Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 17, 2016 06:15PM |
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The frame is definitely rigid. A few people have added extra corner brackets, but I don't think it is necessary. I have not used ABS (the hottest I've gone is for PETG). Again, there are people on the forum who have used ABS, and I think some of them found it necessary to put the printer in an enclosure. I live in Southern California, so ambient temperature isn't usually a problem.
Can anybody that print's abs comment on this?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 17, 2016 06:49PM |
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UltiFix
Think ill be able to print abs between 67 and 75 ambient temp?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 17, 2016 07:01PM |
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I actually have a heated garage that stays between 40-50 degrees.Quote
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UltiFix
Think ill be able to print abs between 67 and 75 ambient temp?
I print ABS all the time. My garage is usually 50-60 F at night this time of year, and I don't need an enclosure. Heated bed stays at 100C and I usually print at 235C. The trick with ABS is getting it to stay stuck to the heated bed. I use an ABS juice (ABS dissolved in acetone) lightly spread on Kapton tape.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 02:03AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 02:40AM |
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UltiFix
I actually have a heated garage that stays between 40-50 degrees.Quote
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Think ill be able to print abs between 67 and 75 ambient temp?
I print ABS all the time. My garage is usually 50-60 F at night this time of year, and I don't need an enclosure. Heated bed stays at 100C and I usually print at 235C. The trick with ABS is getting it to stay stuck to the heated bed. I use an ABS juice (ABS dissolved in acetone) lightly spread on Kapton tape.
I was talking about this printer to somebody else, and they were saying that something he likes is having the printer frame, well each side have 1 big piece, unlike this printer it's a bunch of little pieces. Do you guys have a hard time squaring it?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 03:13AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 08:14AM |
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The frame is definitely rigid. A few people have added extra corner brackets, but I don't think it is necessary. I have not used ABS (the hottest I've gone is for PETG). Again, there are people on the forum who have used ABS, and I think some of them found it necessary to put the printer in an enclosure. I live in Southern California, so ambient temperature isn't usually a problem.
Can anybody that print's abs comment on this?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 08:24AM |
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Did Folgertech put up a billboard or something? All of this new blood on the forum in the last day or two
Does anyone else think it's about time we made a wiki page of some sort regarding this printer and we can put a link in our sigs since we can't update the first post on the thread? The forum software sucks and searching for stuff isn't super helpful. When someone comes here after their first build with X-endstop issues I can't even find the well-documented posts that detail the fix (and have forgotten myself)
I have a first draft of a wiki page, just nowhere to host it since RepRap wiki requires you to have 5 edits to post external links (I'm linking to this thread and thingiverse)
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 08:42AM |
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therippa
Did Folgertech put up a billboard or something? All of this new blood on the forum in the last day or two
Does anyone else think it's about time we made a wiki page of some sort regarding this printer and we can put a link in our sigs since we can't update the first post on the thread? The forum software sucks and searching for stuff isn't super helpful. When someone comes here after their first build with X-endstop issues I can't even find the well-documented posts that detail the fix (and have forgotten myself)
I have a first draft of a wiki page, just nowhere to host it since RepRap wiki requires you to have 5 edits to post external links (I'm linking to this thread and thingiverse)
I think that's a great idea, how can we help?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 10:08AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 10:25AM |
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Did I make that impressoin? I don't mind working on stuff to get it to work right, I mean I want to learn how these things work... And it's more in my price range. It seems like people are printing abs fine. Im still trying to decide on a printer.Quote
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I actually have a heated garage that stays between 40-50 degrees.Quote
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UltiFix
Think ill be able to print abs between 67 and 75 ambient temp?
I print ABS all the time. My garage is usually 50-60 F at night this time of year, and I don't need an enclosure. Heated bed stays at 100C and I usually print at 235C. The trick with ABS is getting it to stay stuck to the heated bed. I use an ABS juice (ABS dissolved in acetone) lightly spread on Kapton tape.
I was talking about this printer to somebody else, and they were saying that something he likes is having the printer frame, well each side have 1 big piece, unlike this printer it's a bunch of little pieces. Do you guys have a hard time squaring it?
UltiFix, I'm listening to all the questions you are asking... They're great questions, but I'm thinking you're the kind of guy that doesn't want to fuss with a less than perfect product. The FT kit is a great place to get started, but most of us on this forum put the kit together and then start looking for improvements to make. I can understand that not everyone wants to do that. I personally haven't had any problems keeping the aluminum 2020 frame square, but I'm hearing your concerns about the aluminum frame and the acrylic mounts and thinking you won't be satisfied with less than a 100% steel frame, out of the box. I think you ought to go with the wanhao. It looks like a fantastic 3D printer.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 10:50AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 01:03PM |
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I've ordered the Folger Tech RepRap 2020 Prusa i3 Full Aluminum 3D Printer Kit but the basement I want to put it in is fairly cool basement. In reading the forums, it sounds like temperature is fairly important for build quality so I want to build a cover for the printer (also to help keep little kids fingers out). Has anybody run across any plans (or laser cut schematics) for building a cover for this printer. I'd like to build something nice looking; i.e. a wood frame with glass/Plexi windows
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 02:37PM |
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I've ordered the Folger Tech RepRap 2020 Prusa i3 Full Aluminum 3D Printer Kit but the basement I want to put it in is fairly cool basement. In reading the forums, it sounds like temperature is fairly important for build quality so I want to build a cover for the printer (also to help keep little kids fingers out). Has anybody run across any plans (or laser cut schematics) for building a cover for this printer. I'd like to build something nice looking; i.e. a wood frame with glass/Plexi windows
Some people have made printer enclosure out of Ikea Lack tables. Seems like a pretty simple and inexpensive way of making one.
Enclosure prusa i3
Hacking IKEA tables into 3d printer enclosure
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 02:50PM |
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therippa
Did Folgertech put up a billboard or something? All of this new blood on the forum in the last day or two
Does anyone else think it's about time we made a wiki page of some sort regarding this printer and we can put a link in our sigs since we can't update the first post on the thread? The forum software sucks and searching for stuff isn't super helpful. When someone comes here after their first build with X-endstop issues I can't even find the well-documented posts that detail the fix (and have forgotten myself)
I have a first draft of a wiki page, just nowhere to host it since RepRap wiki requires you to have 5 edits to post external links (I'm linking to this thread and thingiverse)
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 03:06PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 03:48PM |
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Hi
I have an issue. I got my printer built and everything calibrated (end stops, motor voltage, etc..). I printed a couple little parts; filament temp calibration stack, calibration cube and a few other little things. everything was working great. I was printing a couple parts from an SD card when the raft wasn't sticking to the bed. I canceled the print and was going to hook my computer up to use Repetier. When I plugged the USB into my surface pro, the computer shut off instantly and the LCD contrast got extremely high, it was full of white squares. There was also a little smoke coming from the board area (couldn't tell exactly which one).
Here is what I know after this happened:
1. The arduino isn't seen when the RAMPS board is attached. I took it off and connected it by itself and all was fine.
2. The motor voltage is 2x - 3x higher than what I set them to yesterday. I had the motor voltage set to 200mv - 350mv depending on the axis. I set them by lowering them until they stop and then turning them up until they ran smoothly.
3. The SD Card is no longer recognized when inserted into the LCD.
4. The power supply seems okay. Voltage is steady.
5. I've inspected the boards for solder bridging and evidence of where the smoke was coming from but seen nothing.
6. Was working great....
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 03:50PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 03:57PM |
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therippa
I started the wikia page - [folgertech.wikia.com]
Please go enter info for what you know!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 04:14PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 04:21PM |
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UltiFix
Does this printer require any expensive software or cables to use?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 04:25PM |
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therippa
I started the wikia page - [folgertech.wikia.com]
Please go enter info for what you know!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 05:31PM |
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Fantastic, im about to order this 3D printer and ill be going through the whole thing! Please continue to add info!Quote
therippa
I started the wikia page - [folgertech.wikia.com]
Please go enter info for what you know!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 05:34PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:00PM |
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Anyone got a recommended inductive sensor, Mine just arrived and its to big to fit into any of the brackets I've printed. I got the 8mm sensing one.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) January 18, 2016 06:02PM |
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You may be masking the problem rather than fixing it. If you aren't moving at slow step rates, your driver current is probably not correct. You may have just never noticed it because you never tried to move slow before.
Do you have your X endstop on the left and plugged into the min-x position? Auto level doesn't work with x endstop at the max position and the endstop on the right. I have no idea why it wouldn't stop when it hits the x endstop unless the movement and endstop indicators are messed up somehow. But if it worked before, this shouldn't be the case. There are a lot of things than can keep G29 from working right, so it may be related to the x issue. I would fix that first.
Sorry I didn't see your reply earlier. Thanks for the help! I'll switch my x endstop to the left, make changes to x-min and see where that gets me. You're right, there seems to be lots of quirks with ABL, but there also seem to be a lot of eyes looking into it. It's one of the main things I like about OSS.
Is your insight about G29 not working on x-max endstops documented anywhere? If not, have you considered submitting a pull request to get it documented somewhere?
If I need to change my hardware to get G29 working, I have no problem with that, I just didn't know that was the case until now. I really appreciate your help.
It's documented pretty well on this forum thread I think I was the person to figure it out initially, from what I could gather checking the code and reading github issues filed against it, they just set up the math for it all to work from hardware-confirmed X0, so that's why it's necessary to move the endstop to X-min. All other Prusa variants have the X-endstop on the left/min side, and I don't think they thought anyone would just use X-max
#define HOMING_FEEDRATE {50*60, 50*60, 8*60, 0} // set the homing speeds (mm/min) //z was 4*60 feedrate, now 8*60when I dropped it down to 3*60, g28 and g29 work fine.