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A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis

A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
November 18, 2020 01:53PM
I've been building a smaller sand table that will be coffee table sized (600 x 990 drawing area). Like the original, it uses a stacked belt corexy mechanism driven by iHSV-42 servomotors at up to 1600 mm/sec and acceleration up to about 15k mm/sec^2. Linear bearings are all sliding type, made of PTFE. The frame is made from 45 mm square t-slot aluminum and the X axis guide is a 16 mm square aluminum tube. The motor mounts, corner pulley blocks, Y axis bearing blocks, and magnet carriage are all 3D printed in ABS. Pulleys are made from stacked F625 bearings for long life and quiet operation. It uses a Duet WiFi controller and has separate power supplies for each motor.

Here's a video of the mechanism running almost silently at 200 mm/sec, with some explanation of the various parts of the mechanism.

Here's a video of the mechanism running at 1500 mm/sec.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2020 07:30AM by the_digital_dentist.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
November 24, 2020 09:50AM
Now there is a thought: A coffee table sized sand table built into a coffee table. No more books of the Deserts of the World or the Cars of Enzo Ferrari to entertain visitors, they can just be hypnotized by ever-changing patterns in the sand.

Mike
Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
November 24, 2020 10:43AM
That's the general idea.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
February 22, 2021 01:09PM
Greetings!

I've wanted a sand table for a long time. I'm in the processes of building a 500x500mm CoreXY plotter. I could repurpose it as a sand table.

So I don't reinvent the wheel:-)

Your videos look great! My cat would love this:-)

What magnet size are you using?

Ball bearing?

Where are you getting your sand? I saw another youtube video and the kid had issues and had to try different sand. I'm guess finer is better?

How much offset, if any do you have between magnet and ball?


What is the base you use to hold the sand? Plastic, Aluminum?

Any advice would be appreciated:-)

Max
Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
February 22, 2021 08:18PM
I use a 1" cube N52 magnet.

The bearings used for the pulleys are F625 type, stacked with printed flanges.

Sand is baking soda- I used sand blasting medium, but I suspect food grade is finer and should allow finer pattern details. The advantages of using baking soda are many- it doesn't get sticky, it doesn't attract insects, it's uniform grain size, and it's pure white. It's also available everywhere and very cheap.

In the Arrakis table, the bottom of the table is 1/4" thick baltic birch plywood, and there's an air gap of about 3 mm between the magnet and the bottom side of the plywood. It will work fine- The Spice Must Flow had a 1/2" piece of plywood for the bottom of the table and it ran fine without problems.

Don't use metal for the bottom of the sandbox. If you try to move it fast, the magnet will induce current is the metal that will create a magnetic field that opposes the motion and increases the load on the motors.

Make sure you position the magnet with the N-S poles oriented vertically. If not, the ball will be attracted to the edges of the magnet, not the center. You can identify the correct orientation by sticking the ball to the magnet- on two opposite sides (the N-S poles) it will stick to the center of the magnet, and on all the other sides it will stick at the edges.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2021 08:21PM by the_digital_dentist.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
February 22, 2021 08:26PM
Great info my friend!!!

I ordered the magnet! Do you have a pic of how you mounted your magnet. It seems very strong and I'm assuming you need to trap it well.

About how deep layer of sand?

What size ball bearing do you use?

I'm going to start ordering the parts!

Thanks

Max

Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2021 10:37PM by disneytoy.
Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
February 23, 2021 06:19AM
I used silicone caulk to hold the magnet on the carriage in Arrakis.

Sand that's 1/4-1/3 the ball diameter seems to work best. I'm using a 15mm diameter ball and usually set the sand at about 4 mm deep. You can use larger or smaller balls, and with a small table it might be better to use a small ball.

You must design in the ability to access the sand easily- after running patterns for a few days you will have to redistribute the sand as it starts getting pushed to the perimeter of the sandbox.

I recently saw this: [www.edjulius.com]

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/2021 06:19AM by the_digital_dentist.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
February 23, 2021 12:23PM
I originally wanted to build a round Sandbot. I think that may be a scam site. The price is way too low. I think I saw a similar kickstarter in a couple hundred range.
Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
August 28, 2021 08:53PM
I have finally got it just about complete and fully operational:



The mechanism is built using 45 mm square t-slot, the sandbox is 1/2" baltic birch plywood on the sides and 1/4" baltic birch plywood on the bottom, covered with a sheet of EPDM roofing membrane. The sides of the sandbox have 1/2" high density foam and red and blue striped fur cloth. The top is an oak frame, stained and finished with oil based polyurethane, supporting the 4.7 mm thick glass. I may trim the fur that peeks out under the top cover on the inside of the box.

At 500mm/sec it is completely silent. At 1000 mm/sec it is quiet enough that it wouldn't disturb anyone.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
August 29, 2021 05:10AM
Video please.

Mike
Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
August 29, 2021 11:16AM
As requested: Arrakis


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VDX
Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
August 29, 2021 12:44PM
... nice! thumbs up

How often have you to relocate the sand for uniform/even fill?


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
August 29, 2021 12:53PM
After several hours of drawing. The sand tends to get pushed out toward the perimeter of the drawing area.

I've got too much sand on the table right now- I'll be pushing some off the drawing area.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
August 29, 2021 01:50PM
... hmmm ... maybe a sort of "concave dish" in combination with a "redistributing" pattern could be usefull ... but then the manufacturing and slider mechanics would be a bit more complicated smoking smiley


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
September 08, 2021 10:55AM
I think something like the mechanism used in a powder bed 3D printer would be best. Push all the sand into a box, then push up from the bottom and squeegee it out in a uniform layer over the drawing area.
Maybe the next table...


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
September 19, 2021 01:07AM
I have written a post processor for the pattern files that allows me to specify two speeds, one for the drawing and one for the motion along the edges of the pattern/table. That means I can draw the pattern slowly to preserve detail and I can run the edges very fast to reduce time to pattern completion (especially for patterns with a lot of edge motion).

I posted a sample video of output from the post processor running on the table, here.

In this example, the drawing runs at 100 mm/sec and the edge speed is run at 1000 mm/sec, acceleration is set to 10k mm/sec^2.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
October 31, 2021 08:32AM
Blog post on Arrakis is here.


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Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
November 02, 2021 09:33AM
Hi,

thanks for posting all this. Would you recommend the PTFE block bearing on the Y axle for a real 3D printer (with a big heavy printer head on it) as well, or is it not accurate enough? I can imagine 3D printing requires more accuracy than this sand table, but it is a very elegant and quiet system.

Thanks,

Hugo
Re: A new, smaller sand table mechanism: Arrakis
November 02, 2021 10:28AM
No, I would not recommend using the type of bearings I used in the sand table for most 3D printing applications. There is too much slop. Sand tables are very forgiving of slop (except for the noise it produces). Most 3D printers need everything to fit tightly so they can produce accurate shapes and precise positioning of the lines of plastic on each layer.

OTOH, if you're building a printer that's going to use a 3mm nozzle and extrude cake frosting, or a 30 mm nozzle to extrude concrete, the PTFE bearings like I used should be fine.


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