modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ?
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? October 22, 2015 11:23PM |
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? November 04, 2015 01:54AM |
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Or you can order some silentstepsticks. The best upgrade ive done to my printers.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2015 01:54AM by bigfilsing.
They run smoother and a lot quieter
silentstepstick your tube vid
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2015 01:54AM by bigfilsing.
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? November 04, 2015 02:09AM |
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Sorry bigfilsing , what does that have to do with the jumpers?
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? November 04, 2015 02:49AM |
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? January 30, 2016 11:10PM |
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Industrial best practice is to NOT tin wires that are to be terminated with screw terminals.
The reason this is so is that the differing thermal expansion rates of copper and solder cause a problem. The solder in the tinned wire end expands more than the copper (brass) terminal and a big peg in small hole causes the softer metal to yield (it gets softer with increasing heat as well). When the temperature drops later the parts contract again but now the tinned wire end is smaller than it was and causes a bad connection.
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Instead use wire ferrules, also referred to as bootlace ferrules.
The reason this is so is that the differing thermal expansion rates of copper and solder cause a problem. The solder in the tinned wire end expands more than the copper (brass) terminal and a big peg in small hole causes the softer metal to yield (it gets softer with increasing heat as well). When the temperature drops later the parts contract again but now the tinned wire end is smaller than it was and causes a bad connection.
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Instead use wire ferrules, also referred to as bootlace ferrules.
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? January 31, 2016 04:17AM |
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Getting back to the original question - a more reliable RAMPS - you could always spend a bit more money and get one that's been made properly: RAMPS Premium. The only things I don't like the look of are the fuses - it's a shame they didn't fit real fuses.
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? January 31, 2016 06:54AM |
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? January 31, 2016 09:46AM |
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That premium ramps talks a good talk but....
16volt caps under pololus, means you also cant use this ramps with 24v.
Also it doesn't have a 5V regulator on board to avoid relying on the often-overloaded one on the Arduino Mega. That and the 16V limitation make it a fail IMO.
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? January 31, 2016 11:20AM |
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So - apart from the fuses, voltage and regulator it should be fine! 
In reality though - if someone really wants a RAMPS board and plans to use it normally then it would be a decent purchase.
Mind you, at that price, it's a fair way towards the cost of a 32-bit board (assuming that the 32-bit board is also made properly).
In reality though - if someone really wants a RAMPS board and plans to use it normally then it would be a decent purchase.
Mind you, at that price, it's a fair way towards the cost of a 32-bit board (assuming that the 32-bit board is also made properly).
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? January 31, 2016 09:23PM |
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That premium ramps talks a good talk but....
16volt caps under pololus, means you also cant use this ramps with 24v.
Also it doesn't have a 5V regulator on board to avoid relying on the often-overloaded one on the Arduino Mega. That and the 16V limitation make it a fail IMO.
Do ANY Ramps have 5V regulators on board????
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? February 01, 2016 03:20AM |
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I am not aware of any RAMPS boards that have voltage regulators on board.
I suspect that when RAMPS was first designed several years ago, nobody used GLCDs or servos on their 3D printers, and everyone made small printers that only needed 12V supplies. Also the 32-bit processors cost more than the 8-bit ones did. In that context, the RAMPS design made sense.
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I suspect that when RAMPS was first designed several years ago, nobody used GLCDs or servos on their 3D printers, and everyone made small printers that only needed 12V supplies. Also the 32-bit processors cost more than the 8-bit ones did. In that context, the RAMPS design made sense.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/01/2016 03:21AM by dc42.
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? February 01, 2016 11:10AM |
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I am not aware of any RAMPS boards that have voltage regulators on board.
I suspect that when RAMPS was first designed several years ago, nobody used GLCDs or servos on their 3D printers, and everyone made small printers that only needed 12V supplies. Also the 32-bit processors cost more than the 8-bit ones did. In that context, the RAMPS design made sense.
Then that board in question isn't a "fail" because it doesn't have a regulator, is it? I wish they did but ...............
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? February 01, 2016 01:40PM |
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Re: modify ramps 1.4 to make it more reliable ? February 01, 2016 04:02PM |
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I am not aware of any RAMPS boards that have voltage regulators on board.
I suspect that when RAMPS was first designed several years ago, nobody used GLCDs or servos on their 3D printers, and everyone made small printers that only needed 12V supplies. Also the 32-bit processors cost more than the 8-bit ones did. In that context, the RAMPS design made sense.
Then that board in question isn't a "fail" because it doesn't have a regulator, is it? I wish they did but ...............
Yes it is a fail, because it addresses one of the deficiencies of RAMPS in today's context (inadequate mosfets) but not the others.
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