Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 07, 2016 05:04PM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 08, 2016 02:31PM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 08, 2016 03:21PM |
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I still haven't tried Octofab yet, but I fully intend to this weekend. I am happy to report my SBASE has been rock solid since I fixed the Ethernet bug.
On another note, I've been intrigued enough to order a Duet too. I found a good deal on v0.6, there's a guy in Canada who has a surplus of them that were custom made for some project. According to the listing they are assembled with high spec passives, 2oz copper, EING plating, etc. He's selling them on ebay for $65 USD shipped so I figured what the heck.
Now to start understating what the different forks of firmware offer...
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 08, 2016 06:31PM |
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I see it but there is supposed to be a big difference between the two versions only I can't remember what it is now. I think it was described to me earlier in this thread so off I go look.Quote
w3drk
I still haven't tried Octofab yet, but I fully intend to this weekend. I am happy to report my SBASE has been rock solid since I fixed the Ethernet bug.
On another note, I've been intrigued enough to order a Duet too. I found a good deal on v0.6, there's a guy in Canada who has a surplus of them that were custom made for some project. According to the listing they are assembled with high spec passives, 2oz copper, EING plating, etc. He's selling them on ebay for $65 USD shipped so I figured what the heck.
Now to start understating what the different forks of firmware offer...
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 08, 2016 07:02PM |
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I see it but there is supposed to be a big difference between the two versions only I can't remember what it is now. I think it was described to me earlier in this thread so off I go look.Quote
w3drk
I still haven't tried Octofab yet, but I fully intend to this weekend. I am happy to report my SBASE has been rock solid since I fixed the Ethernet bug.
On another note, I've been intrigued enough to order a Duet too. I found a good deal on v0.6, there's a guy in Canada who has a surplus of them that were custom made for some project. According to the listing they are assembled with high spec passives, 2oz copper, EING plating, etc. He's selling them on ebay for $65 USD shipped so I figured what the heck.
Now to start understating what the different forks of firmware offer...
edit: Nope, didn't spot it but there is a big difference between them (and I Googled and the difference I spotted was 4 vs 5 motors so only a single extruder with 0.6) and on eBay that CA seller US $63.99 Buy It Now Shipping: approx. US $3.56
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 09, 2016 12:29AM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 09, 2016 02:50AM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 09, 2016 01:48PM |
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Sbase has uart? I just find Nextion lcd [www.indiegogo.com] and I thought to myself can I connect to sbase, and if yes than how?
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 11, 2016 04:55AM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 08:53AM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 11:17AM |
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Another to consider is how bitchy the open hardware community is if some poor soul goes out trying to find a fix. Do NOT bring up this board on the irc channel or you will want to murder a lot of people as they will bitch you out and flat out tell you to go eff yourself as they will not help you with this board since it is closed source and is not good for the open source/hardware/reprap community.Quote
w3drk
So, the 2nd SBASE provided by the eBay seller arrived yesterday. Other than the package looking like my mailman sat it on it, the board itself looks as nice as the first. No signs of anyone bodging around the resonator, but there's a 1 meg resistor in place of where load caps would normally be just like my first board. It appears to be a production thing since it doesn't look hand soldered like to3dornottobe's copy.
I haven't had a chance to do any thorough testing yet, but I did power it up and try the LAN connection to see what happens. Just like my first board it doesn't connect on the first try...only a rapidly blinking LED and nearly 100% packet loss. But after disconnecting and reconnecting the Ethernet cable a few times it finally managed to connect to my switch and began working. So it has the exact same problem as my first board which means the MKS SBASE is now 0 and 2 with me. Or 0 and 3 if you include to3dornottobe's copy. Not good for Makerbase...hopefully they're not selling a lot of these or there will be a ton of disappointed customers! I wonder why the earlier boards mentioned in this topic didn't exhibit this problem? LOL maybe Arthur should offer a trade-up program for the Real McCoy? ;-)
Anyway, my plan with this board is to document the rework in-case anyone else needs to "fix" their SBASE so it works properly.
In the meantime I'm awaiting my Canadian Duet to arrive so I can get familiar with that, and I also have a CRAMPS board on the way so I can also get some exposure to Machinekit/LinuxCNC. I already have a BeagleBoneBlack and have the latest Machinekit image installed, updated, and running. So, lots of exciting stuff to learn.
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 02:19PM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 03:06PM |
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Another to consider is how bitchy the open hardware community is if some poor soul goes out trying to find a fix. Do NOT bring up this board on the irc channel or you will want to murder a lot of people as they will bitch you out and flat out tell you to go eff yourself as they will not help you with this board
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 04:05PM |
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Well, not you but one of them because that irc channel has become a smoothie barker channel. All things smoothie it seems and I will say you (as in a broad sense not you directly) didn't "probably" tell me that it wasn't open source I actually felt screamed at when I brought it up by ccecil. I was strictly told I would get no support on the channel, or even discussion, about that board since it does not support the open community. Going in there to even discuss Ramps I keep getting a sense that it is antiquated and I am even told to get a smoothie. Every single time I see anyone bring up any hardware I see someone, or a lot of someones, say "get a smoothie". That irc channel is not supposed to be a personal Smoothie barker channel. Smoothie has its own channel for stuff like that but irc is not what it used to be and this elitism trait that is in there is bad. I don't care if the elitists all come on here and defend it but many left that channel due to it. Many posts, and replies, at how bad it has become.Quote
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Another to consider is how bitchy the open hardware community is if some poor soul goes out trying to find a fix. Do NOT bring up this board on the irc channel or you will want to murder a lot of people as they will bitch you out and flat out tell you to go eff yourself as they will not help you with this board
That is most definitely not true. We would never tell somebody to go eff themselves for having a MKS board, and we would most likely help that person.
We would *probably* make them aware that the board is not open-source and that they should *also* ask the seller for help. And you know why we say that to people ? Because we've met *many* people that are *not aware* that the MKS SBASE is not open-source ! And they are glad we told them when they discover it isn't. This is important information to some persons !
I looked for your nick in the Smoothieware IRC channel, and didn't find any place where you got received the way you described. Maybe you were using another nick ?
Please provide me with a nickname and an approximate time so I can evaluate your claim that people get "told to go eff themselves".
Thank you.
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 04:17PM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 04:20PM |
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No, Arthur not the actual smoothieware channel because when I go in there I expect to only talk about smoothie (hence the channel name). The #reprap is a mean mean place over the last few years and sorry I didn't say the actual channel name as the #smoothieware is a lot better of a channel in my opinion but I haven't been in there in maybe a year so my info about it is stale at best though I don't think the actual users in there have and that is a good thing because the last time I was in there it felt like the old #reprap circa 2010-2012.Quote
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I'm sorry I thought you were talking about the Smoothieware channel, not the reprap channel ...
Smoothie sure has it's supporters in there ( #reprap ), and it's a place where a lot of debate happens, but you'll also find people there that find that Smoothie is crap, or that MKS SBASE is awesome, or that Open-Source doesn't matter.
It's also full of trolls. But all of the internet is really.
Just getting upset because somebody disagreed with you on a 500-persons IRC channel doesn't sound reasonable. You could have come at another time and found people that would have agreed with you.
I still can't find the discution you are referring to. I searched, case-insensitively, for "DarkAlchemist", "MKS SBASE", "MKS", and "SBASE", and found no conversation last week.
There was one yesterday, and one at the end of december, but nothing in between.
Could you please give me either a date, or your nick on the channel ( that'd be the most useful ), or some specific word that was said ? I really want to locate that conversation.
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 14, 2016 04:24PM |
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As I said above SBASE and spelled like that. Doesn't really matter because #reprap is a dead irc channel. It once was really great but it has a few bad things happen to it. The old timers left with their knowledge and newer thugs took over. It has a lot of people who think they know what they are talking about but really are just bags of wind. It has elitists and rich boy types where if it isn't a Bugatti then it is junk. People today do not even know what IRC is so the pool of brains out there isn't on the IRC in a great number.Quote
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I've been grepping the #reprap logs for the past month and can't find the discution you described this way : « Do NOT bring up this board on the irc channel or you will want to murder a lot of people as they will bitch you out and flat out tell you to go eff yourself as they will not help you with this board since it is closed source and is not good for the open source/hardware/reprap community. »
Do you remember what nick you were using, or the date, or the some specific word that was used ( "mks" and "sbase" didn't yield any discution looking anything like what you mention ) ?
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 15, 2016 03:27PM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 15, 2016 03:47PM |
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I did get frustrated/angry with SBASE. Seller is probably as stubborn as I am, though i am capable of admitting my own flaws, squeaks, beeps quirks and errors.. He refused to offer help. (other than the option to solder the parts in myself). It took a a negative review before he admitted he was wrong. Too bad it had to come that far.
@Arthurwolf; To what email can i donate a contribution for using your guys' technology? least i can do IMO.
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 15, 2016 07:53PM |
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Yep, as I said Smoothie is damn awesome and the support is even better. I did find out that the 3 stepper isn't really made and the 4 isn't available in the states right now. So, 5 or nothing and I chose nothing because of the steep price.Quote
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I did get frustrated/angry with SBASE. Seller is probably as stubborn as I am, though i am capable of admitting my own flaws, squeaks, beeps quirks and errors.. He refused to offer help. (other than the option to solder the parts in myself). It took a a negative review before he admitted he was wrong. Too bad it had to come that far.
@Arthurwolf; To what email can i donate a contribution for using your guys' technology? least i can do IMO.
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 18, 2016 11:20AM |
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Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 18, 2016 11:39AM |
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Kind of off topic, but since I mentioned it earlier--my "Canadian Duet" arrived on Saturday. The timing was perfect because I had a 6-hour print lock-up about 1/4 of the way through (printing from SD) twice in a row, so I got frustrated with the SBASE and swapped it out for the Duet to try it out.
First impressions are the build quality is flawless, and I'm really liking the web based interface. My only complaints are I'm not a big fan of the connector layout, at least on v0.6, and I miss having a PID auto-tune feature. But neither are a big deal and more preference then problems. I did replace the header pins for the extruder heater connection with a screw terminal block though.
Anyway, I have a hunch the SBASE freezing could have been the el-cheapo 1GB microSD that came with it. It formats and tests OK, but I'd like to retry the print with a known quality microSD. The exact same gcode file (except for extruder/bed temperature and retraction length) that locked up the SBASE printed fine on my Prusa i3 w/MKS-GEN 2Z running Repetier-firmware.
Re: New MKS SBASE Smoothieware-compatible board from China January 18, 2016 11:45AM |
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