Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb
Posted by Napalm1432
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Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 16, 2017 11:22AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
Hi there,
So i was planning to use a raspberry pi to run the web interface of the duet with a crosscable, failing at that, i thought it was easier setting up octopi and running that over usb (i'm aware of the consequences of slower write speeds).
So i set up a raspi with octopi, using the adfruit 3.5 inch touchscreen, everything set up, until, i connect it to the duet board.
When trying to connect from raspberry pi i get the error Unhandled communication error, please set the serial port manually.
I checked my cabling and everything shoul be fine.
No one thing i haven't done yet, is having a power supply hooked up to the duet board, so there's just a usb cable attached between the duet and raspi, but i assume this should still connect right?
I hope you can be of help!
So i was planning to use a raspberry pi to run the web interface of the duet with a crosscable, failing at that, i thought it was easier setting up octopi and running that over usb (i'm aware of the consequences of slower write speeds).
So i set up a raspi with octopi, using the adfruit 3.5 inch touchscreen, everything set up, until, i connect it to the duet board.
When trying to connect from raspberry pi i get the error Unhandled communication error, please set the serial port manually.
I checked my cabling and everything shoul be fine.
No one thing i haven't done yet, is having a power supply hooked up to the duet board, so there's just a usb cable attached between the duet and raspi, but i assume this should still connect right?
I hope you can be of help!
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 16, 2017 01:30PM |
Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 558 |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 17, 2017 01:57AM |
Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 5,232 |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 17, 2017 03:19PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 92 |
I'm running OctoPrint with my Duet 0.6 board, and have been for a while.
I send commands over a USB connection to the Duet, just like you outlined, and there's no need for a router and another PC if you've got the touchscreen up and running.
It's probably an issue with your connection settings within OctoPrint.
For what it's worth, I've attached screengrabs of settings that work for me.
I send commands over a USB connection to the Duet, just like you outlined, and there's no need for a router and another PC if you've got the touchscreen up and running.
It's probably an issue with your connection settings within OctoPrint.
For what it's worth, I've attached screengrabs of settings that work for me.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 18, 2017 09:01AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
i attached a power supply to see if that might have been the issue, but i still get the same error.
I also put in the same settings as Maso, however, i cannot select a serial port other than auto, so still no connection
EDIT:
I do notice, that the 5v light on the duet board doesn't light up untill usb is plugged in, even though the Vin on the duet is on, do i need to set a jumper next to the power input?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2017 09:07AM by Napalm1432.
I also put in the same settings as Maso, however, i cannot select a serial port other than auto, so still no connection
EDIT:
I do notice, that the 5v light on the duet board doesn't light up untill usb is plugged in, even though the Vin on the duet is on, do i need to set a jumper next to the power input?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2017 09:07AM by Napalm1432.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 18, 2017 11:11AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 92 |
Check out this picture:
There's an "External 5V Enable" and a "Board 5V Enable" header on there.
I'm pretty sure you have to choose one. (EDIT: Try the "Board 5V Enable". I think the "External 5V Enable" is for when you have an ATX supply attached.)
Also, on the Pi, try typing
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2017 11:17AM by maso.
There's an "External 5V Enable" and a "Board 5V Enable" header on there.
I'm pretty sure you have to choose one. (EDIT: Try the "Board 5V Enable". I think the "External 5V Enable" is for when you have an ATX supply attached.)
Also, on the Pi, try typing
ls /devwithout the Duet plugged in, and then with it plugged in, and see if something new has shown up. That's your USB device. If you don't see a change, OctoPrint will never find it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2017 11:17AM by maso.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 18, 2017 03:28PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 18, 2017 04:28PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 92 |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 03:21AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
alright, so part of the problem was indeed the usb cable, when first pluggin into my pc it did nothing, now with a new cable it at least recognizes a device.
But, that only solves the cable issue so far, when trying to connect it to my pc, i have to install the drivers, however, the only unknown devices are these: [prntscr.com]
And when trying to update the drivers for them, they always fail. So, my next issue is, still connecting to the board (i've repetier host installed to test with)
But, that only solves the cable issue so far, when trying to connect it to my pc, i have to install the drivers, however, the only unknown devices are these: [prntscr.com]
And when trying to update the drivers for them, they always fail. So, my next issue is, still connecting to the board (i've repetier host installed to test with)
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 08:50AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
Does the Duet show up under "Ports (COM and LPT)"?
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 11:03AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 92 |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 12:26PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
i might be stupid right now, but shouldn't COM ports be listed under the device manager?
Here's a screenshot of what shows up in device manager:
[prntscr.com]
When i knew the usb cable was good, i first tested it on the raspberry in the hope that it worked, but no luck, problem persists
EDIT:
When attaching an arduino it does show up though:
[prntscr.com]
EDIT: When i plug in the duet in my pc, it does not show com ports, but, it does try installing drivers and then it fails ofcourse, but it wants to install drivers for this:
[prntscr.com]
I already tried to install drivers for those manually, but no luck
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2017 12:35PM by Napalm1432.
Here's a screenshot of what shows up in device manager:
[prntscr.com]
When i knew the usb cable was good, i first tested it on the raspberry in the hope that it worked, but no luck, problem persists
EDIT:
When attaching an arduino it does show up though:
[prntscr.com]
EDIT: When i plug in the duet in my pc, it does not show com ports, but, it does try installing drivers and then it fails ofcourse, but it wants to install drivers for this:
[prntscr.com]
I already tried to install drivers for those manually, but no luck
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2017 12:35PM by Napalm1432.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 01:46PM |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 02:39PM |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 04:07PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
You appear to have a USB controller with no device driver installed. Right click that device in Device Manager, select Properties, then Details, then Hardware IDs and let us know what it displays.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2017 04:07PM by dc42.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2017 04:07PM by dc42.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 04:37PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
The usb controller shows this: [prntscr.com]
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 04:56PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
So this site [pcidatabase.com] says it is a standard Intel USB host controller and the driver download is at [downloadcenter.intel.com].
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 05:35PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 19, 2017 06:07PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
Perhaps it's time to press the firmware Erase button on the Duet, followed by the Reset button, and see whether the Bossa port shows up.
First check what LEDs are lit on the Duet. You should have the red 5V LED, the red 5V USB LEDs and the green 3.3V LED.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2017 06:09PM by dc42.
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First check what LEDs are lit on the Duet. You should have the red 5V LED, the red 5V USB LEDs and the green 3.3V LED.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2017 06:09PM by dc42.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 03:46AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
After resetting the firmware a new device does show up under serial bus controllers as an unknown device:
[prntscr.com]
(Yes the correct lights were lit)
EDIT:
I also checked the SAM-BA USB Notice, which says to update that device with the driver in the samba directory, but when trying that, it says it already has the newest drivers installed (which i kind of weird for an unknown device but okay)
EDIT EDIT:
Okay, so i uninstalled the driver of that unknown device, re-plugged the duet, and now it shows up as COM9 (Craftbot 3d Printer firmware Loader)
Now ofcourse craftbot is not correct, BUT i am able to make a connection using repetier host
EDIT: Installed the duet drivers on the com port
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 04:11AM by Napalm1432.
[prntscr.com]
(Yes the correct lights were lit)
EDIT:
I also checked the SAM-BA USB Notice, which says to update that device with the driver in the samba directory, but when trying that, it says it already has the newest drivers installed (which i kind of weird for an unknown device but okay)
EDIT EDIT:
Okay, so i uninstalled the driver of that unknown device, re-plugged the duet, and now it shows up as COM9 (Craftbot 3d Printer firmware Loader)
Now ofcourse craftbot is not correct, BUT i am able to make a connection using repetier host
EDIT: Installed the duet drivers on the com port
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 04:11AM by Napalm1432.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 04:11AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
The correct Windows driver for the Duet is at [github.com].
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 04:17AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
Com port no shows up as Bossa Program Port
even though repetier host SEEMS to connect, when i try from pronterface, it fails to connect however.
It seems repetier host says it's connected when trying to send the M105 command.
Just to check i also followed the instructions using the arduino IDE
The com port shows up, and i can select the right board, when going to serial monitor, made sure baudrate was 115200 and newline was set.
When i send the M105 command i get no response. Also, the message: RepRapFirmware is up and running. does not show up (even when opening serial monitor immediatly after pressing reset)
I' guessing the firmware isn't running?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 07:43AM by Napalm1432.
even though repetier host SEEMS to connect, when i try from pronterface, it fails to connect however.
It seems repetier host says it's connected when trying to send the M105 command.
Just to check i also followed the instructions using the arduino IDE
The com port shows up, and i can select the right board, when going to serial monitor, made sure baudrate was 115200 and newline was set.
When i send the M105 command i get no response. Also, the message: RepRapFirmware is up and running. does not show up (even when opening serial monitor immediatly after pressing reset)
I' guessing the firmware isn't running?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 07:43AM by Napalm1432.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 10:36AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
If you mean that the COM port now shows up as Bossa port, that means there is no firmware on the board. Download Bossa 1.8 from shumatech.com and use it to install RepRapFirmware.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 10:37AM by dc42.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 10:37AM by dc42.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 11:03AM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
YES YES that fixed it all 
just a note for myself if i ever run into the same problem, when uploading the firmware with Bossa, do erase all and boot to flash
I've tested it on pc and on the octopi both are now able to connect, tested sending the M105 command and got the right response!
It doesn't seem to initialize the sd card in octopi right now though, i'm looking for a fix now
Running an M20 from the octopi terminal does list the gcode files (only 1, the testprint.gcode)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 11:23AM by Napalm1432.
just a note for myself if i ever run into the same problem, when uploading the firmware with Bossa, do erase all and boot to flash
I've tested it on pc and on the octopi both are now able to connect, tested sending the M105 command and got the right response!
It doesn't seem to initialize the sd card in octopi right now though, i'm looking for a fix now
Running an M20 from the octopi terminal does list the gcode files (only 1, the testprint.gcode)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2017 11:23AM by Napalm1432.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 04:04PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
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Napalm1432
YES YES that fixed it all
just a note for myself if i ever run into the same problem, when uploading the firmware with Bossa, do erase all and boot to flash
Best check Lock too.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 04:17PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 92 |
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Napalm1432
It doesn't seem to initialize the sd card in octopi right now though, i'm looking for a fix now
Running an M20 from the octopi terminal does list the gcode files (only 1, the testprint.gcode)
I haven't ever put any effort into using OctoPrint to access g-codes from the Duet's SD card.
In my experience with RAMPS and other boards, it takes a long time to send g-code files over the serial USB connection, and OctoPrint has a harder time managing everything (timelapse videos, g-code preview, estimated time remaining, etc.).
I find it much cleaner to store the g-codes on OctoPrint itself and print from there.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 04:50PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
The Duet is optimised for uploading files to the built-in SD card and printing them from there. File uploading over USB will be much slower than over the network. Also built-in functions such as pause/resume and resume after power failure only work when you are printing from SD card.
If you do want to print and/or upload files over USB, make sure that the sender does not wait for an OK response after sending each line of gcode. Many USB host programs have this as an option. Last time I looked, Octoprint didn't, but someone did a patch for it.
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If you do want to print and/or upload files over USB, make sure that the sender does not wait for an OK response after sending each line of gcode. Many USB host programs have this as an option. Last time I looked, Octoprint didn't, but someone did a patch for it.
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb July 20, 2017 06:05PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 29 |
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dc42
If you do want to print and/or upload files over USB, make sure that the sender does not wait for an OK response after sending each line of gcode. Many USB host programs have this as an option. Last time I looked, Octoprint didn't, but someone did a patch for it.
I think i have seen some kind of option that looks like that, i will check after the weekend!
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb September 04, 2017 01:55PM |
Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 174 |
I need to make my Ormerod portable. And that means Of need a other way of connecting to it rather than LAN. Since my new Dell Venue Tablet does not have Lan.
Now I need it to be WiFi but I cannot carry around a big old modem to create a. Access Point.
So I have been looking into using my raspberry Pi to create a wireless access point and run Octoprint as well.
It Is don't know a thing about networks.
My question is, is wat In want to do, possible?
Now I need it to be WiFi but I cannot carry around a big old modem to create a. Access Point.
So I have been looking into using my raspberry Pi to create a wireless access point and run Octoprint as well.
It Is don't know a thing about networks.
My question is, is wat In want to do, possible?
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Re: Octopi with duet 0.8.5 usb September 04, 2017 03:21PM |
Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,646 |
Why not buy a TPLink WR710 mini router? Or whatever updated model has replaced it now.
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