Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level June 29, 2016 10:58PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 02, 2016 10:00PM |
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I have been stuck on setting up the inductive sensor. I have blue to power supply -, brown to power supply +, on the black signal wire I have a 15k ohm resistor inline from black signal wire from the sensor sensor with a 10k ohm resistor T in after the 15k on it's way back to my board. When I measure the signal wire I have 12 volts with the light on the sensor off an 0 with it on.[...]
following these directions [www.instructables.com] I now have 3.25 with light offf and 0.0 when light is on. I have pluged the signal wire into the bottom plug of the z-min which is where the green wire would be on a mechanical endstop.
I have tried hooking the blue wire from the sensor (with the resistor) to the power supply and also to the center pin of the end stop. Same results. For now I am assuming that the 3.25 volts I am seeing is to low to trip the endstop switch in the board. I assume I made some mistake with my original resistors in the first place and now these large 5% resistors are dropping it to low. I will try to figure out a way to get the voltage up a little higher/closer to 5 volts and try again tomorrow.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 02, 2016 10:23PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 06, 2016 12:57AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 06, 2016 06:30PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 07, 2016 10:39AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 07, 2016 10:52AM |
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The stock nozzle that came with my kit has been clogging on every print. I am thinking I should replace it with one of these [e3d-online.com] thoughts?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 07, 2016 11:24AM |
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I was just looking at the "Has any one built the Micromake printer?" thread (http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?178,545625) and decided to look at it on the Aliexpress selling page.
I noticed a very novel idea in the way the Micromake effector is designed, where the effector plate is made as a kind of "A" shape with the top of the hot end raised much higher than the pivot points of the arms. That would seem to me that it would reduce the effects (amplitude) of tilt and backlash considerably on the movement of the nozzle tip.
I would think we/one/you could design and print a replacement effector for the FolgerTech unit to mount the hot end the same way - with the added advantage of greater Z-height.
Thinking more, maybe just align the pivot points nearer the vertical center of the hotend to reduce angular momentum (given you can fit space for fans).
Thoughts? Negatives?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 08, 2016 03:08PM |
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The stock nozzle that came with my kit has been clogging on every print. I am thinking I should replace it with one of these [e3d-online.com] thoughts?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 08, 2016 06:50PM |
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The stock nozzle that came with my kit has been clogging on every print. I am thinking I should replace it with one of these [e3d-online.com] thoughts?
Same problem here. I am looking into getting a hot end with a sleeve to see if it will work any better (at all I should say). I have verified my temperature, checked my extruder feed and have yet to be able to print. On one jam I let the hot end get to hot and melted the holder for the sensor/hot end (reprinted it on my Prusa I-3). So my next step in grabbing an aluminum effector and a better hot end.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 08, 2016 10:22PM |
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XYrZbest
The stock nozzle that came with my kit has been clogging on every print. I am thinking I should replace it with one of these [e3d-online.com] thoughts?
Same problem here. I am looking into getting a hot end with a sleeve to see if it will work any better (at all I should say). I have verified my temperature, checked my extruder feed and have yet to be able to print. On one jam I let the hot end get to hot and melted the holder for the sensor/hot end (reprinted it on my Prusa I-3). So my next step in grabbing an aluminum effector and a better hot end.
Hah! This is EXACTLY what happened to me. So I got a clone v6 'all metal' hot-end instead of the clone v5 that the FolgerTech came with. Same problem. I cannot print PLA without it jamming up immediately and I cannot tell why.
Now I had started with PLA because I read it's supposed to be the best for beginners. But having such problems, I decided to try a reel of ABS. Result? Success! I can print all day and every time with ABS. Went back to try PLA - instant jam.
Agggh.I just can't fathom it.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 11, 2016 04:05PM |
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XYrZbest
The stock nozzle that came with my kit has been clogging on every print. I am thinking I should replace it with one of these [e3d-online.com] thoughts?
Same problem here. I am looking into getting a hot end with a sleeve to see if it will work any better (at all I should say). I have verified my temperature, checked my extruder feed and have yet to be able to print. On one jam I let the hot end get to hot and melted the holder for the sensor/hot end (reprinted it on my Prusa I-3). So my next step in grabbing an aluminum effector and a better hot end.
Hah! This is EXACTLY what happened to me. So I got a clone v6 'all metal' hot-end instead of the clone v5 that the FolgerTech came with. Same problem. I cannot print PLA without it jamming up immediately and I cannot tell why.
Now I had started with PLA because I read it's supposed to be the best for beginners. But having such problems, I decided to try a reel of ABS. Result? Success! I can print all day and every time with ABS. Went back to try PLA - instant jam.
Agggh.I just can't fathom it.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 12, 2016 01:30AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 12, 2016 01:30AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 12, 2016 01:30AM |
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The stock nozzle that came with my kit has been clogging on every print. I am thinking I should replace it with one of these [e3d-online.com] thoughts?
Same problem here. I am looking into getting a hot end with a sleeve to see if it will work any better (at all I should say). I have verified my temperature, checked my extruder feed and have yet to be able to print. On one jam I let the hot end get to hot and melted the holder for the sensor/hot end (reprinted it on my Prusa I-3). So my next step in grabbing an aluminum effector and a better hot end.
Hah! This is EXACTLY what happened to me. So I got a clone v6 'all metal' hot-end instead of the clone v5 that the FolgerTech came with. Same problem. I cannot print PLA without it jamming up immediately and I cannot tell why.
Now I had started with PLA because I read it's supposed to be the best for beginners. But having such problems, I decided to try a reel of ABS. Result? Success! I can print all day and every time with ABS. Went back to try PLA - instant jam.
Agggh.I just can't fathom it.
I just got my new Kossel Rev B working and it jammed a couple of times. Both times I removed the bowden tube from the upper side of the effector and was unable to either push the filament in or pull it out. I stopped the fan so that the body of the print head heated up enough to soften the filament enough so that I could pull it out. It appears to me that there is a larger volume space inside of the extruder near the zone where the filament melts. Both times that i had a jam was when I was attempting to print with a poor calibration and the print head was snug against the bed, so no filament was able to exit the print head. This caused a glob to evolve in the space inside the print head. Since I've made sure that the first layer has plenty of space, I haven't had a problem. Also, I'm printing at 210°.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 12, 2016 05:36PM |
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So what is the general consensus on this Folger Tech 2020 Kit in its newest iteration with all the cool ALU parts?
Does it remain as one of the better Kossel un-assembled pre-packaged kits that comes with (almost) everything required?
I am thinking of purchasing. Definitely want a Kossel, and this one looks reasonably priced considering shipping and base price.
Lets remove past printing and tool-handling experience from the equation- is it a good buy, or good bye?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 12, 2016 09:58PM |
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thosmos
I think its biggest downsides are:
1. incorrect default configuration settings in their firmware - especially INVERT_X_DIR, INVERT_Y_DIR, INVERT_Z_DIR set to true which caused my printhead to slam and scrape across the printbed on first powerup as it tried to home for the first time.
2. incorrect details in the assembly manual - thermistors needed to plug into different spots on RAMPS board than specified in manual; told to cut bowden tube in half, but then it would have been too short
3. insufficient screws of specific sizes - I needed to make a few parts runs to the hardware store to get specific sizes
4. printed parts with lock nut holders failed to keep nuts from spinning - needed to use regular nuts since there's no room in the printed part to hold lock nut with needle nose pliers
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 12, 2016 10:31PM |
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I think its biggest downsides are:
1. incorrect default configuration settings in their firmware - especially INVERT_X_DIR, INVERT_Y_DIR, INVERT_Z_DIR set to true which caused my printhead to slam and scrape across the printbed on first powerup as it tried to home for the first time.
2. incorrect details in the assembly manual - thermistors needed to plug into different spots on RAMPS board than specified in manual; told to cut bowden tube in half, but then it would have been too short
3. insufficient screws of specific sizes - I needed to make a few parts runs to the hardware store to get specific sizes
4. printed parts with lock nut holders failed to keep nuts from spinning - needed to use regular nuts since there's no room in the printed part to hold lock nut with needle nose pliers
Thomas
I would agree with the first two items, but not that last two. I had all the screws (and more) of the sizes I needed. Maybe there's variation in what they supply?
And I certainly had no issues with spinning nuts. All the printed parts worked very well for me.
I do have to say though that the auto calibration was useless (as other, more experienced, folks have said here). I've just taken it off and learnt how to calibrate manually. It really doesn't take long once you work out how, and stays stable after that. I also moved to Repetier firmware to be able to set EEPROM values without re-compiling firmware each time. Apparently the later versions of Marlin let you do that too, but not the (old) version they point you at from FolgerTech's site.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 13, 2016 03:55PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 14, 2016 09:29AM |
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Has anyone replaced the wheels on the carriages?
Mine wobble a lot (~1mm deflection in the carriage) because the bearings are sloppy, and I think that's where most of the ringing I'm getting is coming from.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 14, 2016 12:25PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 14, 2016 02:12PM |
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Has anyone replaced the wheels on the carriages?
Mine wobble a lot (~1mm deflection in the carriage) because the bearings are sloppy, and I think that's where most of the ringing I'm getting is coming from.
If you have replaced them, what did you use? I'm thinking about the Open Builds V Wheels, but don't know if any of their offerings will work with the regular 2020. There are also these other ones that certainly will, but I want them with a 5mm ID, and they're a bit pricy. In both cases, I'd buy just the tires, and source my own bearings assuming just the tires are available.
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 15, 2016 07:25PM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 15, 2016 08:20PM |
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@CapatinTim: Still not, no. And they didn't react to you AT effin ALL (on the forums), which I find quite weird. Or did I miss anything?
Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 16, 2016 11:55AM |
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Re: Folger Tech Kossel Delta 2020 Full 3D Printer Kit w/Auto-Level July 16, 2016 06:07PM |
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Same issue here. Have been struggling for a two weeks trying to figure out what's been happening. I've been doing the same thing, taking apart the extruder to get to the jam. I even tried letting the heater block hang without the heat sink at 240°, but I still couldn't get it cleared. I ended up having to take apart the nozzle, heater block and M6 collar and using a torch on the nozzle and collar to clear the filament. I also assembled those parts when the heater block is at 240° to reduce the possibility that those pieces would loosen due to heat expansion of the heater block ( this already happened to me during a first print ). I've just been trying PLA with a temp of 190°. Extruder is jammed as I type this and dread having to take it all apart again. I think the issue is heat creep, but don't know how to resolve it. I printed this: [www.thingiverse.com] (at 110% scale my newly acquired Monoprice Mini), to see if would help, but I still got a jam! I may try ABS to see if that makes a difference ( like meq123 ). Odd that since ABS requires higher temps and thosmos has been successful with 240° temps ....