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first prints.

Posted by Karzin 
first prints.
August 09, 2017 03:16AM
Hello guys,

I've recently got my machine to finally extrude without problems.

now i've been working with temperatures and other slic3r settings, but i just cant seem to make the prints look decent.

- the first layer always seems to be underextruded ( you can always see the second layer if you're looking at the bottom of the part.

- throughout the whole print looks wavy. and that seems to be periodic

-there's allways a lot of webbing. I'm ofc talking about those spiderweb like strings hanging though out all the print.

these are the major problems that i cant figure out. do anyone know how to deal with any of them?

thnaks
Re: first prints.
August 09, 2017 03:38PM
Any Pics? I crank up the extrusion on first layer a little, then roll it back, Dont use Slicer so not sure all the settings there but I bet there are more to worry about than in Matter Control, Spider strings is retraction settings(or maybe temp).
Re: first prints.
August 10, 2017 02:37PM
UPDATE:

so the stringing is down to a minimum. appearantly you have to make the retraction bigger and the non print movement faster ( 5mm and 250mm/s). cant completely make the go away because it appears that the PLA I bought really lacks viscosity, but for now i can live with that.

in slic3r you can only adjust temperatures for the first layer.
Re: first prints.
August 10, 2017 03:07PM
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in slic3r you can only adjust temperatures for the first layer.

In slicer settings print settings/advanced you can set 1st layer extrusion width,
Re: first prints.
August 15, 2017 06:11AM
So I've set the thing to 250% (from 200%) and it did worse. it extruded the same amount pretty much, but the lines were further apart. so then i decreased it to 150% ant it looks pretty good.
Re: first prints.
August 15, 2017 06:22AM
Ummmm... why are you setting your extrusion rate to such large values? I typically have mine at 100% or close to it. Have you calibrated your extruder?

Depending on what type of extruder/hotend you have, 5mm may be too much retraction, and may cause hot-end jams. 5mm is probably about right on a Delta or other printer with a Bowden tube between extruder and hot-end. If you have a direct drive extruder, then you probably don't want more than 1-2mm retraction.

Depending on what type of printer you have, there can be several reasons for waviness in the Z-axis... if layer height in your slicer doesn't match your Z step size, for example. Or a wobble in your Z axis,
Re: first prints.
August 16, 2017 03:09AM
well My extruder is a direct drive one and i didn't notice any difference between 5mm and 2mm retraction so i just left it there, so i guess it wouldn't hurt to make it smaller. Although I did come up with that number following a video tutorial from "Matter hacker", that said the retraction should not exceed 5mm, that's why I stuck with it.

the Z axis Actually is quite unique in my case( at least I've never seen one like this before) I designed my own to be made of two drawer sliders instead of smooth rod and linear bearings and therefore the z axis is quite rigid. It didn't wobble even when i had the motor in bad alignment and used a stiff coupler, so I'm thinking the problem is the one you mentioned where layer height doesn't match Z steps. could you elaborate on that?

Also the slicer makes the infill a 100% in places where the cross section area is smaller, but not so small that the required infill pattern wouldn't fit. any Idea on that?
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