wireing.
regards
Stephen
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 13, 2009 07:15PM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 15, 2009 09:29AM |
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 15, 2009 06:50PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 242 |
>Thanks for all of your help getting me through this.
Grin. Your welcome. Good feeling isn't it?
Now comes the fun bit.....
Calibrating
Tell me how you go because I still have not got past the spagetti stage.
Everything works fine but I can't work out what each parameter does.
Incidentally I gave up on the reprap host software for anything more
than debuging and testing axis/extruder.
I am attempting skeinforge and getting a much better quality of spagetti.
regards
Stephen
Ps.
Feed rate is how fast the extruder moves
Flowrate is how fast the extruder motor extrudes.
Grin. Your welcome. Good feeling isn't it?
Now comes the fun bit.....
Calibrating
Tell me how you go because I still have not got past the spagetti stage.
Everything works fine but I can't work out what each parameter does.
Incidentally I gave up on the reprap host software for anything more
than debuging and testing axis/extruder.
I am attempting skeinforge and getting a much better quality of spagetti.
regards
Stephen
Ps.
Feed rate is how fast the extruder moves
Flowrate is how fast the extruder motor extrudes.
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 16, 2009 07:55AM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 97 |
I'm going to do one better:
I've attatched the .pde files that worked with my set up. Also, I didn't relize but when I gave you that sheet with what kind of electronics I'm using. I accadently put the wrong arduino. It's arudino duemilinove.
P.S. I'm new to windows (I'm a mac guy) so I don't know how make zip files so I've just attached the "real" files. I hope it works.
I've attatched the .pde files that worked with my set up. Also, I didn't relize but when I gave you that sheet with what kind of electronics I'm using. I accadently put the wrong arduino. It's arudino duemilinove.
P.S. I'm new to windows (I'm a mac guy) so I don't know how make zip files so I've just attached the "real" files. I hope it works.
Attachments:
open | download - extruder.h (1.7 KB)
open | download - extruder.pde (13 KB)
open | download - GCode_Interpreter.pde (2.6 KB)
open | download - parameters.h (3.8 KB)
open | download - pins.h (2.7 KB)
open | download - process_string.pde (14 KB)
open | download - stepper_control.pde (11 KB)
open | download - ThermistorTable.h (1.2 KB)
open | download - extruder.h (1.7 KB)
open | download - extruder.pde (13 KB)
open | download - GCode_Interpreter.pde (2.6 KB)
open | download - parameters.h (3.8 KB)
open | download - pins.h (2.7 KB)
open | download - process_string.pde (14 KB)
open | download - stepper_control.pde (11 KB)
open | download - ThermistorTable.h (1.2 KB)
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 16, 2009 09:32AM |
Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 2 |
Check www.unlocklertool.com it will delete anything.
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 21, 2009 12:33PM |
Registered: 17 years ago Posts: 26 |
Stephen,
I'm working on a mcwire repstrap with Gen2 electronics and the Arduino. Thanks for this modification.
Quick question, on the pins.h file, under the arduino section.
#define EXTRUDER_0_TEMPERATURE_PIN (byte) 0 // Analogue input
isn't pin 0 used by the arduino to communicate with the USB port? Shouldn't it be pin 14 instead? Am I missing something?
thanks...
Luis Freeman
I'm working on a mcwire repstrap with Gen2 electronics and the Arduino. Thanks for this modification.
Quick question, on the pins.h file, under the arduino section.
#define EXTRUDER_0_TEMPERATURE_PIN (byte) 0 // Analogue input
isn't pin 0 used by the arduino to communicate with the USB port? Shouldn't it be pin 14 instead? Am I missing something?
thanks...
Luis Freeman
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Re: Problem with host software and ardunio November 21, 2009 12:37PM |
Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 300 |
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