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Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 02, 2015 06:21AM |
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 02, 2015 11:56AM |
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... Maybe I need to let the new data settle in my brain.|
Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 02, 2015 12:05PM |
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 02, 2015 12:20PM |
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so I can't test it myself.|
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 02, 2015 01:03PM |
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 02, 2015 01:12PM |
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By the way, I wrote a Python script to automatically generate the gcode for the bed.g file for the probing points. I posted it on the SeeMeCNC forum. David, I keep forgetting to send you a copy.
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RepRap Firmware runs only on the Duet, so not yet, I don't have Duet yet. BTW is RepRap Firmware going to support more boards in the near future?
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 02, 2015 02:10PM |
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I don't understand how you fried endstops - where they optical endstops?
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Troubleshooting noisy startup of the Overlord Pro
Hi guys, I have traced today the source of the terrible noise at startup/auto-calibration. This is about the same exact noise you see in all owner videos on youtube that show the auto-calibration routine (ex: [www.youtube.com] ... u.be&t=209).
While running the auto-calibration I noticed that the noise came more from one of the towers, didn't know which one was that. I did this over and over until I was certain that the noise is originating in one of the three towers. I turned the printer upside down, got the plastic off the bottom and watched/listened to the motors. The Z motor was the one driving the noisy tower.
Please don't do the following at home, I have burned two steppers in the process. I then disconnected the battery and the power source and moved by hand the Z motor up and down. Terribly noisy. The same noise you hear while it is operating.
I tried to figure if there was something different in the mechanical arrangement of that axis, pulleys, belts, tension. Everything was quite the same. Then I jogged by hand the other axes and that sound wasn't happening. The next thing I disconnected the motor from the board (took out the motor plug/connector - it is very nice to have the plugs/connectors on the motors themselves). I could have also taken out the plug on the board. Surprise surprise the sound was no more there, the carriage was sliding quietly. I then switched between them the connectors of X,Y and Z on the board to rule out stepper drivers and still the Z motor was making the noise.
I think that the problem is somewhere in this motor. There must be friction between the stator and the rotor while it gets powered (by the board) or generates (while manually jogging the carriage) its own power. The sound is worse in reality then you get from youtube videos.
Unfortunately I fried 2 steppers in the process, maybe the power generated while manually jogging the carriages up and down was too much for them to handle.
Interestingly enough, one of the stepper drivers was not the original DFRobot A4988 driver. Apparently the previous owner tried to do some troubleshooting too but he didn't get the right axis and he gave up selling the thing. The two original drivers (DFRobot A4988) are not working anymore. I powered again the board and there was nothing happening, no OLED display turning on, nothing. I almost shit my pants. But after 10minutes of personal cooldown I took it step by step and after taking all the stepper drivers off the think started. Oh what joy. Now I plugged one by one the stepper drivers and yeah, both X and Z were causing the board to remain powered off. I think this must be some feature of the board to prevent the other two axes to move the effector if one motor is not capable of moving its axis.
I find it interesting that the original stepper drivers gave in so quickly while the other stepper (one that looks just like this one: [www.dx.com]) didn't take the nose dive. This speaks maybe about some quality issues of the original drivers?
Ok, last interesting thing is that all these drivers have voltage control pots. I read that it is impossible to modify the current that goes into the motors because the stepper drivers of Overlords don't have pots. It might be that my DMO Pro Black Devil edition could be different from others? I don't know. But it was bad enough that I had to replace a motor, now I have to replace two stepper drivers too
I will make some more tests with another motor (that I already have) and some steppers that a friend will bring over. Hopefully I will not burn anything else and will prove if the motor was faulty after all. If that proves true, i think I will have to replace all motors so all are exactly the same.
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 03, 2015 04:44AM |
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 03, 2015 02:31PM |
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How do recognize leaning towers?
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 03, 2015 05:07PM |
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How do recognize leaning towers?
Put a carpenter's square on the bed.
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 03, 2015 08:16PM |
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Clasiccal, old style Rostock with Ø 8 mm smooth rods has free smooth rod length about 73 cm and the maximum dynamic bending error with 42 Ncm stepper motors is about 0.2 mm. Static bending errors should be negligible (rods are vertical and platform weight by itself is small).Quote
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Morevover, the Rostocks have 1m+ long linear rods. Are these insignificant parameters that can be ignored?
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Re: Is openDACT best option for Delta auto-calibration? If not, which one? December 05, 2015 04:12PM |
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