Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch April 24, 2021 07:08PM |
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lenigma1
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dlc60
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Recoil1980
Sorry I am just getting back around to responding.
I eventually sent the printer back. I think the sensor was just bad, then the LCD screen went white and I was unable to use it at all. I spend the extra money and got an Ender 5 Plus. So far the new one is running, but there are still a few issues with it.
No big. I figured it out.
I have never liked the inductive sensors and this one is no different. I have modified my X5SA Pro and am happy with it.
Removed bed sensor
Added borosilicate glass bed
Added Z-stop sensor
Lined the two Z steppers with a belt, so they never go out of sync
Removed stock hot end and replaced it with a E3Dv6 and modified fan duct
Boosted the acceleration and jerk specs to speed up the printer
The filament out detector failed a couple of months from when I turned the printer on. So I disabled that in firmware too.
Now the printer is consistent and reliable. It isn't an awesome printer, but it is pretty decent for $400 (plus the new hot end). And a 330x330mm bed is quite useful.
DLC
I too am interested on how you achieved this.
However, I am on Marlin 2.0 firmware, and no more hotends-into-bed ever since!
BPD
Sorry for the long delay - In case you haven't already figured this out.
You cannot use the same connector for the Z stop as you use for the inductive sensor. You have to go to the main board for that connector. When looking at the board you you can read the silkscreen designators, in the upper right corner (of my board at least) is a connector labeled Z-stop. My X5SA came with another end stop switch. You mount that switch on the plate where you mounted the Y-stop switch, in the obvious way. Look at how the other end stop switches are wired and wire you cable to match. You only need ground and signal, you don't need power. Connect you cable to that connector on the main board and run a new code script that disables the leveling firmware. For example:
M8083 I0; disable auto-leveling, I now use the Z min limit switch. M8500; Save the changes, you MUST use this line.
Store this code on your micro-SD card as "disableautolevel.gcode".
Run the code by using the Print menu. After the printer beeps and throws up a message window that makes no sense, hit "OK" and power the printer off (make sure it beeps when it shuts off) and then back on. You are then set up to use the Z-stop. Test it by telling the printer to home Z and click the switch with your finger - don't risk a bed collision by assuming you did it all correctly the first time.
Be well,
DLC
Kits: Folgertech Kossel 2020 upgraded E3Dv6, Anet A8 upgraded E3Dv6, Tevo Tarantula enhanced parts and dual-head, TronXY X5SA Pro(E3DHemera).
Scratch: Large bed Cartesian, exchangeable heads, Linear slide Delta, Maker-Beam XL Micro Delta, 220x220CoreXY.
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch April 30, 2021 02:04PM |
I just wanted to share my experience, I have changed the firmware with marlin and it works very well !
I have installed a direct drive and kept the proximity sensor with autoleveling. It's wonderfull how it works, no more nozzle in the bed
I have installed a direct drive and kept the proximity sensor with autoleveling. It's wonderfull how it works, no more nozzle in the bed
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch April 30, 2021 07:38PM |
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panch47
I just wanted to share my experience, I have changed the firmware with marlin and it works very well !
I have installed a direct drive and kept the proximity sensor with autoleveling. It's wonderfull how it works, no more nozzle in the bed
I have looked at the Marlin 2 (32 bit) build process and it looks like they took a giant step backward in usability and upgradability, multiple compilers, special libraries and IDE. It looks very alpha-level development. Did something change recently? Besides that, is there a way to even figure out what the board is to install firmware on it?
So, what process did you use to change the firmware on your Chitu controller? I really don't like the firmware that is on it now, except for the ability to easily change controller parameters by running gcode - of course, now that I think about it, you could use this very same method with Marlin firmware by storing changes in the EEPROM, all from within a gcode file.
...Very interested...
DLC
Kits: Folgertech Kossel 2020 upgraded E3Dv6, Anet A8 upgraded E3Dv6, Tevo Tarantula enhanced parts and dual-head, TronXY X5SA Pro(E3DHemera).
Scratch: Large bed Cartesian, exchangeable heads, Linear slide Delta, Maker-Beam XL Micro Delta, 220x220CoreXY.
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch September 03, 2022 11:54PM |
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lenigma1
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Recoil1980
Sorry I am just getting back around to responding.
I eventually sent the printer back. I think the sensor was just bad, then the LCD screen went white and I was unable to use it at all. I spend the extra money and got an Ender 5 Plus. So far the new one is running, but there are still a few issues with it.
No big. I figured it out.
I have never liked the inductive sensors and this one is no different. I have modified my X5SA Pro and am happy with it.
Removed bed sensor
Added borosilicate glass bed
Added Z-stop sensor
Lined the two Z steppers with a belt, so they never go out of sync
Removed stock hot end and replaced it with a E3Dv6 and modified fan duct
Boosted the acceleration and jerk specs to speed up the printer
The filament out detector failed a couple of months from when I turned the printer on. So I disabled that in firmware too.
Now the printer is consistent and reliable. It isn't an awesome printer, but it is pretty decent for $400 (plus the new hot end). And a 330x330mm bed is quite useful.
DLC
I too am interested on how you achieved this.
However, I am on Marlin 2.0 firmware, and no more hotends-into-bed ever since!
BPD
Sorry for the long delay - In case you haven't already figured this out.
You cannot use the same connector for the Z stop as you use for the inductive sensor. You have to go to the main board for that connector. When looking at the board you you can read the silkscreen designators, in the upper right corner (of my board at least) is a connector labeled Z-stop. My X5SA came with another end stop switch. You mount that switch on the plate where you mounted the Y-stop switch, in the obvious way. Look at how the other end stop switches are wired and wire you cable to match. You only need ground and signal, you don't need power. Connect you cable to that connector on the main board and run a new code script that disables the leveling firmware. For example:
M8083 I0; disable auto-leveling, I now use the Z min limit switch. M8500; Save the changes, you MUST use this line.
Store this code on your micro-SD card as "disableautolevel.gcode".
Run the code by using the Print menu. After the printer beeps and throws up a message window that makes no sense, hit "OK" and power the printer off (make sure it beeps when it shuts off) and then back on. You are then set up to use the Z-stop. Test it by telling the printer to home Z and click the switch with your finger - don't risk a bed collision by assuming you did it all correctly the first time.
Be well,
DLC
Hi, I have the X5SA-Pro, and have been trying to add the Z end stop, with no success at all. I tried to enter your little code and nothing happened. I wired the switsh and again nothing worked I trie continuity on the swith it seems to be triggering ok. Is there another way to disable the sensor.. I know it's abit late just hope someone can help. There does not seem to be a config file. I have the 130 board and V1.32 firmware..
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch September 04, 2022 01:41PM |
You have to do everything exactly right to get this to work. If you do not have your current settings file, then you will not be doing everything right.
I have attached a file that explains all of the gcode settings and how to set and change them. This is your TronXY bible.
First rule of programming ALWAYS save your current configuration so that you can get it back when you mess something up.
As for the wiring of the switch. Look at how the other switches are wired, wire it that way. That is my best advice. If the other switches are all wire with the ground wire to the edge of the board, wire this switch the same as that. A switch will almost always be wired as a pull-up with the switch open and a short to ground when closed. My TronXY came with an extra end-stop switch PCB in the box, that is what I used for the Z limit. If yours didn't then you will have to create one yourself. It isn't hard and you can just buy one from any of a thousand vendors.
gcode explained:
Tronxy_Firmware_Configuration_Manual_-_Revision_2.txt
One thing that I learned is that the new gcode will not take affect until the printer is properly power-cycled.
In my case, "properly" means this:
When you flip off the switch, you VERY briefly see a power down message and the controller beeps before power shuts off. If that does not happen, turn it back on and power it down again.
good luck,
DLC
P.S.
Many of my TronXY links that I used in 2020 are no longer valid, so I am glad I downloaded all the information when I found it!
Kits: Folgertech Kossel 2020 upgraded E3Dv6, Anet A8 upgraded E3Dv6, Tevo Tarantula enhanced parts and dual-head, TronXY X5SA Pro(E3DHemera).
Scratch: Large bed Cartesian, exchangeable heads, Linear slide Delta, Maker-Beam XL Micro Delta, 220x220CoreXY.
I have attached a file that explains all of the gcode settings and how to set and change them. This is your TronXY bible.
First rule of programming ALWAYS save your current configuration so that you can get it back when you mess something up.
As for the wiring of the switch. Look at how the other switches are wired, wire it that way. That is my best advice. If the other switches are all wire with the ground wire to the edge of the board, wire this switch the same as that. A switch will almost always be wired as a pull-up with the switch open and a short to ground when closed. My TronXY came with an extra end-stop switch PCB in the box, that is what I used for the Z limit. If yours didn't then you will have to create one yourself. It isn't hard and you can just buy one from any of a thousand vendors.
gcode explained:
Tronxy_Firmware_Configuration_Manual_-_Revision_2.txt
One thing that I learned is that the new gcode will not take affect until the printer is properly power-cycled.
In my case, "properly" means this:
When you flip off the switch, you VERY briefly see a power down message and the controller beeps before power shuts off. If that does not happen, turn it back on and power it down again.
good luck,
DLC
P.S.
Many of my TronXY links that I used in 2020 are no longer valid, so I am glad I downloaded all the information when I found it!
Kits: Folgertech Kossel 2020 upgraded E3Dv6, Anet A8 upgraded E3Dv6, Tevo Tarantula enhanced parts and dual-head, TronXY X5SA Pro(E3DHemera).
Scratch: Large bed Cartesian, exchangeable heads, Linear slide Delta, Maker-Beam XL Micro Delta, 220x220CoreXY.
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch September 04, 2022 09:36PM |
Thank you my Friend.
I must say you put a lot of work into that file, But I have a question, probably a stupid one in many an eye
But how do I load this into tronxy, I tried one by printing it and it did just that, went through the motion of printing. OK yes a stupid question, just read it is not a flashable file. So where can I get one. aon switch off I see no message or signal. I mentioned above that the firmware I have is V1.32 which is a Marlin.. Just a thought should I use M500 insread of M8500.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2022 07:29PM by erniehatt.
I must say you put a lot of work into that file, But I have a question, probably a stupid one in many an eye
But how do I load this into tronxy, I tried one by printing it and it did just that, went through the motion of printing. OK yes a stupid question, just read it is not a flashable file. So where can I get one. aon switch off I see no message or signal. I mentioned above that the firmware I have is V1.32 which is a Marlin.. Just a thought should I use M500 insread of M8500.Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2022 07:29PM by erniehatt.
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch September 05, 2022 07:32PM |
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Thank you my Friend.
I must say you put a lot of work into that file, But I have a question, probably a stupid one in many an eye
I didn't compile that, someone who's web pages are now gone did.
You do not load that file into your printer. Read it carefully. I repeat, read it carefully. Everything that you need to know is there, I added some nuance above about having to reboot and what a proper shutdown sounds like.
First off, do what he says at the top.
Create a file called "savesettings.gcode"
In that file put these two commands:
M6046 ;sdcard access
M8512 "currentconfig.gcode" ;save settings to file
Save this file on the SD card and put the card into your TronXY.
"print" this file.
NOTE: like he says, it will not say "complete", just wait about 15 seconds, stop the print and exit.
You will now have a file called "currentconfig.gcode" on that SD card - Save it as a backup, or "respawn point" if you will.
I disabled the auto-leveling using this file, I called it "disableautolevel.gcode"
M8083 I0; disable auto-leveling, believe the z limit switch.
M8500
NOTE: As he says, m8500 MUST be the last command in the file, this saves the settings, otherwise the settings will go away after a power cycle.
MORE NOTE: everything after a ';' is a comment
EVEN MORE NOTE: Whenever you do this kind of a configuration "print", you won't see a "complete" message and you just have to wait 15 seconds and stop the print.
You can fiddle to your hearts content with other settings, the defaults make the printer pitifully slow.
Here is an example file I did after I installed an E3D Hemera to my TronXY-X5SA Pro printer:
"TronXYCompleteSetup.gcode"
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; Make this printer go FASTER
; Full list of changes to the TronXY, this for Hemera head (heavier than E3dv6)
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; Speeds are mm/speed;
M8006 I120; Starting speed, go this speed from the start if speed > this speed.
M8007 I5; Jerk, speeds lower than this assume instant acceleration, was 15
M8008 I700; Acceleration, was 1500
M8007 E10; Extruder jerk speed
M8008 E700; Extruder acceleration
M8012 I200; Maximum X and Y axis speed in mm/s
M8013 I16.7; Maximum Z axis speed in mm/s
M8014 I120; Maximum Extruder speed in mm/s
M8029 D0; Filament runout detection functionality 0: Disabled 1: Enabled (My sensor broke)
M8020 S0; Filament retraction distance, defaults to 1.5, 0 allows slicer to select, but really it seems to just set it to 3
M8022 I270; max hot end temperature
M8023 I100; max bed temperature
M8083 I0; disable auto-leveling, I now use the Z min limit switch.
M8011 S0.001326635 ;0.00122249388 ;0.00244498777; E3D Hemera 1/stepsPerMM*2, then tweaked (1/793.46) then to 1/753.79
M8500; Save the changes, you MUST use this line.
Read the firmware config file a couple of times and try some simple experiments, STARTING WITH getting and saving your current config file.
be well,
DLC
Kits: Folgertech Kossel 2020 upgraded E3Dv6, Anet A8 upgraded E3Dv6, Tevo Tarantula enhanced parts and dual-head, TronXY X5SA Pro(E3DHemera).
Scratch: Large bed Cartesian, exchangeable heads, Linear slide Delta, Maker-Beam XL Micro Delta, 220x220CoreXY.
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch November 24, 2022 01:55PM |
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dlc60
so to disable the sensor these 2 lines need putting on to a sd card like doing a update etc.
M8083 I0; disable auto-leveling, I now use the Z min limit switch.
M8500; Save the changes, you MUST use this line.
only ask as i have been having trouble like many others with the sensor.
and had to update firmware because it would not boot up correctly yesterday.
apart from it's small problems it is a great printer.
Put the M8500 at the end of the config file you write.
You do not have to include every configuration command to change only one thing. You can run a small one to do a single change. I like to keep a backup of the pre-change command set so that I can back out a change if I need to. The instructions are further up this chain for how to get the current config file.
You then have to find a way to put a Z min limit switch on your system. I printed up some pieces to handle that and my X5SA came with an extra limit switch, which I used on my printer. Mount it next to the Y-min switch, there are holes there already to do that for a Z-min switch. Perfect, the correct wiring and all TronXY took care of that.
You will need to find the connector for the Z min switch on your controller. I can't help you with that since they seem to change controller boards more often than some people change socks. You can find it on the controller board by looking where the other limit switches plug onto your board, the Z min will be in that area.I think inductive sensors stink, only contact switches seem to work well in my experience. They must be really cheap since all the kit makers seem to include them.
be well,
DLC
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Re: Tronxy X5SA Pro - Marlin settings, removing auto level sensor and adding limit switch November 27, 2022 03:33PM |
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dlc60
so to disable the sensor these 2 lines need putting on to a sd card like doing a update etc.
M8083 I0; disable auto-leveling, I now use the Z min limit switch.
M8500; Save the changes, you MUST use this line.
only ask as i have been having trouble like many others with the sensor.
and had to update firmware because it would not boot up correctly yesterday.
apart from it's small problems it is a great printer.
Put the M8500 at the end of the config file you write.
You do not have to include every configuration command to change only one thing. You can run a small one to do a single change. I like to keep a backup of the pre-change command set so that I can back out a change if I need to. The instructions are further up this chain for how to get the current config file.
You then have to find a way to put a Z min limit switch on your system. I printed up some pieces to handle that and my X5SA came with an extra limit switch, which I used on my printer. Mount it next to the Y-min switch, there are holes there already to do that for a Z-min switch. Perfect, the correct wiring and all TronXY took care of that.
I think inductive sensors stink, only contact switches seem to work well in my experience. They must be really cheap since all the kit makers seem to include them.
be well,
DLC
been watching some videos doing this code things looks a bit much for me. very new to this code stuff.
i will look at some more videos but don't hold up much hope of it working. lol
as for wiring and mounting that is the easy part for me.
martin
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