Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 02, 2019 07:50AM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 02, 2019 11:09AM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 02, 2019 05:42PM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 02, 2019 06:03PM |
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Running PID Auto Tuning on my hot end.
24V, 40W Heater Cartridge on E3D V6 with Silicone sock.
Please see the attachment for results.
Thank you
Do I have to modify something or just save it ?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2019 11:18AM by alex773.
24V, 40W Heater Cartridge on E3D V6 with Silicone sock.
Please see the attachment for results.
Thank you
Do I have to modify something or just save it ?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2019 11:18AM by alex773.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 03, 2019 04:21PM |
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I was curious, it looked different than mine and I knew there were 2 versions.
On your PID Autotune, your PWM Frequency is too high.
Use:
M303 H1 P0.5 S240
If you get messages stating that it failed to reach target temperature, increase P parameter to 0.6 or 0.7 (I had to use 0.7)
After it's done, send M307 H1
It should report the values for Gain (A), Constant (C) and Dead Time (D)
You'll construct an M307 command to put in your config.g
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If you're using config-override.g just send an M500. If you are, you should have an M501 at the end of your config.g
On your PID Autotune, your PWM Frequency is too high.
Use:
M303 H1 P0.5 S240
If you get messages stating that it failed to reach target temperature, increase P parameter to 0.6 or 0.7 (I had to use 0.7)
After it's done, send M307 H1
It should report the values for Gain (A), Constant (C) and Dead Time (D)
You'll construct an M307 command to put in your config.g
OR
If you're using config-override.g just send an M500. If you are, you should have an M501 at the end of your config.g
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 03, 2019 04:28PM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 03, 2019 11:08PM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 04, 2019 02:36AM |
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Run M303 with no P parameter, so that it defaults to P1. The P parameter hasn't been needed since the tuning firmware was changed about 2 years ago, except in the case that the heater is substantially over-powered.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 04, 2019 08:14AM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 06, 2019 03:09AM |
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Looks good, although the heater is somewhat over powered.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 06, 2019 11:21AM |
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Thank you David
This is what I have in Config.g right now:
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
Is this the right command for Hotend ?
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
If yes, where should I put it ?
Thank you
This is what I have in Config.g right now:
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
Is this the right command for Hotend ?
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
If yes, where should I put it ?
Thank you
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 06, 2019 12:33PM |
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alex773
Thank you David
This is what I have in Config.g right now:
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
Is this the right command for Hotend ?
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
If yes, where should I put it ?
Thank you
That's correct. It doesn't matter where in config.g you put it, I would put it before the M305 H1 command to keep the heater 1 commands together. If you have a config-override.g file, make sure that it doesn't also contain a M307 H1 command.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 06, 2019 01:01PM |
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Thank you David
This is the config.g right now :
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
This is the config.g right now :
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
H307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 06, 2019 09:34PM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 07, 2019 02:15AM |
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The command you add to config.g should be M307 not H307. I missed that last time.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2019 02:16AM by dc42.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2019 02:16AM by dc42.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 07, 2019 07:26AM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 07, 2019 04:46PM |
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Do I have to change something for the bed heater ?
Yes, copy the bed heater model parameters into the M307 H0 command in config.g.
Note, it's also possible to use M500 after tuning to copy the model into config-override.g file automatically. But many users prefer not to use config-override.g.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2019 04:46PM by dc42.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 07, 2019 06:27PM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 02:56AM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 08:51AM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 12:06PM |
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This is the config.g right now for Heaters :
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M307 H0 A278.0 C1612.7 D19.6 V24.2 B0
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M307 H0 A278.0 C1612.7 D19.6 V24.2 B0
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 12:09PM |
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I think I have a problem with the Print Fan.
When I turn the printer ON , the print fan is on. Is this normal ?
The Tool Fan and Fan 0 are at 30%
This is the config.g right now for Fans :
; Fans
M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2019 12:33PM by alex773.
When I turn the printer ON , the print fan is on. Is this normal ?
The Tool Fan and Fan 0 are at 30%
This is the config.g right now for Fans :
; Fans
M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2019 12:33PM by alex773.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 07:36PM |
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Here's what my fan section looks like.
My print cooling fan is off until I send it a gcode to turn it on.
; Fans
M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
I think it's your S parameter, I believe if it's in the format of #.# it expects a 0.0 for off and 0.1 for on, I believe 0.3 is thought of the same as 0.1 meaning on.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2019 07:38PM by FA-MAS.
My print cooling fan is off until I send it a gcode to turn it on.
; Fans
M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
I think it's your S parameter, I believe if it's in the format of #.# it expects a 0.0 for off and 0.1 for on, I believe 0.3 is thought of the same as 0.1 meaning on.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2019 07:38PM by FA-MAS.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 08:53PM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 10:14PM |
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 10:32PM |
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I heat up the Bed to 90 degrees C and the Hot end to 205 degrees C and I did the Test and Calibrate the Z probe.
For the first test I left a sheet of paper on the bed for all the measurements .
Please see the attachment for results.
For the first test I left a sheet of paper on the bed for all the measurements .
Please see the attachment for results.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 08, 2019 11:34PM |
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For the second test I heated up the Bed to 90 degrees C and the Hot end to 205 degrees C and I used the paper only before I sent the command G92 Z0 .
Please see the attachment for results.
What is the correct value from test one or test two results that I need to add it to the config.g in G31 commend ? Thank you in advance.
Please see the attachment for results.
What is the correct value from test one or test two results that I need to add it to the config.g in G31 commend ? Thank you in advance.
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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP May 09, 2019 10:08AM |
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From the Duet Smart Effector Documentation,
All you need is
G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1
I used that, and didn't change anything else.
When I power the machine on, I home it (G28), then move the nozzle to 5 mm above the bed, then run G30 with no parameters to set the Z0, and then run G32 to run Autocalibration.
I only bring the nozzle to 130C, so no plastic oozes out but it's still hot enough to have expanded. I have my bed at 60C
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2019 01:38PM by FA-MAS.
All you need is
G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1
I used that, and didn't change anything else.
When I power the machine on, I home it (G28), then move the nozzle to 5 mm above the bed, then run G30 with no parameters to set the Z0, and then run G32 to run Autocalibration.
I only bring the nozzle to 130C, so no plastic oozes out but it's still hot enough to have expanded. I have my bed at 60C
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2019 01:38PM by FA-MAS.
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