Hardening your Prusa i3 3D Printer May 30, 2015 02:55PM |
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I documented my approach to hardening the Prusa i3 in an article on my site. For any Prusa builders out there, this is good info. If you have any suggestions for additions please post them here!
In summary:
Constrain the X axis bearings in their printed-part sleeves
Constrain the Z axis captured nut that rides in the X axis motor and idler parts
Replace the linear bearings with tighter fitting hard plastic bushings. Preferably nylon, delrin, PLA or HIPS. Not ABS.
Replace Y bed linear bearings with printed bearing blocks.
Throw away the cheap chines steel linear bearings.
Ensure the Z axis threaded rods are not constrained at the top. If you constrain them, they will force the X carriage to wobble.
Reduce X axis carriage bearing count from four to three, situated in a triangle.
Mount the entire printer to a piece of solid wood base.
I'll add this one as an overall goal that I'm not achieved yet:
Eliminate zip ties.
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Why is three linear bearings better than four? I've seen this said before...something about alignment?
Re: Hardening your Prusa i3 3D Printer June 01, 2015 04:06AM |
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Why is three linear bearings better than four? I've seen this said before...something about alignment?
4 vs 3 bearings
Re: Hardening your Prusa i3 3D Printer June 01, 2015 04:13PM |
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thetazzbot
Constrain the Z axis captured nut that rides in the X axis motor and idler parts
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thetazzbot
Replace Y bed linear bearings with printed bearing blocks.
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thetazzbot
Ensure the Z axis threaded rods are not constrained at the top.
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Reduce X axis carriage bearing count from four to three, situated in a triangle.
Re: Hardening your Prusa i3 3D Printer June 02, 2015 01:20PM |
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thetazzbot
Constrain the Z axis captured nut that rides in the X axis motor and idler parts
Constrain how?
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thetazzbot
Replace Y bed linear bearings with printed bearing blocks.
You mean put the bearings in printed bearing blocks instead of zip-tieing them to the carriage? How about plastic bushings here?
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Ensure the Z axis threaded rods are not constrained at the top.
How about replacing the threaded rods with leadscrews? (Much straighter, stronger, and less wobble)
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Reduce X axis carriage bearing count from four to three, situated in a triangle.
You mean Y axis I think.
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I'm not an engineer, although they call me one (software), but even I can see several poorly-thought-out things about the I3. I wonder how it got so popular, other than by Saint Josef being a shameless self-promoter?
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Constrain the Z axis captured nut .. [picture]
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thetazzbot
No, X.
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elwood127
Nice print Craig. These machines are a perfect learning tool.
Re: Hardening your Prusa i3 3D Printer June 03, 2015 11:28AM |
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Nice print Craig. These machines are a perfect learning tool.
Oh, that link isn't to my print -- that's the maker on Thingiverse. This is mine: (almost as good )
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Re: Hardening your Prusa i3 3D Printer June 03, 2015 03:03PM |
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o_lampe
Challenge accepted
Re: Hardening your Prusa i3 3D Printer June 03, 2015 05:38PM |
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Challenge accepted
If I'd known we were going to have dueling printers, I'd have brought my A game.
I think you win just for using 2 colors, and a nicer color choice at that. I have some holes in the walls even at ~1mm. (Notice I took my picture from the opposite side.. ) The nozzle took a shortcut around some corners, especially at the seam. What speed did you print at?
If you want another challenge -- these guys have thrown down the gauntlet after slapping RepRappers in the face with it. I've tried once and failed. (They've deviously kept the bottom surface area to a minimum, so make sure you have good bed adhesion.)
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Constrain the Z axis captured nut .. [picture]
Simple and effective. I've been wondering what happens when that nut escapes from its recess. Actually I think it did once.
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No, X.
Ok, right, I misread. I thought you were talking about the bed leveling screws - digital_dentist and I'm sure others have said there should only be 3 of those. (Add it to the list!) I think my X carriage came with only 3 bearings, so that's good. (Not very good bearings, of course...)
I guess the design philosophy was to make an affordable printer for the masses, so compromises had to be made. But now that I'm getting closer to mastering all the settings and tweaks, I'm getting prints that look far better than I ever expected from a $289 printer. I just printed a Koch tealight holder that came out pretty darn good.
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