Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 06, 2015 09:58PM |
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[ERROR] Can't write to printer (disconnected?)(serialException): Write timeout
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 06, 2015 10:45PM |
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Hi.
No, I use the M3-8mm bolts. These 8mm bolts are the shortest ones.
But how many M3-8mm bolts are used up for the construction? Who can answer?
I need to know, in order to understand how many spare bolts of that type I have. Thanks. :-D
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 06, 2015 11:35PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 01:23AM |
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- Tim
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Ironically, you can see the gap due to the corners being extruded wrong in thier photos . . . for those of you whonhave read my thread on that topic . . .
The good news is that they finally got rid of the crap extruder block thatbate bearings!
And myself, having gotten my rails smooth with nothing more than ample lube and use, I'm not sure I see the wheels as anything other than a downgrade . . . and not having the linear rails bolted to the frame (9 places each) will likely reduce the overall rigidity of the frame.
- Tim
I have not read your post and I may very well end up with a set of the corners, is there a link that I missed?
And the bottom corners are splitframe rigidity is all depending on a few tiny bolts,by what I can see.
Well, making a few extra holes is not that hard I suppose and plates to cover the bottom rails would also help and look good too.
Cheers!
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 02:30AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 08:43AM |
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SD init fail simply means that there is no SD card inserted, and isn't really an error . . .
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Sounds like the 5V regulator on the Arduino is overloaded. It's a common problem with Arduino/RAMPS. There are workarounds that I have posted several times before, but that electronics is barely fast enough to run a delta anyway.
Edit :that was in reply to fattman's post at the end of the previous page.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 09:39AM |
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SD init fail simply means that there is no SD card inserted, and isn't really an error . . .
- Tim
What confuses me is the printer in it's stock form doesn't have an SD card slot- so why is it preventing me from using it without an SD card?
I had to connect the LCD screen that has an SD card slot, an item I paid extra for, before it would control the heating elements properly. If the machine is not functioning without aftermarket parts, I would call that a malfunction- there for it looking for something that doesn't exist an error.
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Sounds like the 5V regulator on the Arduino is overloaded. It's a common problem with Arduino/RAMPS. There are workarounds that I have posted several times before, but that electronics is barely fast enough to run a delta anyway.
Edit :that was in reply to fattman's post at the end of the previous page.
Good to know. I'm pretty sure it's due to that missing pin n AUX 4. I don't plan on running it without a PC anyway so it's not a Huge deal. I just don't know if that has anything related to why I can't fire any of my motors, or I get a timeout error when I do try to fire them.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 10:38AM |
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SD init fail simply means that there is no SD card inserted, and isn't really an error . . .
- Tim
What confuses me is the printer in it's stock form doesn't have an SD card slot- so why is it preventing me from using it without an SD card?
I had to connect the LCD screen that has an SD card slot, an item I paid extra for, before it would control the heating elements properly. If the machine is not functioning without aftermarket parts, I would call that a malfunction- there for it looking for something that doesn't exist an error.
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dc42
Sounds like the 5V regulator on the Arduino is overloaded. It's a common problem with Arduino/RAMPS. There are workarounds that I have posted several times before, but that electronics is barely fast enough to run a delta anyway.
Edit :that was in reply to fattman's post at the end of the previous page.
Good to know. I'm pretty sure it's due to that missing pin n AUX 4. I don't plan on running it without a PC anyway so it's not a Huge deal. I just don't know if that has anything related to why I can't fire any of my motors, or I get a timeout error when I do try to fire them.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 10:48AM |
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It isn't . . . the SD message is purely informational, and I see it all the time with zero impact. Your problem is something else, but as others noted, comment out SD_CARD_SUPPORT in Configration.h if it bugs you that much. No card in the slot vs. no slot at all look the same electrically . . .
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SD init fail simply means that there is no SD card inserted, and isn't really an error . . .
- Tim
What confuses me is the printer in it's stock form doesn't have an SD card slot- so why is it preventing me from using it without an SD card?
I had to connect the LCD screen that has an SD card slot, an item I paid extra for, before it would control the heating elements properly. If the machine is not functioning without aftermarket parts, I would call that a malfunction- there for it looking for something that doesn't exist an error.
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dc42
Sounds like the 5V regulator on the Arduino is overloaded. It's a common problem with Arduino/RAMPS. There are workarounds that I have posted several times before, but that electronics is barely fast enough to run a delta anyway.
Edit :that was in reply to fattman's post at the end of the previous page.
Good to know. I'm pretty sure it's due to that missing pin n AUX 4. I don't plan on running it without a PC anyway so it's not a Huge deal. I just don't know if that has anything related to why I can't fire any of my motors, or I get a timeout error when I do try to fire them.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 12:24PM |
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Hi.
No, I use the M3-8mm bolts. These 8mm bolts are the shortest ones.
But how many M3-8mm bolts are used up for the construction? Who can answer?
I need to know, in order to understand how many spare bolts of that type I have. Thanks. :-D
Each connector piece to extruded aluminum needs four bolts, and the bottom pieces are double tall. So you're looking at 36 for the main construction of the triangular frame.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 07, 2015 05:42PM |
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Sven.L
Hi.
No, I use the M3-8mm bolts. These 8mm bolts are the shortest ones.
But how many M3-8mm bolts are used up for the construction? Who can answer?
I need to know, in order to understand how many spare bolts of that type I have. Thanks. :-D
Each connector piece to extruded aluminum needs four bolts, and the bottom pieces are double tall. So you're looking at 36 for the main construction of the triangular frame.
FYI - SAVE ALL THOSE 8mm BOLTS FOR INSTALLING THE RAILS.
This was the part that got me - the directions say use the 8mm bolts for construction - but don't - use the 10mm ones and save the 8mm ones for installing the rails, otherwise you will have issues
I know this got me.
Mike
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 08, 2015 06:18AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 08, 2015 09:02AM |
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Surprising Discovery!
As I mentioned before, after mounting the aluminum extrusions of the top and bottom corner are still loose. Today, I glided them open carefully a bit, and found out to my bewilderness, that the t-nuts are firm and solidly fixed to the black plastic with their bolts. And still, the aluminum parts (on two of the three corners) are moving. HELP!
Even worse, I am still not able to move most of the bolts off again, as their hexagonal middle hole has widened through previous attempts. Do I have to accept now that I never will be able to firmly mount the aluminum parts to the black plastic? Would that be a problem? Or is it even supposed to be that way?
PS: thanks for the last postings. So I will try using the M3-10mm. IF the 8mm can be removed...
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 08, 2015 09:07PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 10:56AM |
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What is the slot size on the 2020 that Folger use? I'm thinking about getting me some sliding T-nuts.
Cheers!
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 11:04AM |
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What is the slot size on the 2020 that Folger use? I'm thinking about getting me some sliding T-nuts.
Cheers!
The same as every other 2020 out there, Misumi 2020 Extrusion All you need to do is search for 2020 t nuts and they will come up.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 11:17AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 11:24AM |
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To continue on the nut-track. If I understand this right M3 is used for the printer frame but the 2020 can take up to M6. Even M4 would be a substantial upgrade from M3. Is it possible to use larger dimensions then M3 for the frame corners?
Cheers!
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 11:29AM |
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To continue on the nut-track. If I understand this right M3 is used for the printer frame but the 2020 can take up to M6. Even M4 would be a substantial upgrade from M3. Is it possible to use larger dimensions then M3 for the frame corners?
Cheers!
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 11:34AM |
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To continue on the nut-track. If I understand this right M3 is used for the printer frame but the 2020 can take up to M6. Even M4 would be a substantial upgrade from M3. Is it possible to use larger dimensions then M3 for the frame corners?
Cheers!
Sure, as long as the nut fits inside the track below the slot. I think that will be your issue with larger bolts.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 02:49PM |
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To continue on the nut-track. If I understand this right M3 is used for the printer frame but the 2020 can take up to M6. Even M4 would be a substantial upgrade from M3. Is it possible to use larger dimensions then M3 for the frame corners?
Cheers!
Yes sir, I was just looking over the nut selection and you can use M3/M4/M5 screws on these ones from Misumi. These are the Misumi part numbers, the end number corresponds with the screw size. Stainless is cheaper then steel on these (28 vs 32.20), but these are still more expensive then these Chinese ones from eBay.
PACK-HNTTSN5-3
PACK-HNTTSN5-4
PACK-HNTTSN5-5
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 02:53PM |
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Thanks thevisad and llamatrails!
I'm leaning towards the roll-in type, they are more expensive but the ball and spring keeps them in place in the groove. Helps keep the blood pressure down.
Cheers!
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 03:45PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level August 09, 2015 04:29PM |
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What are the parts I need to exchange, if I want to increase the print area in all three axises? One is the aluminum extruders. Another one are the rods. What else? Thanks.