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Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.

Posted by Lobotomy 
Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
February 28, 2018 05:51AM
Since it appears that most documentation, resources, and FAQs on this piece of hardware are currently down, as far as I can tell, I'm mostly playing this installation by ear. I have everything wired up nicely, save for fans. I turn on the printer, and the PCB effector flashes green twice. Good to know it turns on, at least. This thing is really sharp, David. You truly are a godsend to the Delta Printer.

Now, here is my list of issues getting it working.

- M119 output shows that the Z-Probe is at Min Stop. That's probably due to the fact that my old Z-probe was a microswitch, I'm sure, but what parameters would I use for this kind of probe? I'm actually not even sure I understand quite HOW Z-probing works with this strange effector thing to begin with! Tapping the e3D v6 nozzle with my finger hard enough will cause the light to flash, but I'm wondering what kind of special configuration this thing will need.

- The probe doesn't seem too sensitive to low speed impact, is that good or bad? When I say that, I mean tapping kind of lightly on the hotend from the bottom.

- The thermistor is outputting some absurdly high temp, like, fluctuating between 800 and 900C. My thermistor is just your standard 100k thermistor, and I did put it through the board, instead of directly to the RADDS. Pretty confusing. I see in the wiring diagram on Duet3d.com that there's a jumper for two and four wire thermistors. I've never even heard of a four wire thermistor? Should I jump it?

- I really, REALLY, don't want a head crash on this thing, I'm scared to death of it. Does anyone have any pointers on how to avoid that when I go to initially test the probe? I can hear the sound of the PCB cracking in my head.

- Is there any special bed leveling routine I need for this, or should I just have it probe the same points as a standard one?

- Since the nozzle is indeed my Z-probe, would that mean that my probe offsets would be 0?

- Just HOW do I attach the spirit level to this thing? I don't see any mounts in this kit, and the underside of the level doesn't really lend itself to being fixed to anything.
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
February 28, 2018 06:02AM
The documentation is at [duet3d.dozuki.com] and it's working for me. Let us know if you can't find what you need there. Some specific answers:

- Use P8 in your M558 command if your firmware version supports P8, or P5 if not
- With the nozzle far above the bed and the printer homed, send G30. Tap the nozzle from below and it should stop. Turn off power to the printer if it doesn't. Re-home the printer after testing with G30 like this.
- You can also reduce the stepper motor currents during testing to guard against head crashes
- If your thermistor was working OK when connected directly, and you haven't changed the configuration, it sounds like a wiring error or a short between the thermistor wires and the heater block. You can ignore the additional 2 temperature sensor pins and use just the middle two.
- The nozzle needs a sharp but not very hard tap upwards to make the sensor trigger. It won't respond to a gradual push.

Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2018 06:59AM by dc42.



Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod

Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
February 28, 2018 09:25PM
Yeah, that site appears to be down for me, but you gave me everything I needed to know, so I thank you for that.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/28/2018 09:47PM by Lobotomy.
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
March 01, 2018 03:37AM
The page opens for me. ( firefox quantum )

BTW: David, the picture of the carrier-PCB shows the robotdigg carrier. Some people might believe, they are part of the smart effector deal...
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
March 01, 2018 07:04AM
Thanks for the suggestion. I have added a note.



Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod

Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
March 01, 2018 11:31AM
I found out that it was actually my firewall. There's no https connection to dozuki.
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
March 01, 2018 12:20PM
I tried testing with G30 with no result. It does absolutely nothing, no movement at all. I tried G30 alone, G30 Z1, still nothing. I can't imagine I'm doing anything wrong?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2018 12:29PM by Lobotomy.
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
March 01, 2018 03:51PM
Did you home the printer first? Did you check the Gcode Console page of DWC for error messages?



Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod

Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
March 01, 2018 05:22PM
Yeah, I homed it first, no errors in the console. I have a PanelDue, so I use that and USB, instead of networking. No DWC for me! I noticed that inverting the Z-probe trigger (M558 I1) would send the head downward with G30, but I cannot stop it, despite the light flickering to touch.

Here's the my config.g:

; Configuration file for Duet 0.8.5 (firmware version 1.17 to 1.19)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; 

; General preferences
M550 PCyberDelta Plus 2187 V3.0 ; Machine name
M111 S0 ; Debugging off
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
M575 P1 B57600 S1					; Comms parameters for PanelDue


;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
M665 R116 L288.12 B116 H225.9 X0 Y0; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height, as well as XY tower corrections
M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z

; Endstops/Probing
G31  P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1     ; Set Z-Probe Height and offsets.
M574 X2 Y2 Z2 E0 S1       ; All endstops at high end, Active high
M558 P5 R0.4 I1 H3 F1000 T1000       ;P = Z-Probe Type, 0 for none. I = inversion XYZ = use probe for homing axis. F = Feed Rate/Probing Speed. T = Travel Speed.
M557 R116 S20

; Drives
M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E80 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X1500 Y1500 Z1500 E1000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
;M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I60 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent, It probably isn't supported in RADDS.
M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

; Heaters
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S100 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 100C
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
M143 H1 S300 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
M570 H1 P30 T10 S120 ; Give more time to heat up
M302 P1 ; Allows for Cold Extrusion

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
;M563 S1 ; Allows for tool nomenclature compatibility between Slic3r and RepRap (Tools 0&1 vs Tools 1&2)

; Network
M552 S0 ; Disable network

; Fans
;Old M106 P0 S1 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
;This is old M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P0 S255 T60 H1 ; Hotend cooling fan: Enable to auto kick on at 60c (make it 'thermostatic'). 
M106 P1 H-1    ; Filament cooling fan: Must do H-1, or it'll turn on with P0 for some reason.
M106 P1 S0     ; Filament cooling fan: Must do, or it will go full blast on start


; Custom settings are not configured
M501
T0


And my bed.g:

; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
; 16 points, 7 factors, probing radius: 116, probe offset (0, 0)
G28
G30 P0 X0.00 Y116.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P1 X58.00 Y100.46 Z-99999 H0
G30 P2 X100.46 Y58.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P3 X116.00 Y0.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P4 X100.46 Y-58.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P5 X58.00 Y-100.46 Z-99999 H0
G30 P6 X0.00 Y-116.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P7 X-58.00 Y-100.46 Z-99999 H0
G30 P8 X-100.46 Y-58.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P9 X-116.00 Y-0.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P10 X-100.46 Y58.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P11 X-58.00 Y100.46 Z-99999 H0
G30 P12 X0.00 Y58.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P13 X50.23 Y-29.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P14 X-50.23 Y-29.00 Z-99999 H0
G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S7


I suppose it's also worth mentioning that my electronics are the RADDS 1.5 + Arduino Due, with RRF 1.21RC3, not that it should actually make a difference, right?

Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2018 03:39AM by Lobotomy.
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
July 15, 2018 07:32PM
I have spent several days reading the forums but have not found a solution to my problem. I have a TLM with Duet3d v2 and the Smart Effector. everything seemed to be working well, until about three days ago. The problem is I cannot get the Auto Delta Calibration to actually probe the bed. I will got through the motions but the probe a its lowest is 28mm or so above the bed. I have con through the commissioning many times with the same result. I have commented out M501. I have lowered the nozzle to just touch a .004 feeler gauge and set G92 Z0. The Z head position does go to 0. Regardless of what I set, the Auto Delta Calibrate never go to the bed. The system stops at Z0 which is always 28mm above the bed. I have reached the limit of my understanding (what little there was ). Please help..
I am attaching my config.g, and the bed.g files.
while it was working, I was getting very nice test prints with a 50micron layer. Then it all went to H....

config.g
bed.g
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
July 16, 2018 02:01AM
What does the console say if he tries to probe?
Whats the Height in the config-override? It could be that you had one bad probe and the print height in the override is too small. So he never touches the bed
Re: Need help setting up Delta Smart Effector in RRF.
July 16, 2018 02:48AM
It sounds like the H parameter in your M665 command in config.g or config-override.g is set about 28mm too low.



Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod

Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
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