Homeprototypes: storage via git

We're still gathering people and brainstorming about an alternative design hosting site.
Name for now is "Homeprototype.org" (Already reserved the domains, so they can't be taken).

One of the main point is, where to store all the designs and images.
( [github.com] )


Please store all options, pro and contra arguments in the wiki, so they don't get lost in a lengthy discussion and we can at one point vote to make a final design decition.

Is a remote or a local git repository a possible way to go?

* can we add files to a remote repository without using storage and bandwidth to replicate it in a local repository?
* can we get public URLs for the files, so the client web browser goes directly to the repository?
* can we interrogate a remote repository about it's files, commits and branches?
* what PHP libraries can be used to do this?
* do they require the permission to execute a local git executable or special php modules?

The skaffolding at [Homeprototypes.org] has been extended to have an additional database field "storagetype" for each design and methods that check if an action like adding a file is possible for that storage type.

If we get remote respositories to work, supporting local ones too should be trivial.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2013 07:54AM by MarcusWolschon.

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Other sites have sucessfully used githib itself as the backend...

So your suggestion is to hardcode the githup-api instead of one of the git-libraries?
Why?

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MarcusWolschon Wrote:
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> So your suggestion is to hardcode the githup-api
> instead of one of the git-libraries?
> Why?

I'm not a developer. I just know that github can be used as a backend repository for data displayed on another website.

Many of the Reprap community use github to store their designs and sources for their hardware.

+1 for using github as the repository

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Just remember - Iterate, Iterate, Iterate!

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Any practical advise on any php-git/github library?
Who has done anything with php and git before?

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Hello akhlut . I agree that git can be very usefull but knowledge of how git works shouldnt be required to use the site. Thingiverse is super easy to use, anyone can just hop on and add items to their database in seconds. I remember how long it took me to conveince myself to even look closer at what github was. If we rely too much on git we will loose the masses. The Cubehero website tried hard but imho being git based ruined it. People had to get their git software setup to upload desings. Everything should be web based and kept simple and stupid. I think this site should not be for complex project developement tracking, but for sharing 3d designs. Ppl can still link back to github and use it for their complex designs and post the final files on the site.

Basicly what im saying is that github is not a user friendly thing and we have ppl of all ages, sex and education in this 3d printing business. Think about all the girlfriends, all the kids and think about every one that bought a replicator2!! omg... We will never make it, its, impossible!

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php-git2 doesn't seem to work.
[github.com]
It can only fetch remote repositories to a local repository.

Any other php git libraries that can actually explore a remote git repository to find all nodes(files) and their http URLs?



When limiting to Github there's problems too:

"PHP GitHub API" doesn't give access to trees and blobs = we can't get the list of files.
[github.com]

Same for the "GitHub Kohana Module"

"GitHub API" isn't finished and hasn't been developed in a year.

No none of the 3 github PHP libs work for us.
[developer.github.com]

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Can someone experiment with
[davidwalsh.name] ?
(using the github API via CURL)

I don't have time for a few days.
We need to find a way to
* list files and directories of a project in HEAD
* get http URLs for these raw files. (So we can put these URLs in

Does anyone know about this?
[github.com]
A php implementation of the git protocol!
Just got told about it via Google+.

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Hi all,

The guy behind Cubehero here. Been lurking for a while, and finally decided to chime in here to update some info.

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The Cubehero website tried hard but imho being git based ruined it. People had to get their git software setup to upload [designs].

Cubehero doesn't require you to know or use git. You can upload your files directly on the site now. In addition, it's still based on git, so the files you upload will still be versioned. For the advanced users that still want to use git, they can.

Sorry to those of you that found it frustrating at first. I think only one person emailed me to complain about it, and it took me a little bit for me to figure this out. I'm currently (as of Feb 5th) improving the flow and first time experience.

In general, I think theCrazy is right about keeping things as easy as possible, especially anything that touches the user through their journey through 3D printing. This means building the hardware, the documentation, the software for collaboration and sharing, the software for building models.

Wil

Good luck Will.

I'm hoping to see someone come out as the obvious winner here, and give a proper place for open source ideas to be shared, and give us a proper alternative to Thingiverse.

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> Good luck Will.
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> I'm hoping to see someone come out as the obvious
> winner here, and give a proper place for open
> source ideas to be shared, and give us a proper
> alternative to Thingiverse.

Thanks. While we're here, what's the one thing you need from Cubehero to win you over? Is it clear licensing options? Is it being able to comment with others? Or is it being able to merge and fork?

Wil

I don't have time for a few days.
We need to find a way to
* list files and directories of a project in HEAD
* get http URLs for these raw files. (So we can put these URLs in <a href="... for people to download files of a design)

Most of the git and githun libraries are extremely incompletel when it comes to working directly with remote repositories as opposed to local clones of them.

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I have been writing thingscript which is (for the sake of discussion here)just a script to generate html to represent files. The aim is that people can use it personally and put it on their own websites, but i guess it could be used on multi-user websites.

It uses caching stls into arrays with thingiview.js which takes a while. Ok for personal users, possibly too long for a server. However probably this caching is just being inefficient, besides it could be modified to use thingiview.js one of the other ways.

From the user perspective, I think the best outcome is a good number of sites people can put designs in, plus people just using their personal websites, all plugged into a thing tracker and searchable.

@iamwil what i dont like about cubehero is all the empty/pictureless items when you explore I'd push stuff without pictures(or files you can generate pictures from) or a readme down the result lists, and give users an indication that they should improve it.

Don't limit yourself to STL.
there are a lot more like STEP, PDF, TX, AD_PRT,... to a model.

People alto upload technical drawings, original files (not just the read only STL export),...

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You're completely right, and dont forget the electronics schematics! There are tons of formats, so links to programs to deal with them are appreciated. I added a page to list the status of that for thingscript.

Hi,

Is HomePrototype.org still under development? Any updates?

Seemed like a clever project.

Nobody wanted to help and I can't do it alone. So it's abandoned.

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Is this really abandoned?

Has anyone any views on the Githubiverse Template Gary Hodgson produced - see here

And if you want to see what a Githubiverse page looks like, I recently posted my 3DR delta project using the template, see here.

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Maybe we can say homeprototypes is in hibernation. "Abandoned" sounds so harsh...

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Has anyone any views on the Githubiverse Template...

Sure, I think it's great! I mention it frequently in threads about TV alternatives (see here, here, here, etc).

I'd like to try using it. But (like a lot of people apparently) I don't really have much of a clue how to get started. The other day I took the plunge and made a little github repo from one of my old TV projects. But, after reading Gary's instructions on his githubiverse-template page, it looks like I didn't structure my folders properly for it to work. I can do that over again without much sweat, but I gotta be honest that the rest of his instructions are a bit beyond me. For example:

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Edit index.md: Add a description, in markdown format, in the bottom section, or alternatively, use the description_file option in _config.yml to use file contents from the project root.

I read this and say to myself "Yes, yes, OK, I have heard some of these words before..."

It would help to have an "explain it like I'm five" tutorial about how to use the template... That's a blog post I would be happy to read...

Don't abandon you did good so far. I will try to help. Richard.admathaideas
I live in Cypress Tx near Houston .