New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China
Posted by vreihen
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 16, 2016 11:39AM |
Here is a picture of the latest version of the board. I ordered a couple of these to play with directly from Makerbase's Aliexpress store a couple weeks ago.
[drive.google.com]
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 17, 2016 12:16AM |
I just got 2 the other week, and is working on setting up the first one. Am working on an Instructables step-by-step for this board and smoothieware basics for it as well. (and a single temperature switch to turn on hotend fan).Quote
hodgeac
Here is a picture of the latest version of the board. I ordered a couple of these to play with directly from Makerbase's Aliexpress store a couple weeks ago.
[drive.google.com]
Just hate it doesn't support PT100
My Instructables - both total newbie instructables and some for intermediate users.
My Designs on Thingiverse
YouTube channel containing a few 3D printing videos - they are videos for my Instructables, and mostly not standalone.
Ultius / Tantillus Thingiverse Group
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 17, 2016 01:20AM |
Well, you DO have 2 motors to lift it, and not like Z needs to be super fast. At least your bed doesn't need to go to MAX before going to 0 like Ultimaker 2 style printers.Quote
Dark Alchemist
....1/4in in the dimensions shown will probably weigh about 3-5 pounds but would be very flat. Add the boro glass and the silicon heater and it will weigh in around 7-8 pounds I think.
Oh, I have tried frames, beds, you name it and USPS and UPS always bends whatever it is. If it isn't bent in shipping it will be bent upon delivery (already had 2 broken mailboxes within a year because the USPS driver didn't want to walk 25 feet on a nice day so they stuff my box and break it).
Seems you need to get a pair of new motors/Drivers if it's too heavy, and you have solved it.
When I order something like that and am not home to recieve it, I choose to have it delivered to parcel-box. Any parcel need a signature here in Denmark, as they are always insured, so postworkers never put them in mailboxes.
... that said, the topic seems to be WAY off from the the purpose of this tread, so maybe we should take this particular discussion somewhere else, and leave this thread for the Sbase board?
My Instructables - both total newbie instructables and some for intermediate users.
My Designs on Thingiverse
YouTube channel containing a few 3D printing videos - they are videos for my Instructables, and mostly not standalone.
Ultius / Tantillus Thingiverse Group
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 17, 2016 01:39AM |
Ahem, NO this is an I3 and this is the heated bed so 1 motor in the Y direction. It isn't going to happen with that amount of weight.Quote
dintid
Well, you DO have 2 motors to lift it, and not like Z needs to be super fast. At least your bed doesn't need to go to MAX before going to 0 like Ultimaker 2 style printers.Quote
Dark Alchemist
....1/4in in the dimensions shown will probably weigh about 3-5 pounds but would be very flat. Add the boro glass and the silicon heater and it will weigh in around 7-8 pounds I think.
Oh, I have tried frames, beds, you name it and USPS and UPS always bends whatever it is. If it isn't bent in shipping it will be bent upon delivery (already had 2 broken mailboxes within a year because the USPS driver didn't want to walk 25 feet on a nice day so they stuff my box and break it).
Seems you need to get a pair of new motors/Drivers if it's too heavy, and you have solved it.
When I order something like that and am not home to recieve it, I choose to have it delivered to parcel-box. Any parcel need a signature here in Denmark, as they are always insured, so postworkers never put them in mailboxes.
... that said, the topic seems to be WAY off from the the purpose of this tread, so maybe we should take this particular discussion somewhere else, and leave this thread for the Sbase board?
Yep, I was a bit shocked at the pick up of the convo so if you want we can continue this on another thread.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2016 01:41AM by Dark Alchemist.
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 17, 2016 02:04AM |
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dintid
I just got 2 the other week, and is working on setting up the first one. Am working on an Instructables step-by-step for this board and smoothieware basics for it as well. (and a single temperature switch to turn on hotend fan).Quote
hodgeac
Here is a picture of the latest version of the board. I ordered a couple of these to play with directly from Makerbase's Aliexpress store a couple weeks ago.
[drive.google.com]
Just hate it doesn't support PT100
I'm actually going to use one for my laser cutter and one for my cnc. My Mendel90 is still a work in progress, I have an Ultimaker 1.57 I plan on using with it at the moment. Though if I end up really liking smoothie, I might get a proper smoothieboard for it.
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 17, 2016 07:31AM |
I'm actually been waiting for Smoothieboard v2 for ages, but since there's no date or Price, or even anything on wheter they support PT100 sensors, I thought I'd try the Sbase. Seems like a solid board itself and I'll get to try out SmoothiewareQuote
hodgeac
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dintid
I just got 2 the other week, and is working on setting up the first one. Am working on an Instructables step-by-step for this board and smoothieware basics for it as well. (and a single temperature switch to turn on hotend fan).Quote
hodgeac
Here is a picture of the latest version of the board. I ordered a couple of these to play with directly from Makerbase's Aliexpress store a couple weeks ago.
[drive.google.com]
Just hate it doesn't support PT100
I'm actually going to use one for my laser cutter and one for my cnc. My Mendel90 is still a work in progress, I have an Ultimaker 1.57 I plan on using with it at the moment. Though if I end up really liking smoothie, I might get a proper smoothieboard for it.
Almost done wiring up an um2 clone.My Instructables - both total newbie instructables and some for intermediate users.
My Designs on Thingiverse
YouTube channel containing a few 3D printing videos - they are videos for my Instructables, and mostly not standalone.
Ultius / Tantillus Thingiverse Group
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 18, 2016 03:42AM |
Yea, I know how it Works. I know quite a good deal of people who start out using Smoothieware by buying one of these relatively cheap Chinese boards and then upgrade to a real Smoothieboard later on, so I do not really believe the Smoothieware project (or the economical side of it) is loosing on this. The people who do not upgrade to real boards propably would not buy one in any case, so no loss here.Quote
arthurwolf
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dintid
I'm actually been waiting for Smoothieboard v2 for ages, but since there's no date or Price,
It's a huge project ( we are not just taking somebody else's design and firmware and selling it, we actually have to do a lot of work, with the community ), and it is making progress. I hope to have some good news soon.
As for price, we aim at trying to keep the v2 at about the same price as v1 ( maybe a tad more ). But you get much more.
Same as the music industry whining about downloads for 20 years, when it turned out people actually bought more after they got to listen to some of it first
My main gripe with the Chinese way of doing Things is not really the copying, as I firmly believe it comes back tenfolds to the quality board after a while, but it is how Chinese firms copy and then make their own stuff Closed-source to avoid copying.. that's just so bad.
Awesome! Looking forward to it. The Chinese Company suggested hooking the amplifier board up to the AUX-1 pins and set it up from there, but I'm far from qualified for this.Quote
arthurwolf
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dintid
or even anything on wheter they support PT100 sensors,
We sent a free board to somebody that offered to implement that in firmware, I expect it'll be coming soon.
My Instructables - both total newbie instructables and some for intermediate users.
My Designs on Thingiverse
YouTube channel containing a few 3D printing videos - they are videos for my Instructables, and mostly not standalone.
Ultius / Tantillus Thingiverse Group
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 18, 2016 04:23AM |
Awesome, thanks.Quote
arthurwolf
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dintid
@arthurwolf
Is the Smoothieboard 2going to have naitive support for Thermocouplers and/or PT100?
Can the current Smoothieboard handle Thermocouplers without an external amplifier?
Smoothieboard v1 does not have amplifiers on-board, and v2 will not either.
However, v2 will have an extension board system that will make it very easy to add things like that, with a standard connector and a rich set of extension boards.
I'm a good example of my own reasoning about buying cheap chinese to try out before upgrade... I must admit I've been a bit wavering about buying a Smoothieboard.. it isn't exactly cheap, and it's really hard to get an idea of the capabilities of the boards and Smoothieware itself, when you are and always have been using Marlin...
.. esepcially since most of the information is targeted people allready very good at the electrical and coding side of stuff... I have been unable to find a single good beginners guide to either the boards or setting it up!! I have found some target to Experts, like your own smoothieware site, but not anything for normal people just wanting something else than arduino+ramps for their 3D printer, when the old controller dies.
... that said, after just 1 week of smoothieware, and not really started printing yet, I have seen some really nice functions/usage prospects, like the switches you can setup, which greatly increase the chance of me buying the real deal
My Instructables - both total newbie instructables and some for intermediate users.
My Designs on Thingiverse
YouTube channel containing a few 3D printing videos - they are videos for my Instructables, and mostly not standalone.
Ultius / Tantillus Thingiverse Group
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China April 18, 2016 05:56AM |
Which schematic do you use? I'm not "not" believing you, just looking for confirmation. Much of their info is still NOT for the 1.2 but for the old one, which does not support Thermocoupler.Quote
bobc
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dintid
@arthurwolf
Is the Smoothieboard 2going to have naitive support for Thermocouplers and/or PT100?
Can the current Smoothieboard handle Thermocouplers without an external amplifier?
Am a bit confused about this, as your documenation states we need an amplifier, but the chinese says I do not need one for their Sbase 1.2 board (and since they are copying yours I'm getting confused)
Note: My question is not about how Thermocouplers or PT100 sensors, nor their respecive amplifiers Works, but wheter or not the Controller boards have build in amplifiers or not (need to state this based on previous experiences)
It's clear from the schematic for SBASE 1.2 that it does not have onboard support for thermocouples. I've learnt to always take the Chinese statements as "25% true", together with translation issues (thermistor vs thermocouple), they are always eager to make a sale, and are more inclined to say "sure, we can do that!" rather than "don't know".
Especially since they write the pins for Thermocoupler is a NEW feature of 1.2 - see attached image.
He even told me it was build in and I did not need an extra amplifier, when I wrote to him. He actually initially said I needed an amplifier (and pointed to the right one for smoothieware), but then retracted and said 1.2 did not need it.
Try looking at the attached image in the upper right corner, where they write Thermocoupler as well.
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Edited: had placed images/texts in a confusing way.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/18/2016 06:01AM by dintid.
My Instructables - both total newbie instructables and some for intermediate users.
My Designs on Thingiverse
YouTube channel containing a few 3D printing videos - they are videos for my Instructables, and mostly not standalone.
Ultius / Tantillus Thingiverse Group
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