bed leveling and ambient temperature August 31, 2016 01:21AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 9
hi, i was printing good until yesterday , i dont know what happens, i level my bed like always, i checked the axis some days ago and they where squared, my dude is what is the ambient temperature needed? can i print pla in a room temperature of 12-19 celcius ? or is too cold? my z endstop broke, so what i do is after level the bed i reset the printer so start at 0 in z axis, i always do the same, it broke even before i finish the printer and i dint buy a new one becouse that method works, but heres my other dude, the paper i use to level the bed has a thickness of 0.1 mm, when i tell the slic3r that i want a first layer height of 0.35 mm (the standar value) actualy is doing 0.45 scine the 0.1 mm of the paper?, or it do the math the arduino (using marlin)? after seeing the code i think is making layer of 0.45 becouse move the z axis to 0.35
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and after this code is doing movents with the extrusion
 Re: bed leveling and ambient temperature August 31, 2016 09:08AM Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 5,786
Yes, 12-19C is fine for printing PLA.

Yes, the slicer assumes you start with the nozzle at zero and then it moves up to whatever first layer thickness you set. If you set the nozzle at 0.1 mm using the paper then tell the slicer to print a 0.35 mm first layer, it will print at 0.1+0.35=0.45 mm. However, paper is "soft" and your printer is probably a little "soft" (slop in the bearings, flexible guide rails, etc.) so when you set the nozzle to grab the paper you're probably pretty close to 0 when you remove the paper. Of course, you're doing this when the nozzle is heated, right? If you do it when the nozzle is cold, there will be a bit of hard plastic hanging from the nozzle that will cause an error in setting the z=0 point.

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 Re: bed leveling and ambient temperature September 14, 2016 01:02AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 9
i bought a filler gauge and level my bed with the 0.1 mm gauge, then i move the z axis 0.1 mm to "touch" the nozzle, to be totaly 0, of course i do this with the nozzle out of the heatbed and start to print, and the result is freaking amazing , perfects first layers always, my extrusion problems go away, i also tried with a paper and the result is very good too, i stoped a print in the middle and i could see that the first layer is like a glass perfect bond totally flat, that solve all my problems
 Re: bed leveling and ambient temperature September 14, 2016 07:45AM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 413
just to add to what DD said:-
The 0.45 is assuming you have 0 in the z offset in your slicer. Normal practice is to set the Z offset to the paper thickness so you get the correct layer thickness. This is a negative value (- 0.1).
And it only affects the first layer since all the other layers will increase Z as per your layer height specified.
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