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Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?

Posted by floville 
Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
October 23, 2014 06:36AM
Hi,

anyone have this delta heatbed with carbon surface and can tell practical experience about it?

Thanks and regards,

Florian
Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
October 23, 2014 12:49PM
The only mention I saw about having a CF surface is for people running heated beds printing PLA. I have not seen it used for ABS. I would be worried about the stability of the resin at the higher temps for CF. Maybe my worries are unfounded, maybe not.


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Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
October 23, 2014 02:32PM
I tried it and rarely use it now (not that exact one but a carbon fibre plate from the same supplier). With PLA and PETG I find adhesion not as good as glass.
For a Kossel mini this seems a good option:
[blog.think3dprint3d.com]
I don't see a price though.

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Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 21, 2015 04:36AM
I know, this thread is a bit cold already, but I stumbled across it, when searching for carbon fibre heater

I´ve learned that carbon ( graphite ) is electrically conductive. Could we build a carbonfibre heater, where the current goes through the carbon plate?
It would be stiff and light and cheaper than some silicone heaters... The surface is very flat and "glassy", too
All we need is a way to adapt it to the PSU. Aluminum profiles one two sides to connect it to the PSU? The carbon on these sides would have to be free of resin.
To get a better conduction between aluminum and carbon,we could use conductive grease. ( I´ve used it frequently in the past, when I designed batteries for electric race-cars.)# attached a pic from good old times, when we believed in the electric car revolution sad smiley
-Olaf

One remark to the Mini Kossel heatbed...they use a 10A laptop PSU for a 10A Kapton heater? eye popping smiley
I would like to have a little headroom in the power capacity of my PSU. ( You don´t drive full throttle all day long, right? )
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Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 21, 2015 01:47PM
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( I´ve used it frequently in the past, when I designed batteries for electric race-cars.)# attached a pic from good old times, when we believed in the electric car revolution sad smiley

For what it's worth, I always thought that the Lotus 7 (Caterham) design would make a good platform for a DIY electric car.....
Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 22, 2015 04:03AM
It was not the only Lotus we made electric:
[www.google.de]
[www.youtube.com]

Sorry for OT
Olaf
Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 22, 2015 05:56AM
Wow! It looks like the guy from Lotus intends to build a better Tesla Roadster than Elon Musk! I hope that he can actually pull off the complete production run that he plans.....
Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 22, 2015 06:20AM
To be honest, the guys from ECE (Electric Cars Europe) had built their electric Lotus Elise long before Tesla... but now everyone thinks, it´s just a copy of the tesla... Sad Story
-Olaf
wt
Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 22, 2015 11:16AM
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( I´ve used it frequently in the past, when I designed batteries for electric race-cars.)# attached a pic from good old times, when we believed in the electric car revolution sad smiley

For what it's worth, I always thought that the Lotus 7 (Caterham) design would make a good platform for a DIY electric car.....

Still OT, but Tiger (another "se7enesque" kit car manufacturer) did an electric conversion as a one-off about 15 years ago. It was very quiet, but you got all the bumps and creaks straight through rather than masked behind engine noise. Having said that, I find the same when I don't use earplugs, so I guess it's something you'd get used to.

The other problem is that a se7en is generally considered invisible by most other road users, so one that's silent would be a nightmare...
Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 22, 2015 11:52AM
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The other problem is that a se7en is generally considered invisible by most other road users, so one that's silent would be a nightmare...

Loud pipes saves lives grinning smiley
You are right, the creaking bodywork was a little drawback. But when you hear the tyres scream without any engine noise, it is a heartstopper eye popping smiley

The company that provided us with the se7en Frames and bodywork, also has models with 1000cc or 1300cc engines from motorbikes installed.
http://www.haselier.nl/
And they were really loud compared to the more moderat Ford Escort engines, some other brands use to install.
-Olaf

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Re: Heatbed Kit with Carbon Fibre surface - practical experiences?
June 23, 2015 12:36PM
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o_lampe
Loud pipes saves lives grinning smiley
You are right, the creaking bodywork was a little drawback. But when you hear the tyres scream without any engine noise, it is a heartstopper eye popping smiley

Loud pipes do not save lives. Intelligent driving and situational awareness save lives.

Exhaust notes tend to echo and reflect badly enough that at best, they make someone aware that you're in the vicinity-- assuming their car isn't soundproofed they wouldn't hear a twin-engine jet landing on their roof.

Adding beeps/whistles/other noises to EV's in the name of "safety" is just idiotic. Teaching people to be responsible and look both ways before crossing is much more likely to reduce pedestrian deaths.

As for the blind, it would be easier, and more economical, to provide them with some form of sensor capable of warning them of any fast moving object-- car, bicycle, skateboard, dog, sprinter, etc.

er... wait... 3D printing. that's right. I'll put my soapbox back now. winking smiley
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