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Delta slow speed - DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE <= 65.0 mm/s

Posted by asrt 
Delta slow speed - DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE <= 65.0 mm/s
May 16, 2017 06:53AM
Hello.
I finished building my first delta printer.

I have problems with proper calibration (jerk, acceleration, speed).

Printer can print with acceleration = 20000 and jerk = 60 (I haven't checked higher values).
But when DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE is higher than 65mm/s effector randomly starts to slows down and stalling, but motors don't lose any step (there is no layer shifting).
Movie while printing:
[www.youtube.com]

This is configuration from movie print:
#define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT   {376.47, 376.47, 376.47, 191.72}
#define DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE          {100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0}    // (mm/sec)
#define DEFAULT_MAX_ACCELERATION      {9000,9000,9000,9000}    // X, Y, Z, E maximum start speed for accelerated moves. E default values are good for skeinforge 40+, for older versions raise them a lot.

#define DEFAULT_ACCELERATION          3000    // X, Y, Z and E max acceleration in mm/s^2 for printing moves
#define DEFAULT_RETRACT_ACCELERATION  3000   // X, Y, Z and E max acceleration in mm/s^2 for retracts
// The speed change that does not require acceleration (i.e. the software might assume it can be done instantaneously)
#define DEFAULT_XYJERK                20.0    // (mm/sec)
#define DEFAULT_ZJERK                 20.0    // (mm/sec)
#define DEFAULT_EJERK                 20.0    // (mm/sec)

Printer Hardware:
- Smart LCD Controller (4x20) with SD [ gcode files served by SDcard ]
- Arduino Mega R3 [ powered by voltage stepper down ]
- RAMPS 1.4 [ 1/32 micro-step - all jumpers inserted ]
- DRV8825 Stepper Motor Driver [ 0.60 Vref ]
- 42byghm809 [ 1.7A(U) 0.9deg/step - Wantai Stepper Motor ]
- 24V 17A Power supply

Software:
- Marlin 1.0

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/16/2017 07:11AM by asrt.
Re: Delta slow speed - DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE <= 65.0 mm/s
May 16, 2017 11:09AM
Maybe segment buffer underflow. Try to lower segments per second to 90. Also if it is possible to lower LCD refresh rate then try that too.
Re: Delta slow speed - DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE <= 65.0 mm/s
May 16, 2017 11:14AM
he is also doing 4 times the microstepping than is normal so that won't help either CPU is probably bogging down under the strain
Re: Delta slow speed - DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE <= 65.0 mm/s
May 16, 2017 11:34AM
Thanks for quick response.
I found line in ultralcd.h
#define LCD_UPDATE_INTERVAL 100
and changed to 5000 ms (5s).
I also:
- left only jumpers at MS3 pinouts (1/16 micro-stepping).
- recalculate steps/mm
- changed max feedrate to 200.00
Manual movements G1 with F12000 seams to work fine.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/17/2017 03:10AM by asrt.
Re: Delta slow speed - DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE <= 65.0 mm/s
May 16, 2017 12:31PM
Now I have problem with homing all (G28 command).
Its way to fast than maximum feedrate 200mm/s (12000mm/min).
So when I manually go from Z0 to Z307 (G1Z307F12000) everything works fine.
But when I type G28 then speed is much faster, and sometimes one motor stall.
I almost destroy my effector because it went too far from center while G28 eye rolling smiley
Is there any way to adjust max homing speed ?

---edit---
I found #define HOMING_FEEDRATE in Configuration.h.
For safety i cheange this to {9000, 9000, 9000, 0}.

Thank you all for helping me with troubleshooting.

Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 05/17/2017 05:42AM by asrt.
Re: Delta slow speed - DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE <= 65.0 mm/s
May 20, 2017 02:04AM
It seems as though a lot of values you have quoted here are very high. 20000 acceleration? That's astronomically high! Try 3000. Homing feedrate 9000? I use 2500, and I have a large, rigid, fast delta. Ramps can go reasonably fast using repetier but marlin struggles on delta with 1/32 microstepping.

It's nice to have high travel speed when printing I. E. 150mm/s but you won't be able to lay filament down accurately much above 100 mm/s and as for other movements what do you gain from going that fast?

Start slow and gradually increase speed as your machine proves itself. You wouldn't build a fast car and go for a top speed run as its first outing.

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/20/2017 02:14AM by DjDemonD.


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