(small) Feature request
Posted by unromeo21
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(small) Feature request May 03, 2017 02:09PM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 109 |
So.. this happened to me a couple of times and it seems that it doesn't get into my head that I should NOT interrupt a print in the early stage while heating up the bed and with the axes not homed yet by clicking on "Pause Print".... My pause script than does it's job, sending my carriage into the "hard limits" of my printer with loud noises... Could that button check for homed axes before executing any moves in the pause script ?
Or .. should I just click on "Emergency Stop" if I want to cancel the print in the warming up phase ?
Thanks !
Or .. should I just click on "Emergency Stop" if I want to cancel the print in the warming up phase ?
Thanks !
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Re: (small) Feature request May 03, 2017 02:51PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 517 |
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Re: (small) Feature request May 03, 2017 05:39PM |
Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 14,672 |
I always home the axes before heating, or at the same time i.e. start heating, home axes, wait for heating to finish, then run auto calibration or bed compensation, then print.
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Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod
Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
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Re: (small) Feature request May 03, 2017 05:45PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 517 |
The problem is, at least for me with S3D is that it doesn't start running the user's script until after the printer has heated up. Homing the printer is the first thing in my script, but that doesn't happen until after the heating. If there is a way to change how S3D does this, I would be glad to make that change.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 04, 2017 12:09AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 71 |
M83 ; relative extruder moves G1 E-4 F2500 ; retract 4mm G91 ; relative moves G1 Z10 F600 ; raise nozzle 10mmThis is my entire pause script. I've never had the issue of hitting hard limits, simply because it doesn't try to go anywhere but up. I pause during heating up all the time with this.
I also always start the heating process, upload the file while it's heating, then start the print once I'm good and ready. That way I can monitor the first print moves to make sure the print has started correctly. I don't need the whole print going to hell because the first layer messed up due to improper bed leveling, or there was an issue with the filament or something. Just like one would never run a job on a CNC-whatever (mill, lathe, etc) without watching at least the first moves.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2017 12:12AM by Masterjuggler.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 04, 2017 12:17AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 517 |
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Re: (small) Feature request May 04, 2017 12:54AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 71 |
Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that you don't. I just ranted a bit too long about the reasoning behind my process. What I was trying to say was that I think it's easier to time watching the first layer when starting the print after it's heated, rather than having to watch it and trying to time it when the printer thinks it's heated up enough.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2017 12:55AM by Masterjuggler.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/04/2017 12:55AM by Masterjuggler.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 04, 2017 02:54AM |
Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 5,232 |
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Re: (small) Feature request May 04, 2017 09:16AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 517 |
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Masterjuggler
Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that you don't. I just ranted a bit too long about the reasoning behind my process. What I was trying to say was that I think it's easier to time watching the first layer when starting the print after it's heated, rather than having to watch it and trying to time it when the printer thinks it's heated up enough.
So it is you have to time starting the print after heating or time watching the print after it heats. Personally, I prefer the later since I can be working on something else and when I hear the printer, I know when to start watching.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 05, 2017 03:03AM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 109 |
I know, the solution here would be to edit the Pause script so it only raises the head a little bit, but when I pause I also want to have full access to the print for different actions, so this is a little bit unpractical.
I also use S3D, so yes, homing the printer is always done after heating. Can it be configured to do a home before anything else ?
Sometimes I just need to cancel the print in the early stages before it starts printing because I forgot to add something to the slicer config or I changed my mind about a specific slicer property, it happens..
I also use S3D, so yes, homing the printer is always done after heating. Can it be configured to do a home before anything else ?
Sometimes I just need to cancel the print in the early stages before it starts printing because I forgot to add something to the slicer config or I changed my mind about a specific slicer property, it happens..
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Re: (small) Feature request May 05, 2017 04:53AM |
Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 14,672 |
In firmware 1.19alpha I've changed things so that pause.g, resume.g and cancel.g are not run unless all axes have been homed.
Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod
Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod
Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
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Re: (small) Feature request May 05, 2017 08:13AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 517 |
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dc42
In firmware 1.19alpha I've changed things so that pause.g, resume.g and cancel.g are not run unless all axes have been homed.
While that will fix the problem with movement, there are still activities in those scripts that should be performed, such as turning off heaters, fans, lights, or other items that were activated at the start of the print.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 05, 2017 09:02AM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 109 |
Well, if we don't do any moves with cancel.g and only turn off fans,temps, etc, than there is no need to include it in the homing check.
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ElmoC
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dc42
In firmware 1.19alpha I've changed things so that pause.g, resume.g and cancel.g are not run unless all axes have been homed.
While that will fix the problem with movement, there are still activities in those scripts that should be performed, such as turning off heaters, fans, lights, or other items that were activated at the start of the print.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 05, 2017 09:14AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 517 |
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unromeo21
Well, if we don't do any moves with cancel.g and only turn off fans,temps, etc, than there is no need to include it in the homing check.
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ElmoC
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dc42
In firmware 1.19alpha I've changed things so that pause.g, resume.g and cancel.g are not run unless all axes have been homed.
While that will fix the problem with movement, there are still activities in those scripts that should be performed, such as turning off heaters, fans, lights, or other items that were activated at the start of the print.
Not sure what you are trying to say. If the print had actually moved the hotend, I would want the hotend moved after the cancel in addition to the other activities.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 05, 2017 10:38AM |
Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 14,672 |
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unromeo21
Well, if we don't do any moves with cancel.g and only turn off fans,temps, etc, than there is no need to include it in the homing check.
If the printer has not been homed, then on print cancellation the firmware behaves as if cancel.g is not present, i.e. turns off all the heaters.
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ElmoC
Not sure what you are trying to say. If the print had actually moved the hotend, I would want the hotend moved after the cancel in addition to the other activities.
If you moved the head during the print, you should have homed it first.
Large delta printer [miscsolutions.wordpress.com], E3D tool changer, Robotdigg SCARA printer, Crane Quad and Ormerod
Disclosure: I design Duet electronics and work on RepRapFirmware, [duet3d.com].
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Re: (small) Feature request May 06, 2017 07:45PM |
Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 93 |
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Re: (small) Feature request May 07, 2017 06:46AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 893 |
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roboprint
David, is it possible to add G28 command parameter to support "home only if not already homed" behaviour? Sometimes this can help for those (including me) who forget to home printer before print.
I put a homing command in the slicer's startup script that gets added to the beginning of every gcode file I produce - every time I print that file, it homes everything before trying to lay down filament
(unless I have mis-understood what you're trying to achieve!
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Re: (small) Feature request May 07, 2017 07:21AM |
Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 93 |
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David J
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roboprint
David, is it possible to add G28 command parameter to support "home only if not already homed" behaviour? Sometimes this can help for those (including me) who forget to home printer before print.
I put a homing command in the slicer's startup script that gets added to the beginning of every gcode file I produce - every time I print that file, it homes everything before trying to lay down filament
(unless I have mis-understood what you're trying to achieve!
Yes, this is exactly what I want. But I want this G28 command to work only if printer is not already homed. For example, if G28 does not contain S1 parameter - it will always home. But if G28 contain S1 parameter it will home only if not already homed. In this case I can add G28 S1 to every g-code file and I will be sure that printer will not be homed again before print if it already homed.
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Re: (small) Feature request May 07, 2017 07:37AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 517 |
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Re: (small) Feature request May 07, 2017 08:06AM |
Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 93 |
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ElmoC
Does homing take so long on your printer? It doesn't seem it would take long to home if already homed.
Homing procedure is fast enough. But sometimes I don't want to re-home before second print of the same thing (after first print) because sometimes I use G92 Z0 for better first layer and so on. Also this feature will be useful for those who using z-probe for autocalibration to keep results (homing can affect results of previous calibration).
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