Long time no update ormerod .Update to 0.78c firmware and problems

Few month not using and updating my ormerod.


OK now my problem are, i've updated the firmware. all files updated in sd card. mostly works fine. Only thing is in printrun software can't see my bed temperature but in repetier can. but in repetier cant heat up my extruder. Anyone can help?

Thanks

Hi

Are you suffering from the same problem as "Hot End Not Turning On"

It sounds as though you are missing the M563 tool definition command in config.g. Take a look at the config.g file here [github.com] and adjust it to suit your machine.

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M563 P1 D0 H1 ; Define tool 1
G10 P1 S0 R0 ; Set tool 1 operating and standby temperatures


i got this in my config.g is that right?

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M563 P1 D0 H1 ; Define tool 1
G10 P1 S0 R0 ; Set tool 1 operating and standby temperatures


i got this in my config.g is that right?

Yes, that's right. Try sending a T1 command from printrun or Repetier. Or use the web interface instead.

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Ok, i'm trying 0.97 web. Does the Quick command for setbeg works?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2014 02:01PM by antlvk.

OK, tried web. Even weirder. Everything fine, but the extruder motor is not extruding.... hmm....


*update*

i slice with cura engine, then extruder works. But I prints 2-3mm above the bed.... i've set everything right on config.g

;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 14.06
; Default start code
G28 ; Home extruder
G1 Z15 F100
M107 ; Turn off fan
G90 ; Absolute positioning
M82 ; Extruder in absolute mode
M190 S50
; Activate all used extruder
M104 T0 S210
G92 E0 ; Reset extruder position
; Wait for all used extruders to reach temperature
M109 T0 S210
;Layer count: 80
;LAYER:0
M107
G0 F9000 X69.20 Y22.76 Z0.30
;TYPEKIRT
G1 F1800 X95.86 Y22.76 E1.33022

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2014 02:24PM by antlvk.

Yes the quick command for setbed.g was mended several versions ago.

Did you try sending a T1 command? It's recommended to have one at the start of your custom Gcode for slic3r or Cura.

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Everything prints alright, left one new problem.

i slice using pronterface, print using web, bed cablibrated manually, z height, set alright.

when printing i will print lift few mm above the bed. anyone knows what happen?

When you say "bed calibrated manually", do you mean that you are not using bed probing for auto bed levelling?

I recommend you set Z=0 at the centre of the bed after bed probing, if you are using it. If you are not using bed probing but you have a set of four manual adjustments, make sure that you activate them before setting Z=0, for example by putting them in config.g (and not anywhere else). The reason is that the 4 bed position adjustments, when activated (either by bed probing or by the four G30 commands to set the adjustments with an S on the last one) affect where the machine thinks Z=0 is.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2014 03:32AM by dc42.

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This is what i have in setbed.g

G31 Z2.3 P656
G30 P0 X60 Y20 Z0.3
G30 P1 X60 Y170 Z-0.2
G30 P2 X170 Y170 Z2.2
G30 P3 X170 Y20 Z2.4 S



and how to sent Z=0 in the center of bed. X100 Y100 ?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2014 03:32AM by antlvk.

So you need to set Z=0 at the centre of the bed (either manually or using one of my differential IR probes) after running setbed.g.

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G92 Z0 right?

i found out maybe the Z gear loosed causing the problem. get back with the problem after i print a new one. Thanks

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G92 Z0 right?

Yes, with the nozzle just touching or not quite touching the bed.

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If you are not quite sure whether or not it is touching the bed, you are at the perfect height for Z=0.

Don't forget to change Slic3r's start G code to select T1 instead of T0 - and that line needs to be changed in any G files you made prior to the firmware upgrade as well.

Dave
(#106)

OK sort out the problem. Z gear problem, but donno how to solve it.


when start printing the z gear going too fast and the motor seems to miss few mm. will the motor having this problem?


any setting so that when it start printing the Z gone go too fast?

To reduce the Z speed, try sending M203 Z60 before printing.

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It works. Thanks.


almost printing. why is printing round object the motor not smoothly turning round?

Which motor are you referring to? If the Z motor is moving significantly when printing a small object such as the Z gears, that implies you are using a large amount of bed compensation, and it would be better to get the print bed more level.

PS - what M203 command do you have in config.g? RepRapPro used to use Z180 in that command in their config.g template, but they reduced it to Z100 in version 0.78.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2014 04:18AM by dc42.

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WHen printing round object X Y are jerky. Probaly is pronterface. I try print in web later.


M203 X15000 Y15000 Z100 E3600 ; Maximum speeds (mm/min) --- so i can tune this down?


BTW what software usually u guys use to slice.


Now i'm using pronterface to slice with slic3r then send gcode to web, is that right?

; Configuration file for RepRap Ormerod
; RepRapPro Ltd
;
M111 S0 ; Debug off
M550 PMy RepRapPro Ormerod ; Machine name (can be anything you like)
M551 Preprap ; Machine password (currently not used)
M540 P0xBE:0xEF:0xDE:0xAD:0xFE:0xED ; MAC Address
M552 P192.168.1.14 ; IP address
M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Netmask
M554 P192.168.1.1 ; Gateway
M555 P2 ; Set output to look like Marlin
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute corrdinates...
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M906 X800 Y1000 Z800 E800 ; Set motor currents (mA)
M563 P1 D0 H1 ; Define tool 1
G10 P1 S0 R0 ; Set tool 1 operating and standby temperatures
M92 E420 ; Set extruder steps per mm
M558 P1 ; Use an unmodulated Z probe
G31 Z1.8 P656 ; Set the probe height and threshold
M557 P0 X70 Y10 ; Four...
M557 P1 X70 Y160 ; ...probe points...
M557 P2 X220 Y160 ; ...for bed...
M557 P3 X220 Y10 ; ...levelling
M556 S78 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your axis compensation here
M201 X800 Y800 Z15 E1000 ; Accelerations (mm/s^2)
M203 X15000 Y15000 Z60 E3600 ; Maximum speeds (mm/min)
M566 X600 Y600 Z20 E20 ; Minimum speeds mm/minute

If you're printing direct from Pronterface, over USB, you're probably using the 'pre-compiled' version of Pronterface, and USB communication is very slow. Download the version from Github [github.com] , which has an updated pre-compiled version for Windows. Run it by running 'Ormerod.cmd', which sets up Pronterface correctly for Ormerod.

Ian
RepRapPro tech support

I'm surprised that you need to reduce the Z speed from 100 to 60 to prevent the Z motor from missing steps. Does your Z axis rotate fairly freely when the motor is powered off? Perhaps the threaded rod needs oiling, or the Z gears are too tight?

Printing in Pronterface will be jerky unless you are using the patched version of Pronterface. So either apply the patch, or use the web interface.

For slicing, I use slic3r, currently version 1.1.6 which I believe is the latest.

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Thanks Ian, works perfectly. Pronterface i mean.


New problem, god, when this ends. Lol.

Printing is very loose. It's like it per layer it move more that it should.


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; generated by Slic3r 1.1.6 on 2014-07-19 at 01:04:32

; perimeters extrusion width = 0.50mm
; infill extrusion width = 0.52mm
; solid infill extrusion width = 0.52mm
; top infill extrusion width = 0.52mm

G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
M104 S200 ; set temperature
G28 ; home all axes
G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle

M109 S200 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 F1800.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0
G1 Z0.350 F7800.000
G1 X90.884 Y84.741 F7800.000
G1 E1.00000 F1800.000

Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2014 01:25PM by antlvk.

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Printing is very loose. It's like it per layer it move more that it should.

Extrusion factor too low, or extruder steps/mm to low? Or filament diameter set too high in slic3r?

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Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod

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Extruder set to e433

filament diameter set to 1.75mm


did i miss anything?


any pactched pronterface not slicing according my settings. even though i put brim but i won't print the brim and 2 skirt loop it only print 1

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2014 10:17PM by antlvk.

still printing skipping line loosy prints

I've tried slic3r only 1.1.6 without pronterface. slice nicely but printer wont start using web.