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slicing revolved / axisymmetric parts

Posted by mullenc525 
slicing revolved / axisymmetric parts
January 22, 2014 02:34AM
Hello,

I have a part that is composed of a revolved feature - that is, a part that could be produced on a lathe. Cura is doing a poor job of producing it.

The entire part could be produced with extruded circles, which would be very fast and neat. However, I don't see any way to do 'polar' fill patterns. So cura is doing all the infill between circular shells in a cartesian pattern. This makes a tonne of opportunities for blobbing and is killing the quality of the part.

Also, It is travelling up z in the same location (at the top of the pic) so all the minor blobs from z travel are adding up in the same location, causing a mess.

Is there a way to get polar infill patterns?

Is there a way to randomize where the layer begins so that all the blobs don't happen in the same place?
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Re: slicing revolved / axisymmetric parts
January 22, 2014 03:11AM
Im sure Sli3r can do both of those. But that doesnt answer your question.
Re: slicing revolved / axisymmetric parts
January 22, 2014 03:43AM
Switching back to slicer, I can see there is a concentric fill option. Although it didn't actually do so on the first 3 layers, it just layed them down linear.

I am running a 0.4mm magma hot end so I've designed the wall thicknesses all as 1.2mm. For some reason however, both slicer and cura fill the walls in one solid circle followed by a dashed circle(very slow) then another solid circle.

If you unwrapped the circles it is printing, the three layers look like:

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- - - - - - - -
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The middle ring is extremely slow and makes everything messy from all the stop starts. I just want this thing to extrude out lots of concentric rings!
Re: slicing revolved / axisymmetric parts
January 22, 2014 04:17AM
Here's a good diagram. This is sliced in Cura but slicer does the same thing.

You can see the middle extrusion of each wall is a dashed line instead of a concentric ring.

I confirmed this is because the slicer is making some sort of assumption that the extrusion will be different in width than the nozzle. I remodelled the part with 1.3mm walls instead, and it now prints 4 continuous concentric rings nice and fast. The bottom layers filled in concentric also as I set the shell thickness high.

Only problem is cura still steps up z in the same place every time blobbing that region. Any fix to that?
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Re: slicing revolved / axisymmetric parts
January 22, 2014 05:24AM
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mullenc525
Only problem is cura still steps up z in the same place every time blobbing that region. Any fix to that?

Sounds like you may need to tweek your retraction settings.


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mullenc525
confirmed this is because the slicer is making some sort of assumption that the extrusion will be different in width than the nozzle. I remodelled the part with 1.3mm walls instead, and it now prints 4 continuous concentric rings nice and fast. The bottom layers filled in concentric also as I set the shell thickness high.

I've printed quite a few tube shapes (as adaptors to my workshop vacuum cleaner to connect to various power tools), and I've found that none of the slicers make a good job at getting the internal diameter correct.

I've also tried setting my wall width to a multiple of the nozzle width, but that didn't work.

Based on what you've seen it looks like Cura is adding about 8.33% (1.3 instead of 1.2) to the width in its calculation - which seems very odd
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