Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 04, 2016 11:59PM |
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UltiFix
Im liking cura, if you haven't tried it give it a go!
I've been going back and forth between Slic3r and Cura. Here's what I really like about Cura: it has a Support Type of "Touching build plate", so you can do supports just on the bottom. Slic3r has "Enforce support for the first layers" but it doesn't work.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 12:01AM |
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Im still a newbie so I should probably try slic3r again, im just lovin cura so far! It's great for me it doesn't have many options... Perfect for beginners!Quote
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Im liking cura, if you haven't tried it give it a go!
I've been going back and forth between Slic3r and Cura. Here's what I really like about Cura: it has a Support Type of "Touching build plate", so you can do supports just on the bottom. Slic3r has "Enforce support for the first layers" but it doesn't work.
I have mostly used Slic3r, but mostly because I got used to its settings. I've started using Cura more recently, and found the prints are sometimes a little better. However, I've never found it get thin walled objects right - it sometimes output nothing at all.
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Re: Steppers moving in only one direction February 05, 2016 12:48AM |
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Hey guys,
I finished my build and when I went to home X, the extruder went the opposite way of the end stop and crashed into the other side. When I told it to go back the other way (to the end stop), nothing happened and I could hear a noticeable high pitched frequency. The same exact thing happened in the Y direction with the heated bed, as well with the Z direction. All the steppers work, but only in one direction, with this high pitch frequency occurring every time for each stepper.
What do you guys think? I configured it exactly the same as in the guide. Hopefully it is not a bigger problem than a settings issue.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 01:19AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 01:27AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 02:34AM |
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For some reason, even though the BLTOUCH pulls almost no current, it was resetting my firmware. I ended up with an external supply. The MAIN problem for it going into alarm condition though was that you have to have the pin in the down position when you energize it to prevent the alarm. In the stand alone configuration, you have no way to send the reset code except if you put it at the beginning of a slicer file, which I now do just in case. It would be nice to have a menu item that would do that for me. I just can't find where that coding is located yet.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 06:26AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 06:57AM |
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My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 07:30AM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 09:23AM |
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Re: Steppers moving in only one direction February 05, 2016 09:25AM |
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shalke_52
Hey guys,
I finished my build and when I went to home X, the extruder went the opposite way of the end stop and crashed into the other side. When I told it to go back the other way (to the end stop), nothing happened and I could hear a noticeable high pitched frequency. The same exact thing happened in the Y direction with the heated bed, as well with the Z direction. All the steppers work, but only in one direction, with this high pitch frequency occurring every time for each stepper.
What do you guys think? I configured it exactly the same as in the guide. Hopefully it is not a bigger problem than a settings issue.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 09:26AM |
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For some reason, even though the BLTOUCH pulls almost no current, it was resetting my firmware. I ended up with an external supply. The MAIN problem for it going into alarm condition though was that you have to have the pin in the down position when you energize it to prevent the alarm. In the stand alone configuration, you have no way to send the reset code except if you put it at the beginning of a slicer file, which I now do just in case. It would be nice to have a menu item that would do that for me. I just can't find where that coding is located yet.
Great idea. Which code are you sending? Is it the alarm release code? (M280 P0 S160)
Thanks!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 11:38AM |
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With all the new kid's chatter about slicing software I thought I'd through S3D in the mix (I know it's expensive, but it's well worth the price of admission :-)...here is a great example of just how well the support function works in S3D.
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Yep, that's it!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 01:14PM |
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I do have a multimeter but were do I check that voltage? How do I know which way im turning the pot? Don't want to fry the motor!Quote
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My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
I also noticed my X motor getting hot (a lot hotter than the others). So I readjusted the stepper driver. I have it turned down really low (much lower than I thought was needed - around 180 I think) which has the added benefit of making it A LOT quieter. If you don't have a multimeter, turn the stepper driver down until the motor doesn't move when instructed (using the LCD or using manual control in Repetier - but remember none of the axes will move until homed first), then increase the driver in very small turns of the pot. Once the stepper motor is moving again, gently push on the extruder to see if it holds position. If not, keep increasing the driver voltage until the extruder won't move when you push on it by hand. If you've got a multimeter try going down really low - say 0.100v - and then increasing in by 0.050 each time until its moving again and then go up/down from there while doing the 'push' test.
It's no good me saying adjust it to x amount because everyone's set up is different.
Hope it helps!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 01:44PM |
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I do have a multimeter but were do I check that voltage? How do I know which way im turning the pot? Don't want to fry the motor!Quote
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UltiFix
My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
I also noticed my X motor getting hot (a lot hotter than the others). So I readjusted the stepper driver. I have it turned down really low (much lower than I thought was needed - around 180 I think) which has the added benefit of making it A LOT quieter. If you don't have a multimeter, turn the stepper driver down until the motor doesn't move when instructed (using the LCD or using manual control in Repetier - but remember none of the axes will move until homed first), then increase the driver in very small turns of the pot. Once the stepper motor is moving again, gently push on the extruder to see if it holds position. If not, keep increasing the driver voltage until the extruder won't move when you push on it by hand. If you've got a multimeter try going down really low - say 0.100v - and then increasing in by 0.050 each time until its moving again and then go up/down from there while doing the 'push' test.
It's no good me saying adjust it to x amount because everyone's set up is different.
Hope it helps!
Thanks!
-Sam
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 02:24PM |
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I do have a multimeter but were do I check that voltage? How do I know which way im turning the pot? Don't want to fry the motor!Quote
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My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
I also noticed my X motor getting hot (a lot hotter than the others). So I readjusted the stepper driver. I have it turned down really low (much lower than I thought was needed - around 180 I think) which has the added benefit of making it A LOT quieter. If you don't have a multimeter, turn the stepper driver down until the motor doesn't move when instructed (using the LCD or using manual control in Repetier - but remember none of the axes will move until homed first), then increase the driver in very small turns of the pot. Once the stepper motor is moving again, gently push on the extruder to see if it holds position. If not, keep increasing the driver voltage until the extruder won't move when you push on it by hand. If you've got a multimeter try going down really low - say 0.100v - and then increasing in by 0.050 each time until its moving again and then go up/down from there while doing the 'push' test.
It's no good me saying adjust it to x amount because everyone's set up is different.
Hope it helps!
Thanks!
-Sam
Put the positive lead on the potentiometer (the small screw head), and the ground lead on one of the ground connections on the terminal block going to the power supply. Be vary careful not to let the lead on the pot slip, or you will almost certainly fry your stepper driver and your arduino.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 02:38PM |
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I do have a multimeter but were do I check that voltage? How do I know which way im turning the pot? Don't want to fry the motor!Quote
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UltiFix
My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
I also noticed my X motor getting hot (a lot hotter than the others). So I readjusted the stepper driver. I have it turned down really low (much lower than I thought was needed - around 180 I think) which has the added benefit of making it A LOT quieter. If you don't have a multimeter, turn the stepper driver down until the motor doesn't move when instructed (using the LCD or using manual control in Repetier - but remember none of the axes will move until homed first), then increase the driver in very small turns of the pot. Once the stepper motor is moving again, gently push on the extruder to see if it holds position. If not, keep increasing the driver voltage until the extruder won't move when you push on it by hand. If you've got a multimeter try going down really low - say 0.100v - and then increasing in by 0.050 each time until its moving again and then go up/down from there while doing the 'push' test.
It's no good me saying adjust it to x amount because everyone's set up is different.
Hope it helps!
Thanks!
-Sam
Put the positive lead on the potentiometer (the small screw head), and the ground lead on one of the ground connections on the terminal block going to the power supply. Be vary careful not to let the lead on the pot slip, or you will almost certainly fry your stepper driver and your arduino.
I heard somebody said to shut the printer off everytime you adjust it, is that a good idea?
Just measured my motor over 62c, I think I need to do something about it... If I turn the pot up on acciden't will I instantly fry my stepper motor?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 02:44PM |
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As I turn the pot counter clockwise a high pitch noise get's louder and louder, is that correct? Also am I supposed to be in DCMAH? In that mode I got no reading, positive lead on POT negative lead in negative dc terminal on PSU.Quote
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I do have a multimeter but were do I check that voltage? How do I know which way im turning the pot? Don't want to fry the motor!Quote
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UltiFix
My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
I also noticed my X motor getting hot (a lot hotter than the others). So I readjusted the stepper driver. I have it turned down really low (much lower than I thought was needed - around 180 I think) which has the added benefit of making it A LOT quieter. If you don't have a multimeter, turn the stepper driver down until the motor doesn't move when instructed (using the LCD or using manual control in Repetier - but remember none of the axes will move until homed first), then increase the driver in very small turns of the pot. Once the stepper motor is moving again, gently push on the extruder to see if it holds position. If not, keep increasing the driver voltage until the extruder won't move when you push on it by hand. If you've got a multimeter try going down really low - say 0.100v - and then increasing in by 0.050 each time until its moving again and then go up/down from there while doing the 'push' test.
It's no good me saying adjust it to x amount because everyone's set up is different.
Hope it helps!
Thanks!
-Sam
Put the positive lead on the potentiometer (the small screw head), and the ground lead on one of the ground connections on the terminal block going to the power supply. Be vary careful not to let the lead on the pot slip, or you will almost certainly fry your stepper driver and your arduino.
I heard somebody said to shut the printer off everytime you adjust it, is that a good idea?
Just measured my motor over 62c, I think I need to do something about it... If I turn the pot up on acciden't will I instantly fry my stepper motor?
While adjusting your stepper current, you cannot have the printer off. When the stepper gets too hot due to to much current, I will start to temporarily shut itself off. Counter-clockwise decreases current. Definitely take care of the problem though, since you will start to get skipped steps during prints when it starts to shut itself off. Yes DC mode
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 02:52PM |
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As I turn the pot counter clockwise a high pitch noise get's louder and louder, is that correct? Also am I supposed to be in DCMAH? In that mode I got no reading, positive lead on POT negative lead in negative dc terminal on PSU.Quote
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I do have a multimeter but were do I check that voltage? How do I know which way im turning the pot? Don't want to fry the motor!Quote
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UltiFix
My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
I also noticed my X motor getting hot (a lot hotter than the others). So I readjusted the stepper driver. I have it turned down really low (much lower than I thought was needed - around 180 I think) which has the added benefit of making it A LOT quieter. If you don't have a multimeter, turn the stepper driver down until the motor doesn't move when instructed (using the LCD or using manual control in Repetier - but remember none of the axes will move until homed first), then increase the driver in very small turns of the pot. Once the stepper motor is moving again, gently push on the extruder to see if it holds position. If not, keep increasing the driver voltage until the extruder won't move when you push on it by hand. If you've got a multimeter try going down really low - say 0.100v - and then increasing in by 0.050 each time until its moving again and then go up/down from there while doing the 'push' test.
It's no good me saying adjust it to x amount because everyone's set up is different.
Hope it helps!
Thanks!
-Sam
Put the positive lead on the potentiometer (the small screw head), and the ground lead on one of the ground connections on the terminal block going to the power supply. Be vary careful not to let the lead on the pot slip, or you will almost certainly fry your stepper driver and your arduino.
I heard somebody said to shut the printer off everytime you adjust it, is that a good idea?
Just measured my motor over 62c, I think I need to do something about it... If I turn the pot up on acciden't will I instantly fry my stepper motor?
While adjusting your stepper current, you cannot have the printer off. When the stepper gets too hot due to to much current, I will start to temporarily shut itself off. Counter-clockwise decreases current. Definitely take care of the problem though, since you will start to get skipped steps during prints when it starts to shut itself off. Yes DC mode
Thanks! Don't want to fry anything
-Sam
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 02:57PM |
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Edit, I redid it and watched a youtube video, not sure what I did differentl'y but now im getting a reading, yay! Should I bring it between .100 and .200? Roughly?Quote
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As I turn the pot counter clockwise a high pitch noise get's louder and louder, is that correct? Also am I supposed to be in DCMAH? In that mode I got no reading, positive lead on POT negative lead in negative dc terminal on PSU.Quote
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I do have a multimeter but were do I check that voltage? How do I know which way im turning the pot? Don't want to fry the motor!Quote
Boffster
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UltiFix
My x axis motor is really hot, should I be worried if it gets over40c?I mean 50c, gets hotter than I thought.
I also noticed my X motor getting hot (a lot hotter than the others). So I readjusted the stepper driver. I have it turned down really low (much lower than I thought was needed - around 180 I think) which has the added benefit of making it A LOT quieter. If you don't have a multimeter, turn the stepper driver down until the motor doesn't move when instructed (using the LCD or using manual control in Repetier - but remember none of the axes will move until homed first), then increase the driver in very small turns of the pot. Once the stepper motor is moving again, gently push on the extruder to see if it holds position. If not, keep increasing the driver voltage until the extruder won't move when you push on it by hand. If you've got a multimeter try going down really low - say 0.100v - and then increasing in by 0.050 each time until its moving again and then go up/down from there while doing the 'push' test.
It's no good me saying adjust it to x amount because everyone's set up is different.
Hope it helps!
Thanks!
-Sam
Put the positive lead on the potentiometer (the small screw head), and the ground lead on one of the ground connections on the terminal block going to the power supply. Be vary careful not to let the lead on the pot slip, or you will almost certainly fry your stepper driver and your arduino.
I heard somebody said to shut the printer off everytime you adjust it, is that a good idea?
Just measured my motor over 62c, I think I need to do something about it... If I turn the pot up on acciden't will I instantly fry my stepper motor?
While adjusting your stepper current, you cannot have the printer off. When the stepper gets too hot due to to much current, I will start to temporarily shut itself off. Counter-clockwise decreases current. Definitely take care of the problem though, since you will start to get skipped steps during prints when it starts to shut itself off. Yes DC mode
Thanks! Don't want to fry anything
-Sam
Your stepper must be different from mine. CCW lowers the current on mine. You should be on DCV.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 02:59PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 03:05PM |
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UltiFix
WOW, O MY GOSH
I lowered my stepper voltage for my x axis to .217 and it's so much quieter!!! I can't believe how much of a difference that made! And it's sooooooo smooth!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 03:08PM |
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WOW, O MY GOSH
I lowered my stepper voltage for my x axis to .217 and it's so much quieter!!! I can't believe how much of a difference that made! And it's sooooooo smooth!
I'm not quite sure what range it should be since I adjusted mine by sound, but I think .2 is abit low. You do not want it too low or it will skip steps and/or be more subject to losing precision.
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 03:11PM |
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WOW, O MY GOSH
I lowered my stepper voltage for my x axis to .217 and it's so much quieter!!! I can't believe how much of a difference that made! And it's sooooooo smooth!
I'm not quite sure what range it should be since I adjusted mine by sound, but I think .2 is abit low. You do not want it too low or it will skip steps and/or be more subject to losing precision.Alright, I set it I think about 227, it's weird sometimes my MM shows it as .200 but now it's showing it as 200 instead of .200, not sure?
Maybe im having memory loss, I just tested it and it's like it should be.
Well it's still super quite and it doesn't move by me pushing on it so im going to do a test print and see how it goes!
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 03:40PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 08:03PM |
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Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 05, 2016 09:01PM |
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Yep it was my thermistor. now the my nex issue is my firmware doesn't show my extruder active. any idea how to do this?
Re: Folger Tech 2020 i3 Printer Kit (Official Thread) February 06, 2016 12:03AM |
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