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Posted by gadman58 
Is there any one here?
February 27, 2012 10:28AM
I just finished mine. I guess it is technically a RepStrap.
It is built with MDF, UHMW not sure what the green plastic is and then the standard Prusa Mendal vitamins.
I patterned the frame after the RonThomp Mendel because it was easy to cut out on my DIY router.

For electronics it has a PC power supply sadly only 10 amps so no heated table yet. Arduino 2560 connected to a Xylotex stepper driver board. I had the Xylotex laying around after an upgrade on the router. I used a perf board for the heater components and used the Ramps 1.4 schematic to set it up.

The hot end is from LulzBot and is working well so far.

I am using Marlin as the firmware had to adjust the pin numbers to work better with my layout.
I am using Slic3r as my slicing program pretty straight forward to use.


Re: Is there any one here?
March 08, 2012 01:04PM
Well I'm here, and it is good to find someone else in the Albuquerque area
Re: Is there any one here?
March 14, 2012 06:05PM
Looks great! I am getting things ready to build a MendelMax within a few months. Did you run into any problems during your build?
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March 14, 2012 09:04PM
Thank you
Minor things, mostly created by my use of non standard parts.

The Xylotex board extruder drive chip got fried. The Xylotex is setup for NEMA 23 motors so the stepper connections were pretty good size screw connectors. I suspect I pushed the small wires to far in and caught part of the insulation which let it come loose. One day I turned it on the motors jumped heard a pop and then nothing. So I replaced it with a ramps1.4 and the Pololu drives.

Here is what it looks like now.

I think I have printed a little over 30 hrs so far replacing most of the parts of issue with more standard Mendel parts.
As well as making the blocks you see on the table printing.

Next project is a heated bed then wiring clean up.

Re: Is there any one here?
March 22, 2012 11:03PM
I'm just starting the assembly of my Ronthrop Mendel machine. I ordered a set of printed parts from Ron Thompson, and they arrived today. I'm very impressed with the quality of the parts he made. Very little clean up required. Someone is cutting the rods and shaft to length for me over the weekend, so things should move along fairly quickly next week.

For the electronics I ordered a Sanguinolulo PCB from the UK and a kit of parts from Mouser. Still waiting on the PCB. I've not done anything about the top print bed or the heater scheme except check out everything I can find on the internet.

Re: Is there any one here?
March 23, 2012 09:56AM
Sweet I am interested to hear how it goes.

Please post pictures of your progress if you can.
John's Thompson Mendel
April 11, 2012 12:12PM
Other activities have left little time for this project, but I have made some progress. While waiting for Ron Thompson to print my parts, I ordered most of the non-printed parts and had the 5/16" threaded rod, and 8-mm shafts cut to length as per Mendel. When the printed parts arrived, I laid them out on a table and took a picture. With some help from Ron I was able to edit the image and number the parts to match the numbering on Ron's list.

Here is the result

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2012 03:36PM by JohnDH.
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April 14, 2012 05:41PM
Early in the week I got the frame assembled. Seemed to spend forever adjusting nuts to make dimensions equal, with my calipers. On Friday I built and installed the 'Y' assembly. Lots more time adjusting nuts.

I'm not happy with the action of the bearings on the shafts. They feel gritty. Ron had a problem when he first tried these bearings on 5/16" (0.3125") shafts, but found them OK when he switched to 8-mm (0.3150") shafts. Only 0.0025" bigger but he said it made a world of difference. Did you have any problem with the bearings?

This is the frame assembly
Re: Is there any one here?
April 14, 2012 08:23PM
Bearings can be an issue depends on the bearing and the shaft.
Is the shaft very shiny or is it dull looking?
Did you oil them before you put them on. I used chain lube.
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April 15, 2012 07:05PM
The shafts are 8mm but the surface is very finely rippled. Maybe drill rod is not up to the tasks. Where did you get your shafts, and do they look like they are centerless ground? I see that VXB sells a shaft and bearing kit for just under $60, but from the picture the bearings seem to be the 608 skate bearings. I'm going to press on with what I have, but think about a retrofit later if I know where to get good ones.

'Y' is finished, 'X' needs the bolt for the idler bearing, and the belt installed. I have the 'Z' motors and couplers installed. Not very impressed with the couplers. I can see a retrofit here.

Which version of Wades are you using? I'm looking for assembly instructions.

Here is my latest image

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April 16, 2012 09:52AM
Looking good.

This is what I ordered from McMaster, 88625K67 O1 Tool Steel Tight-Tolerance Rod, 8 Millimeter Diameter, 3' Length. They have a semi dull finish so are not perfectly chrome plated smooth but seem to work ok.

This one here, pretty close to what you have I think.

I had planned on making those couplers but was looking for the tubing that goes over the shaft before I did. I have seen several people buy the AL or steel couplers and use those, but where is the fun in that....
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April 16, 2012 02:40PM
Extruder - Ron Thompson tells me that the printed extruder parts he supplied are for a 'Greg's Hinged Accessible Extruder'

Couplings - I commonly use the aluminum couplers that look like a solid piece of shafting, with a hole through the middle and a spiral groove cut through to the center hole to make into a one piece pair of hubs with an aluminum spring in between.

I'm thinking that something just like that can be printed with a 5/16" hub hole at one end and a 5mm hub hole at the other end. At the 5mm end I would add a nut slot to provide threads for the set screw. At the 5/16" end I was wondering if a 5/16" internal thread could be printed so that the 'Z' threaded rod could just screw into the coupling.

What do you think?
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April 16, 2012 04:05PM
So very close to the same on the extruders.

I have one like you are talking about in a cast plastic for a 1/4" to 1/2" for an encoder, sitting in my don't throw away box, but don't have any that worked so I use some printed ones from LulzBot.

Make a square notch through and slide in a 5/16" nut. Shouldn't need internal threads that way. A second nut on top to keep everything from spinning, I would think you would be good.

I have some delrin ones, from Dumpster CNC, on my router that are just cut part way through pretty similar to what is on my printer.

The printing direction would make a huge difference for strength, I would think, with a greater chance to separate at each layer if printed standing up versus if it was printed laying down . So I think square/rectangular might be better. I probably should make a spare set, I might model something up tonight and see what I get..
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April 16, 2012 10:22PM
I would like to make a big effort to get the 5mm hub and the 5/16" hub exactly in line, so that the bottom end of the 'Z' screw rotates instead of orbiting
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April 17, 2012 10:31AM
Pay close attention to your screws. I have one that has a slight bow it causes a wobble on the one side, I left the motor loose.
I was looking at small acmes for the next upgrade, after I make a new frame.
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April 21, 2012 11:39PM
I have several problems with the Greg's Hinged version of the Wade's Extruder. Some of which go beck to the original Wades design. I think I have it fixed so it will work.

1. The hinged Idler Assembly din not sit square with the hobbed bolt.

2. The skate bearing farthermost from the big gear does not want to stay in place, but moves 1/16" plus towards the idler. You can see the problem on this picture that I stole from Greg's site. Do you have this problem. You need more than a 180 deg act to hold it in place.

3. The slots in top of the extruder body were way too small. Needed some dremel work, but then the nuts would rotate. So I copied a trick that Ron Thompson used. With the 6-32 screw threaded right through the nut, I melted some ABS over the top of the nut with a soldering iron.

4. The little gear had one misshapen tooth that was hard to fix because of the hub being in the way, but I did get it done

5. The screw holes in the hinged idler need to be slots to allow the hinge to work with the screw held rigidly. Dremel to the rescue.

I have the 'X' assembly installed and am working on getting the 'Z' smooth shafts to be verical. Hopefully Sunday will see that done.

I've ordered another set of smooth shafts from a Canadian outfit Roland Lock $25 for a set of six shafts cut to Prusa Mendel lengths. Hopefully the are better than the drill rod I got from McMaster

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April 22, 2012 12:26PM
I printed this wades from Here.
It is printed in PLA. Sorry for the quality of the photos.

Here is a picture of the gears, reprinted the small one this one did not turn out so well,

It went together pretty easily. I didn't think I had any of your issues. My drive bolt is different so I have more washers spacing the gear out.
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April 22, 2012 07:43PM
The version you pointed to with 'here' looks a lot cleaner than the version I have. I'll bookmark it on my list of things to print.

Did you download the STL files and work from there, or the scad files?

I think what I have will work even if it isn't pretty. Have to start somewhere

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April 22, 2012 10:00PM
Just used the STL's. Don't think I even ran them thru netfab
Yep that is what I have been doing us what I have make better if I can. Gives you something to learn on.
i am pretty proud of my prints now although have not printed anything since Easter. Honey do list has me hoping..

I just now got in some ABS, I need to give that a try. I really like printing with the PLA so far though.
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April 23, 2012 09:27PM
Where do you buy your ABS? is there any local source?
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April 24, 2012 01:14PM
I got this at Ultimachine. They are more money than theFuteris3d but the freight is cheaper so about the same price for the product. I had bought from them before nice outfit.
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April 24, 2012 07:58PM
I'll give Ultimachine a try.

I have the basic assembly complete, and have moved the machine from my hot over-the-garage workshop to my 3rd bedroom office.

I'm starting on my MakerGear hot end kit

This week I should get the new set of smooth shafts from Roland Lock. Hopefully they will be without the rippled surface I have on the Mcmaster shafts

After Hot End and a shaft swap, the next thing is get the motors turning.

Re: Is there any one here?
April 27, 2012 07:58PM
Finished my MakerGear hot end and have it installed on the extruder, after boring out the mounting hole to 5/8" diameter with a hole saw in a carpenter's brace.

Got my new sooth shaft set today. Found it easy to swap them out one at a time. Much better. That ripple on the McMaster drill rod has gone. Now without the 'Y' belt attached, the 'Y' carriage will slide from end to end under it's own weight when tilted 45 degrees.

Now to install the limit switches and to start wiring things up.

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April 27, 2012 10:22PM
Looking good on the downhill run now..

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May 07, 2012 07:39PM

Finished wiring this morning, except for installing fans. I have one 40mm square fan that came as part of the Hot End kit, and a 80mm square fan that I plan to use on my Sanguinololu board. I'm puzzling how to mount them. May just hang the on some wires until I can print some mounting brackets. What do you do in the way of fans?

My Heatbed arrived lunchtime (A Mk2 PCB Heatbed with 200mm square mirror), but not the top 'Thick Sheet'. I will have to round up some Masonite in the morning. I've seen some alternative ways of using the mirror or a glass plate.

1. Under the Heatbed PCB with cork spacers, with the idea that the glass will force the PCB to lay flat.

2. Clamped on top of the Heatbed PCB to ensure a flat surface to print on. Not sure about heat coupling with this idea

Do you have any recommendations?


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2012 03:27PM by JohnDH.
Re: Is there any one here?
May 08, 2012 02:21PM
Re Heatbed. I decided to go as per the horses mouth

Joseph Prussa's Method

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May 08, 2012 08:56PM
Followed pretty much what Joseph Prussa's method said. My table is different I don't have a second one any more.
Removed some mass that way. My I level the PCB corners and attach the glass on top with the clips. I do need to insulate the bottom of the PCB.
I am only getting to 105c even with 12.3 volts at the PCB. Using window glass from Lowes.
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May 09, 2012 10:46AM

Where did you install the thermistor? I'm going to use one of Josif's suggestion and cement it to the underside of the PCB with two-part epoxy.

Also where and how are you measuring temperature? I have a EXTECH Mini IR Thermometer, that I will use. On my way out the door to get four 6-32 1.5" flat head screws to reduce the spacing between the top 'Thick Sheet' and the PCB to one or two washer thickness.

A $3 Clipboard from Office Depot was a better choice that a sheet of Masonite from Home Depot, to get material for the top Thick Sheet.

Mabe I can start calibration this evening.

Re: Is there any one here?
May 09, 2012 01:46PM
I installed the thermistor bottom center of the PCB held in place with kapton tape.
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May 09, 2012 09:37PM
I've got all the motors turning in the right direction, and homing OK, but when Z is homing from about mid-range, the whole X axis assembly moves back and forth almost a 1/4" with every turn of the Z motors. Have you seen anything like this? If so how did you fix it?

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