Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 03:57PM |
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Printing from sd card is fantastic!
I agree! It's great not to worry about messing up a print when using your computer. I do miss the feed back seen in Repitier, but I think the trade-off is worth it.
Have you looked into octoprint? It essentially makes the printer wireless. I have a raspberry pi set up with octoprint with the camera module. There is a web interface where you can view your print on the camera, see all the stats, and control your printer. If you set up port forwarding you can get to the octoprint interface from outside of your network as well (though unattended printing is a bit dangerous).
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 04:05PM |
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Interesing, I will look into it... Im tech savvy so port forwarding and setting up a rasberyy pi is no problem.Quote
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Printing from sd card is fantastic!
I agree! It's great not to worry about messing up a print when using your computer. I do miss the feed back seen in Repitier, but I think the trade-off is worth it.
Have you looked into octoprint? It essentially makes the printer wireless. I have a raspberry pi set up with octoprint with the camera module. There is a web interface where you can view your print on the camera, see all the stats, and control your printer. If you set up port forwarding you can get to the octoprint interface from outside of your network as well (though unattended printing is a bit dangerous).
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 04:06PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 05:01PM |
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I have quite a big problem at the moment. Everytime I try to print something "bigger" (Say longer than 20 minutes) The filament keeps getting curled up around the feeder. (curled around the gold part)
Everytime I have to disassemble the whole extruder which is very annoying. Additionally I have to cut the filament at the barrel entry - so now it's kind of stuck. I already tried to heat the the nozzle up but I am unable to push the filament through.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
I did not modify any hardware related things (stock i3 2020).
I am printing 1.75 mm PLA at 219° C and 70° C heatbed.
I already tried different extruder speeds but so far I have the problem at any settings.
My other problem is the support material. The layers that are directly connected to the actual product are impossible to remove.
Are there any special settings for these?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 05:07PM |
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I have quite a big problem at the moment. Everytime I try to print something "bigger" (Say longer than 20 minutes) The filament keeps getting curled up around the feeder. (curled around the gold part)
Everytime I have to disassemble the whole extruder which is very annoying. Additionally I have to cut the filament at the barrel entry - so now it's kind of stuck. I already tried to heat the the nozzle up but I am unable to push the filament through.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
I did not modify any hardware related things (stock i3 2020).
I am printing 1.75 mm PLA at 219° C and 70° C heatbed.
I already tried different extruder speeds but so far I have the problem at any settings.
My other problem is the support material. The layers that are directly connected to the actual product are impossible to remove.
Are there any special settings for these?
I think it's your temperature. Try something like 190 or 195 (this is where I print). Some here are printing PLA as low as 185, but different machines will read temp. differently If you have a faulty thermistor or poor thermal connection between it and the block, it could read 219, but the hot end could be much higher!
If things are getting way too hot for PLA, it will soften the filiment all the way up into the extruder. That looks like what I would expect if the filament got soft...
You stating that this happens with longer prints seems to confirm it's a temp issue. It may take that long before the heat builds up in the extruder to cause the softening of the filament. (is the extruder fan working ok?)
Supports being hard to remove may also be a too-hot issue. The hotter the extrude, the more it's going to sag (and adhere) into the layer below. Supports are a hit or miss thing for me. Slic3r supports are always hard (impossible) for me to remove. Cura's have done better. The way a slicer does a support may make a difference. Perhaps if the top of the support is a little under extruded, then when the layer above is put down, it doesn't stick as much, so it removes easier. (not sure if this is the case, but it makes sense that it might be) If everything is too hot, then all that gets thrown out the window.
So... Try turning down the temp and see what happens. (if you have a touchless thermometer, and can shoot it at the hot end, while not perfect, can give you a little clue ff your thermistor's faulty too)
--Andrew
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 05:48PM |
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MuckYu
I have quite a big problem at the moment. Everytime I try to print something "bigger" (Say longer than 20 minutes) The filament keeps getting curled up around the feeder. (curled around the gold part)
Everytime I have to disassemble the whole extruder which is very annoying. Additionally I have to cut the filament at the barrel entry - so now it's kind of stuck. I already tried to heat the the nozzle up but I am unable to push the filament through.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
I did not modify any hardware related things (stock i3 2020).
I am printing 1.75 mm PLA at 219° C and 70° C heatbed.
I already tried different extruder speeds but so far I have the problem at any settings.
My other problem is the support material. The layers that are directly connected to the actual product are impossible to remove.
Are there any special settings for these?
I think it's your temperature. Try something like 190 or 195 (this is where I print). Some here are printing PLA as low as 185, but different machines will read temp. differently If you have a faulty thermistor or poor thermal connection between it and the block, it could read 219, but the hot end could be much higher!
If things are getting way too hot for PLA, it will soften the filiment all the way up into the extruder. That looks like what I would expect if the filament got soft...
You stating that this happens with longer prints seems to confirm it's a temp issue. It may take that long before the heat builds up in the extruder to cause the softening of the filament. (is the extruder fan working ok?)
Supports being hard to remove may also be a too-hot issue. The hotter the extrude, the more it's going to sag (and adhere) into the layer below. Supports are a hit or miss thing for me. Slic3r supports are always hard (impossible) for me to remove. Cura's have done better. The way a slicer does a support may make a difference. Perhaps if the top of the support is a little under extruded, then when the layer above is put down, it doesn't stick as much, so it removes easier. (not sure if this is the case, but it makes sense that it might be) If everything is too hot, then all that gets thrown out the window.
So... Try turning down the temp and see what happens. (if you have a touchless thermometer, and can shoot it at the hot end, while not perfect, can give you a little clue ff your thermistor's faulty too)
--Andrew
Okay thanks for the info! I will try. However I now have a different problem. Part of the filament is still stuck in the barrel. I am not able to pull it out with pliers because it broke off flat on top. Pushing also doesn't work because the filament on top is still hard. Any idea what I can do here? I am not sure if I can put the temperature even higher because the PTFE tube might melt.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 06:48PM |
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MuckYu
I have quite a big problem at the moment. Everytime I try to print something "bigger" (Say longer than 20 minutes) The filament keeps getting curled up around the feeder. (curled around the gold part)
[i.imgur.com]
[i.imgur.com]
[i.imgur.com]
[i.imgur.com]
Everytime I have to disassemble the whole extruder which is very annoying. Additionally I have to cut the filament at the barrel entry - so now it's kind of stuck. I already tried to heat the the nozzle up but I am unable to push the filament through.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
I did not modify any hardware related things (stock i3 2020).
I am printing 1.75 mm PLA at 219° C and 70° C heatbed.
I already tried different extruder speeds but so far I have the problem at any settings.
My other problem is the support material. The layers that are directly connected to the actual product are impossible to remove.
[i.imgur.com]
Are there any special settings for these?
I think it's your temperature. Try something like 190 or 195 (this is where I print). Some here are printing PLA as low as 185, but different machines will read temp. differently If you have a faulty thermistor or poor thermal connection between it and the block, it could read 219, but the hot end could be much higher!
If things are getting way too hot for PLA, it will soften the filiment all the way up into the extruder. That looks like what I would expect if the filament got soft...
You stating that this happens with longer prints seems to confirm it's a temp issue. It may take that long before the heat builds up in the extruder to cause the softening of the filament. (is the extruder fan working ok?)
Supports being hard to remove may also be a too-hot issue. The hotter the extrude, the more it's going to sag (and adhere) into the layer below. Supports are a hit or miss thing for me. Slic3r supports are always hard (impossible) for me to remove. Cura's have done better. The way a slicer does a support may make a difference. Perhaps if the top of the support is a little under extruded, then when the layer above is put down, it doesn't stick as much, so it removes easier. (not sure if this is the case, but it makes sense that it might be) If everything is too hot, then all that gets thrown out the window.
So... Try turning down the temp and see what happens. (if you have a touchless thermometer, and can shoot it at the hot end, while not perfect, can give you a little clue ff your thermistor's faulty too)
--Andrew
Okay thanks for the info! I will try. However I now have a different problem. Part of the filament is still stuck in the barrel. I am not able to pull it out with pliers because it broke off flat on top. Pushing also doesn't work because the filament on top is still hard. Any idea what I can do here? I am not sure if I can put the temperature even higher because the PTFE tube might melt.
Did you try taking off the nozzle? Maybe then you can push it out. Your fan is running on the cool block right?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 06:55PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 07:32PM |
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MuckYu
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MuckYu
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MuckYu
I have quite a big problem at the moment. Everytime I try to print something "bigger" (Say longer than 20 minutes) The filament keeps getting curled up around the feeder. (curled around the gold part)
[i.imgur.com]
[i.imgur.com]
[i.imgur.com]
[i.imgur.com]
Everytime I have to disassemble the whole extruder which is very annoying. Additionally I have to cut the filament at the barrel entry - so now it's kind of stuck. I already tried to heat the the nozzle up but I am unable to push the filament through.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
I did not modify any hardware related things (stock i3 2020).
I am printing 1.75 mm PLA at 219° C and 70° C heatbed.
I already tried different extruder speeds but so far I have the problem at any settings.
My other problem is the support material. The layers that are directly connected to the actual product are impossible to remove.
[i.imgur.com]
Are there any special settings for these?
I think it's your temperature. Try something like 190 or 195 (this is where I print). Some here are printing PLA as low as 185, but different machines will read temp. differently If you have a faulty thermistor or poor thermal connection between it and the block, it could read 219, but the hot end could be much higher!
If things are getting way too hot for PLA, it will soften the filiment all the way up into the extruder. That looks like what I would expect if the filament got soft...
You stating that this happens with longer prints seems to confirm it's a temp issue. It may take that long before the heat builds up in the extruder to cause the softening of the filament. (is the extruder fan working ok?)
Supports being hard to remove may also be a too-hot issue. The hotter the extrude, the more it's going to sag (and adhere) into the layer below. Supports are a hit or miss thing for me. Slic3r supports are always hard (impossible) for me to remove. Cura's have done better. The way a slicer does a support may make a difference. Perhaps if the top of the support is a little under extruded, then when the layer above is put down, it doesn't stick as much, so it removes easier. (not sure if this is the case, but it makes sense that it might be) If everything is too hot, then all that gets thrown out the window.
So... Try turning down the temp and see what happens. (if you have a touchless thermometer, and can shoot it at the hot end, while not perfect, can give you a little clue ff your thermistor's faulty too)
--Andrew
Okay thanks for the info! I will try. However I now have a different problem. Part of the filament is still stuck in the barrel. I am not able to pull it out with pliers because it broke off flat on top. Pushing also doesn't work because the filament on top is still hard. Any idea what I can do here? I am not sure if I can put the temperature even higher because the PTFE tube might melt.
Did you try taking off the nozzle? Maybe then you can push it out. Your fan is running on the cool block right?
I took off the nozzle already. It is clear. The problem is inside the barrel/PTFE tube.
Here a picture: [imgur.com]
I was holding the cool block with some pliers while heating up the heating block. Then I tried to use a small screwdriver / allen key to push the filament through. Unfortunately the top as seen in the picture is still hard and it's impossible to push it through.
Edit: Okay nevermind. It seem the PTFE tube deformed and that is why I cannot push the filament through. What is the cause of this? Also the temperature?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 11, 2016 09:08PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 04:13AM |
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If you ever decide to upgrade to an E3D hotend, this fan works well: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:510957
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 09:26AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 11:33AM |
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So this is a bit of a silly question - my ramps board does not have any pins on the 12v aux. How do i connect to these pins? Do i need to solder in some pins or should I just solder the wire to the pad?
Reason I am asking is because I am current using the D9 +12v to power my induction sensor, but I want to install a cooling fan to D9 for PLA so I need to move it. Would I fry my board if I connected both the fan and induction sensor to D9?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 02:09PM |
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So this is a bit of a silly question - my ramps board does not have any pins on the 12v aux. How do i connect to these pins? Do i need to solder in some pins or should I just solder the wire to the pad?
Reason I am asking is because I am current using the D9 +12v to power my induction sensor, but I want to install a cooling fan to D9 for PLA so I need to move it. Would I fry my board if I connected both the fan and induction sensor to D9?
Those terminals can supply way higher current for the bed and hotend heater than your fan and sensor combination would pull, so there should be no problem.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 03:32PM |
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Get a print fan on that. It'll make all the difference for PLA.
I've been meaning to add a fan for similar issues. What's the best print fan for the stock FT setup?
I've printed this one as it provides cooling from both sides, although I haven't installed it yet due to using PETG.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 07:32PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 08:32PM |
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Get a print fan on that. It'll make all the difference for PLA.
I've been meaning to add a fan for similar issues. What's the best print fan for the stock FT setup?
I've printed this one as it provides cooling from both sides, although I haven't installed it yet due to using PETG.
How exactly do you reverse the Fan direction for this to work? I am not able to find the right option.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 08:35PM |
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If you ever decide to upgrade to an E3D hotend, this fan works well: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:510957
Thanks for all the fan recommendations! Adding that to the to do list...
On a different topic, I finally checked how much z movement I have. 138mm gives me a mm or two of pad. Dang. I guess I need to print the motor risers too.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 09:06PM |
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Get a print fan on that. It'll make all the difference for PLA.
I've been meaning to add a fan for similar issues. What's the best print fan for the stock FT setup?
I've printed this one as it provides cooling from both sides, although I haven't installed it yet due to using PETG.
How exactly do you reverse the Fan direction for this to work? I am not able to find the right option.
Why would you need to reverse the fan?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 09:53PM |
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Get a print fan on that. It'll make all the difference for PLA.
I've been meaning to add a fan for similar issues. What's the best print fan for the stock FT setup?
I've printed this one as it provides cooling from both sides, although I haven't installed it yet due to using PETG.
How exactly do you reverse the Fan direction for this to work? I am not able to find the right option.
Why would you need to reverse the fan?
In the comment section they say that the fan should blow "into" the extruder instead of blowing out. Someone mentioned that you have to reverse it in the firmware.
"so open up the marlin arduino firmware and there should be a fan motor reverse node and you should change it to true from false."
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 12, 2016 11:49PM |
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widespreaddeadhead
Get a print fan on that. It'll make all the difference for PLA.
I've been meaning to add a fan for similar issues. What's the best print fan for the stock FT setup?
I've printed this one as it provides cooling from both sides, although I haven't installed it yet due to using PETG.
How exactly do you reverse the Fan direction for this to work? I am not able to find the right option.
Why would you need to reverse the fan?
In the comment section they say that the fan should blow "into" the extruder instead of blowing out. Someone mentioned that you have to reverse it in the firmware.
"so open up the marlin arduino firmware and there should be a fan motor reverse node and you should change it to true from false."
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 13, 2016 12:18AM |
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widespreaddeadhead
Get a print fan on that. It'll make all the difference for PLA.
I've been meaning to add a fan for similar issues. What's the best print fan for the stock FT setup?
I've printed this one as it provides cooling from both sides, although I haven't installed it yet due to using PETG.
How exactly do you reverse the Fan direction for this to work? I am not able to find the right option.
Why would you need to reverse the fan?
In the comment section they say that the fan should blow "into" the extruder instead of blowing out. Someone mentioned that you have to reverse it in the firmware.
"so open up the marlin arduino firmware and there should be a fan motor reverse node and you should change it to true from false."
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 13, 2016 03:35PM |
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Printing from sd card is fantastic!
I agree! It's great not to worry about messing up a print when using your computer. I do miss the feed back seen in Repitier, but I think the trade-off is worth it.
Have you looked into octoprint? It essentially makes the printer wireless. I have a raspberry pi set up with octoprint with the camera module. There is a web interface where you can view your print on the camera, see all the stats, and control your printer. If you set up port forwarding you can get to the octoprint interface from outside of your network as well (though unattended printing is a bit dangerous).
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 13, 2016 06:07PM |
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Printing from sd card is fantastic!
I agree! It's great not to worry about messing up a print when using your computer. I do miss the feed back seen in Repitier, but I think the trade-off is worth it.
Have you looked into octoprint? It essentially makes the printer wireless. I have a raspberry pi set up with octoprint with the camera module. There is a web interface where you can view your print on the camera, see all the stats, and control your printer. If you set up port forwarding you can get to the octoprint interface from outside of your network as well (though unattended printing is a bit dangerous).
I just got Octoprint working with the camera, etc, and printing from the computer downstairs (and checking on the printer upstairs) is awesome. So much better than dedicating my laptop to the printer, or swapping the sd card around.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 13, 2016 06:54PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 13, 2016 10:03PM |
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Are you just using a rasberry pi?Quote
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Printing from sd card is fantastic!
I agree! It's great not to worry about messing up a print when using your computer. I do miss the feed back seen in Repitier, but I think the trade-off is worth it.
Have you looked into octoprint? It essentially makes the printer wireless. I have a raspberry pi set up with octoprint with the camera module. There is a web interface where you can view your print on the camera, see all the stats, and control your printer. If you set up port forwarding you can get to the octoprint interface from outside of your network as well (though unattended printing is a bit dangerous).
I just got Octoprint working with the camera, etc, and printing from the computer downstairs (and checking on the printer upstairs) is awesome. So much better than dedicating my laptop to the printer, or swapping the sd card around.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 13, 2016 10:25PM |
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So I replaced my pcb bed with a new one because it was very slow heating up. But the new bed is just the same. Resistance measured 1.6 on his new board and 1.8 on the old one. Could voltage be the issue? I'm seeing 11.25v when I measure the bed, shouldn't it be 12?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 13, 2016 10:32PM |
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So I replaced my pcb bed with a new one because it was very slow heating up. But the new bed is just the same. Resistance measured 1.6 on his new board and 1.8 on the old one. Could voltage be the issue? I'm seeing 11.25v when I measure the bed, shouldn't it be 12?
11.25v under load? I.e. when bed is heating? If so, thats fine. Are you placing the "lines" (copper traces) up or down? When using glass these can face up for better performance.