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Printable BLDC Motors

Posted by aka47 
Printable BLDC Motors
February 25, 2010 07:39PM
Ok

I have been musing on this one for some time. Having bought a outrunner type BLDC and stripped it down to have a look at it, I was quite amazed at how simple they are.

Arguably more simple than a brushed DC motor.

Perhaps even simple enough to print......


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Re: Printable BLDC Motors
March 02, 2010 07:28PM
BLDCs are basically permanent magnet AC synchronous motors with a trapezoidal current profile rather than sinusoidal- in the few where this aspect has been given any attention.

They closely resemble stepper motors with maybe 12 steps per rev, and 3 coils in a delta or wye configuration instead of two separates.


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Re: Printable BLDC Motors
March 03, 2010 03:38PM
Yup, sort of.

Certainly close enough for the purposes at hand. Given that they are mechanically simpler than a stepper though (as you pointed out less poles) they should be easier to make.

Particulalry the out-runner style.

I have a cheapish one I bought in to dismantle and there is very little to them electro/mechanically.

Certainly the plastics are printable and the out-runner could be made from cheap steel pipe section.

The benefits of the out-runner are that they generate more torque and the magnets are constrained against centrifugal force by the steel pipe section.

Minaturisation is'nt really an issue for what we are trying to achieve motors that are of a reasonable size with good torque are what we want.


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Re: Printable BLDC Motors
April 16, 2010 10:04AM
you can avoid using magnets . you can avoud using any steel or ferro. The price is bad torque. All you neeed is (copper) wire and plastic (printable) frames.

It is good idea to make one!

Rotor and stator will both consist of wire coils. Wire on plastic frame. That is all. So we need brushes to power rotor. Brushes may be commutating (usual DC) or not commutating (just two rings) - but at this case you need smart controller to swith fazes.
Re: Printable BLDC Motors
April 16, 2010 10:33AM
First thing you could print is a small handy reel machine to make coils.
Re: Printable BLDC Motors
April 16, 2010 01:03PM
Yes I have been thinking about coil formers and counters that I could put on my mini-lathe.

The weak part of DC motors (or universal motors) is the brushes. I guess this is specificaly why I was thinking along the lines of BLDC's ie, Brushless DC. Alignment, metarials and reliability are all issues with brushed motors.

Electronic commutation is reliable, fast and has a side benefit of producing a useful degree of position & speed sensing.

Copper these days is expensive, steel is cheap and permanent magnets are farily common.


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Re: Printable BLDC Motors
July 01, 2010 01:46AM
Hi All,

I started a wiki review article on Actuator Fabrication that you might be interested in:
[www.reprap.org]

Many of you will be familiar with most of the information, but I would wager that even the most grizzled old replicators among you might find something new.

Please visit and add your own contributions!

-Matt
Re: Printable BLDC Motors
July 01, 2010 03:11AM
Nice bit of work, Matt, and nice body of work. grinning smiley

... You realize that now I'm going to have to set aside a few hours and read all this stuff. drinking smiley


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Remember, you're all RepRap developers (once you've joined the super-secret developer mailing list), and the wiki, RepRap.org, [reprap.org] is for everyone and everything! grinning smiley
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