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Thermistor for 275 Celsius

Posted by uticatechclub 
Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 05, 2019 10:05AM
Hi,

I am learning to print carbon infilled, nylon filament (https://markforged.com/product/onyx-filament/) on my custom designed multi-tool machine that is driven by Marlin bugfix-2.0.x firmware.
This filament is printed at 275 C on original Onyx One printer.
I have configured new all-metal hotend (actually separate direct drive extruder) with rather expansive E3D titanium heartbreak, heated block and nozzle components. I had to even upgrade stepper to get more torque.

I finally made my first successful print, but I had hard time keeping 275 C at check.
I have used NTC 3950 100k thermistor (from aliexpress) - Marlin type 11. Depending where you read, these thermistors are usable to up to 250 C while others saying 300 C.
At 275 C it fluctuates a lot, to the point where I had to increase Marlin temperature hysteresis from 3 degrees to 6 to prevent thermal protection error condition.
And yes, I did PID calibration many times.

Do you guys know if there is an inexpensive thermistor that is known to be good at 275 C?

Thank you!

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Re: Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 05, 2019 04:16PM
The thermistors sold by E3D are rated to 300C.



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Re: Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 05, 2019 05:27PM
... I've tested PT100 sensors for up to 600°C winking smiley


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Re: Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 05, 2019 11:25PM
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dc42
The thermistors sold by E3D are rated to 300C.

You are most likely correct.
Now I feel bad because I gave away my Titan with original hot-end.
I will buy one I guess.

Thank you for pointing it out.

I was hoping that someone could confirm the actual temp range of NTC 3950 100k sold in China and elsewhere in US.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/05/2019 11:29PM by uticatechclub.
Re: Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 05, 2019 11:28PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/06/2019 12:19AM by uticatechclub.
Re: Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 06, 2019 12:14AM
Of course its in Marlin, with 3 different ways to connect it...


20 : the PT100 circuit found in the Ultimainboard V2.x
147 : Pt100 with 4k7 pullup
110 : Pt100 with 1k pullup (non standard)
VDX
Re: Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 06, 2019 02:29AM
... the lower pullup will give more resolution, so more accurate readings.

I've used "amplifiers" to get higher voltage and sensing ranges ...


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Re: Thermistor for 275 Celsius
November 07, 2019 10:11AM
Thank you all!

I ended up ordering couple of E3D thermistors and will check how they behave at 275 C.
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