Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 09:02PM |
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davidf01
I have Repetier loaded on my computer. I think I should see what it takes to use that. Should I be able to just plug in the settings I use in pronterface right into Repetier and get pretty close to the same results?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 09:44PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 09:51PM |
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jbman
Hi guys,
I have just finished putting together my Kossel Delta and I have tried to start the calibration.
I have tried several of the configuration.h files/ builds Marlin & Repetier in this thread, but every time i try to home (G28) only the Z will go to the stop and the other 2 axis don't move.
I have tried the other stepper motors on the Z- plug on the RAMPS and they work.
I have tried to move the steppers after the Z hits home and the X is powered, but not moving.
I have adjusted the X,Y,Z drivers for 350 mV and moved them to the Z plug and they work.
I have tried manual movement and only the Z stepper moves.
Do I need a new RAMPS board?
Thanks Jack
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 10:55PM |
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paul_delta
Load test code instead of firmware:
[reprap.org]
PS: hope you don't switch motors when everything powered on
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jbman
Hi guys,
I have just finished putting together my Kossel Delta and I have tried to start the calibration.
I have tried several of the configuration.h files/ builds Marlin & Repetier in this thread, but every time i try to home (G28) only the Z will go to the stop and the other 2 axis don't move.
I have tried the other stepper motors on the Z- plug on the RAMPS and they work.
I have tried to move the steppers after the Z hits home and the X is powered, but not moving.
I have adjusted the X,Y,Z drivers for 350 mV and moved them to the Z plug and they work.
I have tried manual movement and only the Z stepper moves.
Do I need a new RAMPS board?
Thanks Jack
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 11:07PM |
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jbman
I tried the test software. X & Y are not working.
Swapped stepper motors - X & Y work
Swapped drivers X & Y to Z and E, Z & E still work - dirvers ok
It appears to be the X & Y channel on the RAMPS - The X powers and holds location, the Y doesn't power.
I'm thinking it's the RAMPS board, do you think I should get a Mega also?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 11:12PM |
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I tried the test software. X & Y are not working.
Swapped stepper motors - X & Y work
Swapped drivers X & Y to Z and E, Z & E still work - dirvers ok
It appears to be the X & Y channel on the RAMPS - The X powers and holds location, the Y doesn't power.
I'm thinking it's the RAMPS board, do you think I should get a Mega also?
I saw some people had bad contact problem with RAPMS-Mega. Just in case - inspect the connectors between boards and the soldering quality. Try to connect-disconnect boards couple of times.
Is this Folgertech kit?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 11:17PM |
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jbman
I did see that some people had that issue. I have connected-disconnected the Mega and Ramps a few times. The RAMPS did have some solder quality issues near the connectors, I cleaned it up the best I could. no improvement.
It is a Folger Tech Kossel 2020 kit.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 11:33PM |
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jbman
I tried the test software. X & Y are not working.
Swapped stepper motors - X & Y work
Swapped drivers X & Y to Z and E, Z & E still work - dirvers ok
It appears to be the X & Y channel on the RAMPS - The X powers and holds location, the Y doesn't power.
I'm thinking it's the RAMPS board, do you think I should get a Mega also?
I saw some people had bad contact problem with RAPMS-Mega. Just in case - inspect the connectors between boards and the soldering quality. Try to connect-disconnect boards couple of times.
Is this Folgertech kit?
I did see that some people had that issue. I have connected-disconnected the Mega and Ramps a few times. The RAMPS did have some solder quality issues near the connectors, I cleaned it up the best I could. no improvement.
It is a Folger Tech Kossel 2020 kit.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 23, 2015 11:43PM |
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paul_delta
PS: probably you did it already, but just in case... check 3 jumpers under driver boards.
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jbman
I tried the test software. X & Y are not working.
Swapped stepper motors - X & Y work
Swapped drivers X & Y to Z and E, Z & E still work - dirvers ok
It appears to be the X & Y channel on the RAMPS - The X powers and holds location, the Y doesn't power.
I'm thinking it's the RAMPS board, do you think I should get a Mega also?
I saw some people had bad contact problem with RAPMS-Mega. Just in case - inspect the connectors between boards and the soldering quality. Try to connect-disconnect boards couple of times.
Is this Folgertech kit?
I did see that some people had that issue. I have connected-disconnected the Mega and Ramps a few times. The RAMPS did have some solder quality issues near the connectors, I cleaned it up the best I could. no improvement.
It is a Folger Tech Kossel 2020 kit.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 24, 2015 01:29AM |
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Yes, just find in firmware configuration file something like:
#define DELTA_DIAGONAL_CORRECTION_A 0
#define DELTA_DIAGONAL_CORRECTION_B 0
#define DELTA_DIAGONAL_CORRECTION_C 0
Well this could be a problem. I don't seem to have anything like that for each tower. I only have one setting that I assume applies to all the diagonal rod corrections.
This is one of reasons why I switched to Repetier. Everything is configurable via GUI Host like 1-2-3.
I have Repetier loaded on my computer. I think I should see what it takes to use that. Should I be able to just plug in the settings I use in pronterface right into Repetier and get pretty close to the same results?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 24, 2015 11:30AM |
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paul_delta
Yes, just find in firmware configuration file something like:
#define DELTA_DIAGONAL_CORRECTION_A 0
#define DELTA_DIAGONAL_CORRECTION_B 0
#define DELTA_DIAGONAL_CORRECTION_C 0
Well this could be a problem. I don't seem to have anything like that for each tower. I only have one setting that I assume applies to all the diagonal rod corrections.
This is one of reasons why I switched to Repetier. Everything is configurable via GUI Host like 1-2-3.
I have Repetier loaded on my computer. I think I should see what it takes to use that. Should I be able to just plug in the settings I use in pronterface right into Repetier and get pretty close to the same results?
You can edit the Marlin you have with the instructions from this page or you can switch to a newer version of Marlin where this function is already incorporated if you still wish to use Marlin.
However a switch to repetier for a delta might be a good idea as repetier seems to perform slightly better for this platform, achieving higher speeds than with Marlin or not as prone to give you trouble if you add a screen to your printer.
I'd recommend a 32bit electronics upgrade for a delta.
The due + radds seems to be a good option at the time if you want to test/run different firmwares on your printer as RRF, Marlin and Repetier seems to have ports to this platform.
I bought a duet which is nice but it is only able to run the RRF-firmware at the moment.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 24, 2015 11:36AM |
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davidf01
I'm going to look into upgrading to Repetier but I'm not sure what I need to do as far as firmware goes. I have repetier host installed and it connects to my printer
but I'm still use the firmware that I have been using. I would like to check and see what version of Marlin I'm using but I'm not sure where to check for the version number.
Where do I find that information?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 24, 2015 11:58AM |
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I'm going to look into upgrading to Repetier but I'm not sure what I need to do as far as firmware goes. I have repetier host installed and it connects to my printer
but I'm still use the firmware that I have been using. I would like to check and see what version of Marlin I'm using but I'm not sure where to check for the version number.
Where do I find that information?
If you are using the Folgertech Marlin then it is a version of a really old 1.0. All of the items you are referencing are already inserted into the repo here, it may be a bit older at this point, but it's still a valid working install that has all of the features available.
Thevisad
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 24, 2015 06:15PM |
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davidf01
Thevisad, I check it ou and it seems to have more to it then the version I'm using. So what is the best way to get my current settings into the newer version? There seems to be a lot that is different.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 26, 2015 07:50PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 26, 2015 09:56PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 26, 2015 10:18PM |
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Rattfink
Hello Everyone
I am in the process of replacing my steppers and some other stuff - when i was testing the movement of the new motors there's still a herky motion when it's moving towards the build plate. I've linked a video HERE
When i re-home the little pauses are not there.. this happened with my old motors too.. do any of you have any ideas? it would leave the drivers and the board doing bad things or just nudged out of proper tuning or something. Any help would be appreciated!
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 26, 2015 10:27PM |
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wrangellboy
Do your carriages run smooth if you disconnect them from the rods? Do all 3 motors jerk at the same time? If it's all 3 it seems most likely to be a software issue. If it's just one you can focus in on that tower, do things run smooth, is the stepper underpowered?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 26, 2015 10:46PM |
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Do your carriages run smooth if you disconnect them from the rods? Do all 3 motors jerk at the same time? If it's all 3 it seems most likely to be a software issue. If it's just one you can focus in on that tower, do things run smooth, is the stepper underpowered?
Good tips - When disconnecting all three belts and running i do get the slight pauses in all the steppers - I will check on the voltage to see when i am less tired - what do you recommend they be at? I know that when i originally set this up with the folgertech manual i think that i had to adjust the extruder motor to get it to stop skipping. dont think that i adjusted the voltages any higher on the tower steppers (and now they're new nema 17s from Automation Technologies)
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 27, 2015 07:19PM |
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wrangellboy
I'm running a duet now which uses different numbers, but if I remember right somewhere around .3v for the stock steppers. I also upgraded mine and could run the more powerful steppers up to about .5. I never tried the minimum before it skips thing, if they're missing steps, turn them up, if they're too hot (60c is my top) turn them down...
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 30, 2015 06:21PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 31, 2015 01:25AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 31, 2015 09:07AM |
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freeflykid
I then tried to print a cap for a gopro, another simple piece, and I got the same thing, although it only happened once, but was for more like 30 seconds this time. the first time if happened I canceled the print. Tried to run it again, and it did it again, so I let it go. It finished the print.
Is this an issue with the file being created using Slic3r, or is could it be a settings things, or some thing with my stepper motors. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 31, 2015 09:57AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 31, 2015 10:07AM |
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freeflykid
I did try another print using an SD card, and that print ran fine. It was a different file, but similar. I am going to do a few more test runs tomorrow just using the SD card to see if it continues to run smooth. I will also try to lower the speed for the port settings, and see if It will run from my computer. If I run into issues again I will look into the fuses.
Dan
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 31, 2015 10:23AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 31, 2015 10:30AM |
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freeflykid
Yea I am currently using Pronterface & Marlin. I will try that. Where can I get the Repetier Firmware. Is it much different than using Marlin?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level October 31, 2015 10:34AM |
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