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Max temperature 226-228

Posted by Replace 
Max temperature 226-228
October 20, 2014 12:31AM
After rebuilding my Orca with Arduino/Ramps (I fried my Gen6) I can't get the temp higher than 226 - 228 degrees.

It heats up at 100% until 226, than it goes to zero power, shoots over to 228 after which it drops to 226 after which power comes back on at 90%
Than it shift between 226 and 228 continuously with power zero and 90%

But my Host says 240....... and my max temp in the deck says 260, so what parameter s still faulty ? Any idea ? My ConfigH is included

Thomas


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Orca V4.4 rebuild to Ramps with Mk8 and E3D, as well as a Rostock Delta Mini and an OLO in backorder :-)
Attachments:
open | download - Configuration.h (11.6 KB)
Re: Max temperature 226-228
October 21, 2014 03:49AM
Can you make a screenshot of temp. graph zoom = 5min, checked every second. Since you are using dead time control your dead time ( P parameter) might be to high for your extruder, so it stops too early. From settings I see no reason to stop earlier.


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Re: Max temperature 226-228
October 21, 2014 10:44AM
See graph.

This run is with new PID values, after a PID auto-tune session.
PID is now : 14.58 / 1.12 / 49.28

However, setting is 240 and realization is around 223

Thomas


www.3daybreaker.blogspot.com

Orca V4.4 rebuild to Ramps with Mk8 and E3D, as well as a Rostock Delta Mini and an OLO in backorder :-)
Attachments:
open | download - Temp graph.jpg (251.7 KB)
Re: Max temperature 226-228
October 21, 2014 10:58AM
You haven't zoomed the temp. to 5 minutes, so it is a bit hard to see. In this scale it looks like your temperatures are jumping quite a bit. That is a big problem with such a high damping.

Maybe you should first start with simple bang-bang to see how a natural swing looks like for that extruder and if it reached target temperatue. It is the most simple logic which turns heater on until target is reached. So if that works we know how it swings from the graph and can switch to the complicated controllers like dead time or pid.


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Re: Max temperature 226-228
October 21, 2014 11:17AM
Thanks for helping out,

What is bang bang ?

Maybe a parameter in the code ?
My config.h code is attached.....

Thomas

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/21/2014 11:17AM by Replace.


www.3daybreaker.blogspot.com

Orca V4.4 rebuild to Ramps with Mk8 and E3D, as well as a Rostock Delta Mini and an OLO in backorder :-)
Attachments:
open | download - Configuration.h (11.8 KB)
Re: Max temperature 226-228
October 21, 2014 11:23AM
It is one of the possible temperature controls like PID and dead time you can select:


Heat manager:
0 = Bang Bang, fast update
1 = PID controlled
2 = Bang Bang, limited check every HEATED_BED_SET_INTERVAL. Use this with relay-driven beds to save life time
3 = dead time control

You can set it in the eeproms by setting the corresponding number.


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