Forrest Higgs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Now you guys come around and insist that Zach > abandon even the little amount of protection that > that clause gives them again for your convenience. > I'm not a board member, but frankly if I were I'd > show you how to fold that idea up to where it was > all sharp corners and then suggest toby RobertCollins - General
ZachHoeken Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Okay, two things, and let me preface this with > saying that I am the Director of the RRRF, so you > can take this as the official word from the RRRF. > > 1. I brought this issue up with the RRRF board > members, and we took it to a vote. The new > wording is this: > > "Members agree to use aby RobertCollins - General
> What we're going to do: Contact some decent FLOSS lawyers, (EFF, > Groklaw, CC, etc.) and ask them for advice and to draw up a legal > policy, if we even need one. This may take as much as a month to sort > out. Great news - thanks! Re: Robert Teeter - while your points about what the rrrf are obligated vs may choose to do are correct as a matter of law they completely ignore thby RobertCollins - General
I think that that is a great improvement in the wording. However I still find the idea of having to have a bin of parts labelled 'never sell' (e.g. if I decide to stop building a reprap) entirely objectionable; so I'll be looking at entirely non-RRRF sourcing of parts. You are entirely right that folk building on reprap is going to be key. If you need patent advice; get a quote from a lawyer ('by RobertCollins - General
If commercial means profit, then the text should say profit. But its still pretty hard to understand why the clause is there at all; given the possible stuff listed in the thread so far: - if its to protect against patent infringement concerns - well, IANAL etc, but patents are not limited to companies, we are all at risk if there are patents being violated in the execution of the darwin/repstrby RobertCollins - General
On the member rules contain: """ Members agree to use all hardware supplied to them by the RRRF for research purposes only and not to use it for commercial gain. """ Is this meant to be transitive? I mean: If I buy RRRF repstrap parts -> build repstrap -> use repstrap to build darwin -> use darwin to build darwin and give to someone that wants a darwin -> that person decides to selby RobertCollins - General
The reason we're reinventing the wheel is that the previous inventors have not released their designs, so we cannot improve on them.by RobertCollins - Australia, Sydney RUG