I think you really can take ideas from the internet, and be the first to patent it without fear of losing a lawsuit. May 30, 2014 05:31AM |
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transfer your designs from Makerbot's Thingiverse[/color] to Ultimaker's YouMagine.
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Tat said, publishing an idea to many forums and wikis is just as fine. Not all of them can be edited.
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They (Makerbot) try to patent community-developed features. There are 70 patent files!!!
Makerbot patents
[www.freepatentsonline.com]
Auto-Bed-Leveling, Dual-Extrusion, Color switching, Networked Printing.... and many more
I would create some prior art documents, but I do not know how to do that and furthermore I am afraid that my english is not good enough.
But I would support any kind of action against criminal makerbot activities.
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How do I help this along?
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First thing I'm going to print.Quote
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In the meantime... transfer your designs from Makerbot's Thingiverse to Ultimaker's YouMagine. It's the closest reputable alternative at this point.
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There is at least one already: [www.defensivepublications.org]Quote
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I believe there is a need for an online tool that guide's someone through the process of describing their open source invention.
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Defensive publications, which are endorsed by the USPTO as an IP rights management tool, are documents that provide descriptions and artwork of a product, device or method so that it enters the public domain and becomes prior art. This powerful preemptive disclosure prevents other parties from obtaining a patent on the product, device or method. It enables the original inventor to ensure that they have access to their invention by preventing others from later making patent claims on it. It also means that they do not have to shoulder the cost of patent applications.
The Defensive Publications program, a component of Linux Defenders, enables non-attorneys to use a set of Web-based forms to generate defensive publications. It relies on substantial participation from the open source community as it relates to disclosures. Defensive publication drafts will be reviewed and edited as needed and at no charge by OIN’s attorneys. The completed defensive publication will be added by OIN to the IP.com database, which is in turn used by IP attorneys and the patent and trademark office to search for prior art when examining patent applications.
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No... It might have been [www.researchdisclosure.com]Quote
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Were you thinking of this website IdeaFons.com, they tried but failed on Kickstarter.
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Well said and a fine idea. I don't think it will ever happen. Here is my little hypothesis regarding self-replication (previously posted here):Quote
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Replication by individuals rules out the whole patenting system. Maybe we should return back to it?
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Oh so much cynicism from one so young. (O.K., I don't actually know how old you are, but being a gambling man, I bet large gobs of money that you are much younger than me.)Quote
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Maybe I should go find a forum where the art students hang out...
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Hey, that's me he's talking about!Quote
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Why just the other day I read a new guy insisting that first rule of his new printer design would be that "absolutely no functional part will be 3D printed".
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With all this said, please keep in mind that patents matter for those buying instead of making, only. Accordingly, one way to work around patents is to make designs DIY-able. Whatever people build at home is perfectly legal, patented or not.
At least that's the law in Europe. If this isn't the case in the U.S., patenters still have a hard time to hunt down every single device built on a kitchen desk. Not really practicable.
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MattMosesRepRap began as a low-cost motion platform with a gizmo that squirts out hot plastic. After years of intense development, there are now a thousand machines on the market that... are low-cost motion platforms with gizmos that squirt out hot plastic.
- No volunteer or group of volunteers are capable of making a self replicating 3D printer because as soon as a volunteer gets something printing they stop worrying about self replication and start worrying about their Kickstarter campaign.
- A self replicating 3D printer will never be made.
- Unless it's made by an art student who thinks it would be funny.
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I can't think of any instances, from the most "famous" names and founders here, down to the most eager newcomer, where my little hypothesis doesn't hold true.
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Hey, that's me he's talking about!Quote
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Why just the other day I read a new guy insisting that first rule of his new printer design would be that "absolutely no functional part will be 3D printed".
Yeah, it's visible in the printing world that people have shifted away from the idea of self replication, printed parts just don't put out the quality and reliability that industrial parts do.
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RepRap began as a low-cost motion platform with a gizmo that squirts out hot plastic. After years of intense development, there are now a thousand machines on the market that... are low-cost motion platforms with gizmos that squirt out hot plastic. The fanciest new model simply isn't any damn different from this one. They all do the same damn thing.
I can't think of any instances, from the most "famous" names and founders here, down to the most eager newcomer, where my little hypothesis doesn't hold true. Why just the other day I read a new guy insisting that first rule of his new printer design would be that "absolutely no functional part will be 3D printed". No one here cares about self-replication.
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