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Hot end failures

Posted by Plato 
Hot end failures
May 06, 2013 07:08AM
Hi,

I have problems with my hot end. Filament melts before reaching the nozzle and the hot end become clogged at around the middle. I ordered a new one and waiting for it.
I want to ask a general question about hot ends.

What are the causes of hot end failures? and What solutions can be employed?
Alternative question: What are the ideal properties of an ideal hot end?

Please share your experiences. (may write down or give links)
Re: Hot end failures
May 06, 2013 10:52AM
What hotend are you using?

Are you actively cooling the top part of the hotend with a fan?
Re: Hot end failures
May 06, 2013 11:30AM
If using an all metal or some other types they require a fan to cool the upper portion of the hotend. Some companies use heatsyncs to address this issue.
Re: Hot end failures
May 06, 2013 10:14PM
What temperature are you running at?
Re: Hot end failures
May 13, 2013 08:50AM
ShadowRam Wrote:
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> What hotend are you using?
>
> Are you actively cooling the top part of the
> hotend with a fan?


I attached the picture of my hotend. Picture is taken from nextday reprap. But I didn't buy it from them.
Attachments:
open | download - hotend.jpg (11.3 KB)
Re: Hot end failures
May 13, 2013 08:54AM
MultipleMonomials Wrote:
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> What temperature are you running at?


I run at 195 degree Celcius for pla. I tried some higher temperature up to 225. However the problem is pla melts before the nozzle and hot end become clogged at around the middles.
Re: Hot end failures
May 13, 2013 10:59AM
Are you cooling the thermal break with a fan? That is usually required with PLA.


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Re: Hot end failures
May 14, 2013 10:15AM
NewPerfection Wrote:
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> Are you cooling the thermal break with a fan?
> That is usually required with PLA.


No. I don't use a fan. In fact, I don't think it will work. Because in this model, a brass tube is threaded inside PEEK. So fan can not cool down inner parts. PEEK provides insulation.
Re: Hot end failures
May 14, 2013 10:30AM
You can still cool the PEEK.

The J-Head is PEEK, and requires cooling.

You mind as well try it, what do you have to lose?

Small PC fan and some zip ties.
Re: Hot end failures
May 14, 2013 01:07PM
Plato Wrote:
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> PEEK provides insulation.

The PEEK needs to be kept cool for PLA, otherwise the PLA bulges before getting into the brass heated area and jams.


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Re: Hot end failures
August 14, 2013 08:10PM
I'm using a Prusa i3 with the Magma hot end (all metal). Despite setting up the fan to be always on, it doesn't seem to cool the top (cold) part enough for PLA. I get jams about 30 minutes into a print run when using PLA.

I'm going to try adding a heat sink in addition to the fan.

I have found some interesting things taking thermocouple and infrared thermometer readings in various places. I've only gotten started but had some interesting findings on the heated bed (effective temperature on the glass was 30C less than reported by the thermocouple, wide variance between center and edges of heated bed).

I'd like to take some readings on the Magma upper parts over a print run and see where it's overheating...
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