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Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP

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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 11:39AM
If you previously set the homed height correctly as I described, using paper and G92 to set the Z0 should never be necessary.

I found that if I home the printer, then issue G32 from there, it goes incredibly slow.
So I prefer

Home the printer (G28)
Move to 5 mm above the bed. (G0 Z5 F1800)

Heat up the bed to 60C and the Nozzle to 130C
Make sure nozzle is clean

Use Z Probe to more accurately find bed position (G30)
Autocalibrate (G32)

Then I don't home the printer again

I manually move the nozzle up a little bit
Heat the bed up to what it needs to be at for my material
Then I heat the nozzle up to what it needs to be at for my material

Clean the nozzle again
Then print my gcode

(My Slicer start and end gcode don't have G28, but my end does move the carriages back up to just under the endstops. I also have not added any G28's anywhere in the .g files on the Duet)


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:12PM
Thank you FA-MAS. I did exactly what you said. When I sent G 32 the nozzle is not touching the all points and I got this error : Z probe already triggered at start of probing move. Compensation or calibration cancelled due to probing errors.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:18PM
The G30 prior to it worked without an issue?
With that error, it would seem to me that it thinks the probe is already triggered. What's the Web Control say for Z Probe when it's idle some height above the bed?


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:27PM
Now I sent G28 and G0 Z5 F1800. All good. When I sent G30 the nozzle is not touching the bed and if I keep sending G30 the nozzle is going up.After I sent G0 Z5 F1800 the Z probe on the web Control is blinking a few times 1000 then is 0

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 12:32PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:29PM
Would you post your complete config.g, homedelta.g and bed.g files?
Sounds like it thinks it's triggered already, i wonder if it's considering itself being at Z0 already and then moving up to what it thinks is Z5 in relation.
Generally the Web Interface should say Z Probe is 0 when it's not triggered, and usually it's 1000 when it's triggered.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 12:33PM by blt3dp.


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:34PM
; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sat Mar 30 2019 20:58:40 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)

; General preferences
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M665 R179 L360 B150 H470 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

; Network
M550 P"abc Printer" ; Set machine name
M552 S1 ; Enable network
;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

; Drives
M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes backwards
M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z200.00 E2600 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E36.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E120.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E500.00 I35 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S10 ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z

; Endstops
M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; Set active high endstops

; Z-Probe
M558 P5 R0.4 H5 F1200 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 R149 S20 ; Define mesh grid

; Heaters
M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M307 H0 A278.0 C1612.7 D19.6 V24.2 B0
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M307 H1 A635.2 C343.6 D4.4 V24.2 B0
M305 P1 X200 ; Configure PT100 for heater 1
M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C

; Fans
M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

; Custom settings are not configured
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:34PM
; homedelta.g
; called to home all towers on a delta printer
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sat Mar 30 2019 20:58:40 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time)
G91 ; relative positioning

G1 S1 X676 Y676 Z676 F1800 ; move all towers to the high end stopping at the endstops (first pass)
G1 X-5 Y-5 Z-5 F1800 S2 ; go down a few mm
G1 S1 X10 Y10 Z10 F360 ; move all towers up once more (second pass)
G1 Z-5 F6000 ; move down a few mm so that the nozzle can be centred
G90 ; absolute positioning
G1 X0 Y0 F6000 ; move X+Y to the centre
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:35PM
; bed.g
; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Fri May 10 2019 065856 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
M561 ; clear any bed transform
; Probe the bed at 12 peripheral and 6 halfway points, and perform 6-factor auto compensation
; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
G30
G30 P0 X0 Y148.9 H0 Z-99999
G30 P1 X74.45 Y128.95 H0 Z-99999
G30 P2 X128.95 Y74.45 H0 Z-99999
G30 P3 X148.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
G30 P4 X128.95 Y-74.45 H0 Z-99999
G30 P5 X74.45 Y-128.95 H0 Z-99999
G30 P6 X0 Y-148.9 H0 Z-99999
G30 P7 X-74.45 Y-128.95 H0 Z-99999
G30 P8 X-128.95 Y-74.45 H0 Z-99999
G30 P9 X-148.9 Y0 H0 Z-99999
G30 P10 X-128.95 Y74.45 H0 Z-99999
G30 P11 X-74.45 Y128.95 H0 Z-99999
G30 P12 X0 Y74.4 H0 Z-99999
G30 P13 X64.43 Y37.2 H0 Z-99999
G30 P14 X64.43 Y-37.2 H0 Z-99999
G30 P15 X0 Y-74.4 H0 Z-99999
G30 P16 X-64.43 Y-37.2 H0 Z-99999
G30 P17 X-64.43 Y37.2 H0 Z-99999
G30 P18 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
; Use S-1 for measurements only, without calculations. Use S4 for endstop heights and Z-height only. Use S6 for full 6 factors
; If your Z probe has significantly different trigger heights depending on XY position, adjust the H parameters in the G30 commands accordingly. The value of each H parameter should be (trigger height at that XY position) - (trigger height at centre of bed)
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:40PM
That all looks right to me, what's the Z Probe reading on the Web Interface?


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:42PM
I noticed right now when from home position I sent the G0 Z5 F1800, on the way down to the bed the web Control it says 0 then a few times 1000
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:49PM
I homed again and G0 Z5 F1800. Web Control is 0 and the PanelDue : Z5
Also when the printer is homed PanelDue should be Z465, now is 462.91. I have the homed hight in Config.g set to H470

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 12:55PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:53PM
There's not a G92 in any of the other .g files is there?


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 12:57PM
I never looked. Where I should check ?
I don't have any G92

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 01:02PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 01:04PM
Maybe check any of those .g files you might have modified? Possible a G92 was intentionally left in one of them?

I wonder, if you home the printer and then move the nozzle down manually using the web interface buttons, are you able to manually get the nozzle to lightly pinch a piece of paper between the nozzle and bed?


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 01:17PM
I moved the nozzle down to bed but it stopped 2mm, 3mm above the bed. Could be the difference between Z465 to Z462.91 ?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 01:18PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 01:24PM
Power it off completely, then back on and try again, I wonder if it's got the homed height still in there from previous autocalibration.


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 01:32PM
Power off and then on and the web Control is Z0 and the PanelDue is Z470. If I homed again the PanelDue is Z465
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 01:57PM
I believe that's normal, you probably checked during the time before the Duet has updated the info on the PanelDue.
As long as you home it, it triggers the endstops and moves down 5 mm, then both read Z465, it should be good

At that point, see where G0 Z5 F1800 gets you, it should be close to 5 mm away from the bed
See if you can manually move the nozzle closer to the bed, say 1 or 2 mm away
If you can do that, then G30 should work


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 02:04PM
After G0 Z5 F1800 I moved the nozzle down 2mm, then I sent G30 and G32 and it worked.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 02:06PM
You don't have to move the nozzle down the 2mm in the future, just testing to see if it would be able to move lower than what it thought was Z5


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 02:25PM
So the best is to have in my Slicer No G code on Starting script. How about the Ending script ? I know you have in Starting script to have the nozzle extruding some filament. What do you have in Ending script ? Could you please help me to set up my Slicer ?
This is what I have in Ending script
:M104 S0 ; turn off extruder
M140 S0 ; turn off bed
G28 ; home axes
M84 ; disable motors

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 02:26PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 02:35PM
Definitely remove the G28 from the end gcode I'd say replace it with G0 Z464 F1800

I would also remove the disable motors line
You're not going to be moving them by hand, if you did, calibration would be off
And it doesn't hurt to keep them on

For the start.gcode

I do all the stuff I posted earlier manually when I turn on the printer, then I don't have to do it again until I turn it off
It's so quick, I just type the commands in

For start gcode all I have is.

G0 X0 Y-149 Z25 F1800 ; Move nozzle to center, forward off the bed and 25 mm from bed.
; Leaving space to prime the extruder.
G0 Z[first_layer_height] F1800 ; Move nozzle to first layer height.

That's all, I leave my skirts to 3 loops, 6 mm away from the object and that primes the extruder

Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 02:50PM by blt3dp.


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 02:55PM
Starting script
G0 X0 Y-149 Z25 F1800
G0 Z0.2 F1800


Ending script:
M104 S0 ; turn off extruder
M140 S0 ; turn off bed
G0 X0 Y0 Z460 F1800 ; home axes -5mm

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 03:00PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 02:56PM
Quote
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G0 Z460 F1800 ; home axes -5mm

Update that one,
G0 X0 Y0 Z460 F1800

You can leave all the stuff like turn off the bed and extruder,

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 02:57PM by blt3dp.


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 03:03PM
I updated. Now the Starting and Ending scripts are the way it should be ?
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 03:18PM
It’s all kind of preference. That’s essentially what I have in mine, you may find in the future that you want it to do something else. It should get you printing though.


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 03:21PM
Thank you so much FA-MAS.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 04:31PM
I'm trying to print a small cube and I turned on the printer, G28, G0 Z5 F1800, G30 and G32. When I run G32 I got this error : Z probe was not triggered during probing move. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. G32 it's not working, it is not probing all the points. Is just not working. Something isn't right

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2019 04:32PM by alex773.
Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 04:43PM
G30 works ok, but then some points on G32 give that?


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Re: Kossel Delta xxl build project HELP
June 05, 2019 04:47PM
Yes. G30 works ok , only G32 is not probing.
It drives me crazy
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