Re: My Replikeo Prusa i3 Rework Build February 05, 2015 12:40AM |
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I wouldn't raise your hotend to minimize the first layer thickness. You need it very close to the bed to lay down a solid first layer for adhesion - it should be smashed down a bit.
If you think you don't need an extra fat first layer, then you adjust this in slic3r. The default settings are to lay down a thicker layer, which I think is ideal. Anyway, look at print settings -> first layer height (default .35mm for .3mm layer height). Also, Print Settings -> Advanced -> First Layer (default 200%).
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Oh, and I didn't say: My layers were 0,2mm, my hotend 245°C and my heatbed 100°C first layers, then 95°C
And I just tried a print with heatbed temp 105°C for the whole print, still warping.
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Hey Blue Ice, any advice for nozzle dragging? I printed the 20mm cube almost perfectly, but the top layer shows minor dragging (see attached). When moving to the 50mm tower though, the nozzle really starts to push material to the edges as it gets higher. Any ideas? Pictures attached.
My only thoughts so far, and the settings should be correct, have been:
- The printer extruding more material than it thinks (adjust extruder steps in firmware, adjust filament diameter in slic3r, or adjust layer height properly with respect to nozzle diameter).
- The printer is not moving as high up the z-axis as it thinks (adjust z-axis steps in firmware).
Re: My Replikeo Prusa i3 Rework Build February 07, 2015 08:58PM |
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Hey all,
i'm also owning a replikeo prusa i3 rework (Steel-version) for two weeks now.
I've buildt up the prusa within 3 days till the first print.
If i print a calibration STL (see attached), everything seems fine, the wall thickness fits perfectly, no bending or other problems.
As soon as i start printing longer print-jobs (see baseLCD.stl), there seems to be a shift in x-Axis. The following picture shows the layers start shifting to the x-axis. At one point i paused the print and moved the x-axis a bit to the correct position and then continued the print. After a while, there was nearly the same shift in x-axis.
i don't know what to do. I checked the rods, i checked the x-wagon, also the nozzle itself seems to be fixed and has no movement in x-direction.
any idea what i can do?
Prints were sliced using Slic3R in Repetier-Host Mac.
Printed with PLA on 210 Celsius with bed temperature at 65 Celsius.
Firmware -> Marlin
Full Graphics LCD attached to RAMPS 1.4 board.
Re: My Replikeo Prusa i3 Rework Build February 07, 2015 09:02PM |
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Ano
Seems like you are loosing steps. You could try to fasten the x-carriage belt. Perhaps your motors are just on the edge of power. You could try to
give them some more (using the potentiometer on the driver boards (see wiki)).
I'm making some progress, too ^^
@Blue Ice: Thanks for the hint, a 0.12mm starting layer seems to raise the adhesion on the printbed. Even strong enough to not being able to lift
the 0.12mm high skirt
Re: My Replikeo Prusa i3 Rework Build February 07, 2015 09:10PM |
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Just wanted to share this incredibly helpful video I found, that finally helped me solve my extrusion length issue.
[www.youtube.com]
Previously no matter how many steps used I couldn't extrude exactly 100mm. That video above made process very clear. I calculated that I need to set extruder to 740 steps, and like magic it extruded exactly 100mm!!! It seems I've been printing by underextruding all these months...
740 seems like a huge number comparing to 600 steps recommended by Replikeo, but it works for me... Getting some good prints finally! Next project is to switch to Bowden E3D V6 mechanism...
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Jonny Five
My relevant settings are as follows. I've slowed everything down quite a bit from the defaults, and seen very smooth printing with hardly reduced total times.
#define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,4000,455}
#define DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE {500, 500, 2, 25} // (mm/sec)
#define DEFAULT_MAX_ACCELERATION {2000,2000,10,1000} // X, Y, Z, E maximum start speed for accelerated moves.
#define DEFAULT_ACCELERATION 1000 // X, Y, Z and E max acceleration in mm/s^2 for printing moves
#define DEFAULT_RETRACT_ACCELERATION 1000 // X, Y, Z and E max acceleration in mm/s^2 for retracts
#define DEFAULT_ZJERK 0.4 // (mm/sec)
I think the issue is that I need a print fan directly on the PLA, specifically for any print with solid infill or small cross-sectional areas. It really makes sense that these layers don't have adequate time to cool, so on the next layer above the nozzle draws the molten plastic up higher.
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My relevant settings are as follows. I've slowed everything down quite a bit from the defaults, and seen very smooth printing with hardly reduced total times.
#define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,4000,455}
#define DEFAULT_MAX_FEEDRATE {500, 500, 2, 25} // (mm/sec)
#define DEFAULT_MAX_ACCELERATION {2000,2000,10,1000} // X, Y, Z, E maximum start speed for accelerated moves.
#define DEFAULT_ACCELERATION 1000 // X, Y, Z and E max acceleration in mm/s^2 for printing moves
#define DEFAULT_RETRACT_ACCELERATION 1000 // X, Y, Z and E max acceleration in mm/s^2 for retracts
#define DEFAULT_ZJERK 0.4 // (mm/sec)
I think the issue is that I need a print fan directly on the PLA, specifically for any print with solid infill or small cross-sectional areas. It really makes sense that these layers don't have adequate time to cool, so on the next layer above the nozzle draws the molten plastic up higher.
Oh yeah! Do you have a fan that you use to blow air around in your house? I use one to usually gently waft air over the build area when printing PLA. It works great.
Otherwise, it seems that 455 is a little low for your extruder steps per mm:
#define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT {80,80,4000,455}
I would just check to see if the right length is going in.
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Just got a text from DHL. My kit shall arrive tomorrow! Just in time for the weekend. I'll probably post my thoughts during the build, possible some video logs. I'm excited! Hopefully nothing was damaged in shipping...
My kit arrived just a couple days ago, as you can see above. I'm through the first big step (here), and I haven't run into any issues yet. When I opened the box, I went through all of the parts to make sure they were there from the BOM before I built the kit. I thought I was missing the Fan Duct part until I realized that it was the part wrapped up in protective foam. In case you run into that, now you know
I would really love to hear about how your build goes or see some pictures- because we are assembling the kits at about the same time, we can try to help each other out. Does that work for you?
I started a Flickr album for my project here, and I am also putting out info on my blog about the project as well.
So here is where I am at:
More info coming soon
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Awesome!
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Just got a text from DHL. My kit shall arrive tomorrow! Just in time for the weekend. I'll probably post my thoughts during the build, possible some video logs. I'm excited! Hopefully nothing was damaged in shipping...
My kit arrived just a couple days ago, as you can see above. I'm through the first big step (here), and I haven't run into any issues yet. When I opened the box, I went through all of the parts to make sure they were there from the BOM before I built the kit. I thought I was missing the Fan Duct part until I realized that it was the part wrapped up in protective foam. In case you run into that, now you know
I would really love to hear about how your build goes or see some pictures- because we are assembling the kits at about the same time, we can try to help each other out. Does that work for you?
I started a Flickr album for my project here, and I am also putting out info on my blog about the project as well.
So here is where I am at:
More info coming soon
Finally got my smooth rods for my I3 Rework build. I have done quite a bit of the assembly and I was checking out your build blog - very nice!!
I noticed early on in your build that you had the y-axis motor set up to the rear and in the end it was in the front. Mine is currently set up with the y-axis motor to the rear. I assume I will need to swap it around? I have attached a couple of pictures of where I'm at in my build right now.
Re: My Replikeo Prusa i3 Rework Build February 12, 2015 01:22AM |
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Awesome!
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Just got a text from DHL. My kit shall arrive tomorrow! Just in time for the weekend. I'll probably post my thoughts during the build, possible some video logs. I'm excited! Hopefully nothing was damaged in shipping...
My kit arrived just a couple days ago, as you can see above. I'm through the first big step (here), and I haven't run into any issues yet. When I opened the box, I went through all of the parts to make sure they were there from the BOM before I built the kit. I thought I was missing the Fan Duct part until I realized that it was the part wrapped up in protective foam. In case you run into that, now you know
I would really love to hear about how your build goes or see some pictures- because we are assembling the kits at about the same time, we can try to help each other out. Does that work for you?
I started a Flickr album for my project here, and I am also putting out info on my blog about the project as well.
So here is where I am at:
More info coming soon
Finally got my smooth rods for my I3 Rework build. I have done quite a bit of the assembly and I was checking out your build blog - very nice!!
I noticed early on in your build that you had the y-axis motor set up to the rear and in the end it was in the front. Mine is currently set up with the y-axis motor to the rear. I assume I will need to swap it around? I have attached a couple of pictures of where I'm at in my build right now.
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Awesome!
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Just got a text from DHL. My kit shall arrive tomorrow! Just in time for the weekend. I'll probably post my thoughts during the build, possible some video logs. I'm excited! Hopefully nothing was damaged in shipping...
My kit arrived just a couple days ago, as you can see above. I'm through the first big step (here), and I haven't run into any issues yet. When I opened the box, I went through all of the parts to make sure they were there from the BOM before I built the kit. I thought I was missing the Fan Duct part until I realized that it was the part wrapped up in protective foam. In case you run into that, now you know
I would really love to hear about how your build goes or see some pictures- because we are assembling the kits at about the same time, we can try to help each other out. Does that work for you?
I started a Flickr album for my project here, and I am also putting out info on my blog about the project as well.
So here is where I am at:
More info coming soon
Finally got my smooth rods for my I3 Rework build. I have done quite a bit of the assembly and I was checking out your build blog - very nice!!
I noticed early on in your build that you had the y-axis motor set up to the rear and in the end it was in the front. Mine is currently set up with the y-axis motor to the rear. I assume I will need to swap it around? I have attached a couple of pictures of where I'm at in my build right now.
Johnny Five is spot on. Setting it up with the motor in the front is what I recommend, but the other way is also doable if you enjoy fiddling with settings
Which photos had the motor in the back? I can fix those so there will be less confusion!
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This one seems pretty misleading:
Well. I'll either switch the photo out or add a note in there to clear things up. Thanks for the tips.
By the way, are you nearly at the latest build log? I can get the next one up soon if it helps- I didn't know people liked them so much, so I wasn't especially concerned about time
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Re: My Replikeo Prusa i3 Rework Build February 15, 2015 08:46PM |
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Ano
I would mount the motor on the back. I have it on the front and I am currently to lazy to change that ^^
But for wiring reasons, at the back should be better. And changing the software is not a really big deal.
Just got another print running. It's a spool holder.
[attachment 49250 IMG_20150213_213152.jpg]
For adhesion reasons I used "L'Oréal Paris Elnett" hairspray, which one of the users suggested here I think.
This thing is sick! Worked really well and even at room temperature it holds on tightly. Needed to cool it down
in the freezer to get it off without too much force. I used 2 "big" layers and let it dry before printing.
Apparently I have a problem with my x-Axis. In the middle you see a layer that got too big and after that layer
the upper layers got really good. The layers at the bottom always vary in size but over that big step, the quality
is astonishing.
[attachment 49254 IMG_20150213_215641.jpg]
I will try to turn my threaded rods upside down and see, if that helps for the layers on the bottom.
Another thing I recognized is the holes being too little. The diameter I chose was 3,2mm, in the end it would be
printed as about 2mm. All other dimensions seem to be about fine.
[attachment 49261 IMG_20150213_223023.jpg]
My plan for further upgrading is to change to a bowden setup, as I said earlier. For that I will print an extruder
(Bratan showed me a nice one in another thread: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:669459)
and place it in the middle of the top frame.
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