delta level issue
August 14, 2015 09:08AM
Hello guys,
when i run command G29, it's shows me below result in marlin..

>>> g29
SENDING:G29
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 09:45AM
You have connected the Z proble wrong or set the settings for the z probe wrong.

Issue the following command:

M119

Now manually with your finger activate the Z probe and while holding that issue M119 again.

Report your findings.
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 10:32AM
i got these readings
>>> m119
SENDING:M119
Reporting endstop status
x_max: TRIGGERED
y_max: TRIGGERED
z_min: open
z_max: TRIGGERED
SENDING:G0 F8000 X0 Y0 Z0
>>> m119
SENDING:M119
Reporting endstop status
x_max: open
y_max: open
z_min: open
z_max: open




Quote
LarsK
You have connected the Z proble wrong or set the settings for the z probe wrong.

Issue the following command:

M119

Now manually with your finger activate the Z probe and while holding that issue M119 again.

Report your findings.
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 11:52AM
Do your Z-probe touch the bed when you issue: G0 F8000 X0 Y0 Z0?

What does M114 if you trigger your Z-probe with your finger?
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 11:59AM
Please post your configuration.h
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 12:03PM
Quote
LarsK
Please post your configuration.h

He posted that in his other thread : [forums.reprap.org]
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 12:04PM
here is my configuration.h

Quote
LarsK
Please post your configuration.h
Attachments:
open | download - Configuration.h (25.3 KB)
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 12:12PM
SENDING:G0 F8000 X0 Y102 Z0
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:0.00Y:90.00Z:0.00E:0.00 Count X: 153.15Y:153.15Z:241.77



Quote
Koenig
Do your Z-probe touch the bed when you issue: G0 F8000 X0 Y0 Z0?

What does M114 if you trigger your Z-probe with your finger?
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 12:36PM
Something is wrong mechanically or in the wiring or your z probe was not triggered when going to z0.

Redo the test with your finger triggering you z probe.

Post a photo of your Z probe.

Put a multimeter with continuity test on the end stop and see if that triggers.
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 01:09PM
these are images of my nozzle to bed position at different towers and at the origin.. i dont know how to get flat nozzle movement
.
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open | download - IMG_6714.JPG (94.9 KB)
open | download - IMG_6716.JPG (583.9 KB)
open | download - IMG_6717.JPG (93.8 KB)
open | download - IMG_6718.JPG (98.4 KB)
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 01:18PM
Quote
dipenjungi
these are images of my nozzle to bed position at different towers and at the origin.. i dont know how to get flat nozzle movement
.

Looking at your pictures... You cant issue G29 without even having a probe.

You'll have to do a manual calibration using M666 and M665, or instead of M665 alter DELTA_SMOOT_ROD_OFFSET in configuration.h
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 01:18PM
Quote
LarsK
Something is wrong mechanically or in the wiring or your z probe was not triggered when going to z0.

Redo the test with your finger triggering you z probe.

Post a photo of your Z probe.

Put a multimeter with continuity test on the end stop and see if that triggers.

Please address the above first. After your Z-probe is working we can easily solve the problem with not flat movement.

If the photos your posted are of your CURRENT setup then Koenig is correct and you do not have a Z probe and for that reason your Z probe signal is not working.

Can you confirm that the pictures you just posted are of your CURRENT configuration and that you do not have any sensors to send electronic signals from your Z-probe to your RAMPS board?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/14/2015 01:23PM by LarsK.
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 01:35PM
Can you get a microswitch like this:



Do you have a soldering iron?

Do you have 2 m small cable that we can use to connect it to the RAMPS?

Do you have some small pin connectors? Like any of these:





Do you have some superglue (Locktite glue)?


If yes to all this then I will instruct you how to make a Z-probe and you will be OK soon.
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 04:17PM
my z probe reading is as below:

>>> g29
SENDING:G29
-4.550 -4.550 -4.550 -4.687 -4.737 -4.737 -4.737
-4.938 -4.938 -5.087 -5.138 -5.263 -5.525 -5.525
-5.087 -5.325 -5.412 -5.650 -5.787 -5.850 -5.912
-5.237 -5.475 -5.762 -6.100 -6.150 -6.625 -25.600
-25.188 -25.413 -24.375 -24.975 -25.250 -25.600 -25.600
-25.188 -25.188 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600
-25.025 -25.025 -25.025 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600 -25.600



Quote
LarsK
Can you get a microswitch like this:



Do you have a soldering iron?

Do you have 2 m small cable that we can use to connect it to the RAMPS?

Do you have some small pin connectors? Like any of these:





Do you have some superglue (Locktite glue)?


If yes to all this then I will instruct you how to make a Z-probe and you will be OK soon.

Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 05:47PM
I don't understand if you have a z probe or not.

Please post a photo of your entire printer and one close up of your current z probe.
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 05:58PM
i did but my printer is behaving strangely,that the problem, reading seems like ok but when i calibrate it's no doing rightly....


Quote
LarsK
I don't understand if you have a z probe or not.

Please post a photo of your entire printer and one close up of your current z probe.
Attachments:
open | download - IMG_6720.JPG (114.6 KB)
open | download - IMG_6722.JPG (91.9 KB)
Re: delta level issue
August 14, 2015 09:32PM
Hello, please run the below code and report back the z probe results. Based on those numbers I will be able to tell you what is going on. Please be sure to explain if the Z probe does not seem to probe correctly at all point. That is, if it triggers and moves on without actually ever touching the bed.


G1 x0 y0 z10
G30
G1 x55 F2400
G30
G1 X38.9 Y38.9
G30
G1 X0 Y55
G30
G1 X-38.9 Y38.9
G30
G1 X-55 Y0
G30
G1 X-38.9 Y-38.9
G30
G1 X0 Y-55
G30
G1 X38.9 Y-38.9
G30
Re: delta level issue
August 15, 2015 04:26AM
HI ONLY I CAN PERFORM AT G1 x0 y0 z10 ONLY BECAUSE AT G1 x55 F2400 MY X TOWER CAN'T PERFORM IT WILL GIVE ME WRONG ORIGIN AND SO ON, AT G1 Z10 MY RESULT IS AS BELOW:

>>> G1 x0 y0 z10
SENDING:G1 X0 Y0 Z10
>>> G30
SENDING:G30
Z-Tower Endstop Offsets
-5.4250 X:0.00 Y:0.00 Z:0.00
-5.1750 -15.5000 Tower Position Adjust
-6.1750 A:0.00 B:0.00 C:0.00
-3.2000 -18.2250 I:0.00 J:0.00 K:0.00
-13.6125 Delta Radius: 129.6300
X-Tower Y-Tower Diag Rod: 245.0000


Quote
LarsK
Hello, please run the below code and report back the z probe results. Based on those numbers I will be able to tell you what is going on. Please be sure to explain if the Z probe does not seem to probe correctly at all point. That is, if it triggers and moves on without actually ever touching the bed.


G1 x0 y0 z10
G30
G1 x55 F2400
G30
G1 X38.9 Y38.9
G30
G1 X0 Y55
G30
G1 X-38.9 Y38.9
G30
G1 X-55 Y0
G30
G1 X-38.9 Y-38.9
G30
G1 X0 Y-55
G30
G1 X38.9 Y-38.9
G30
Re: delta level issue
August 15, 2015 04:35AM
AT G1 x0 y0 z10 MY LATESR READINGS:

>>> G30
SENDING:G30
Z-Tower Endstop Offsets
-18.0000 X:0.00 Y:0.00 Z:0.00
-12.7625 -19.8750 Tower Position Adjust
-7.0625 A:0.00 B:0.00 C:0.00
-7.5000 -7.3875 I:0.00 J:0.00 K:0.00
-6.8250 Delta Radius: 129.6300
X-Tower Y-Tower Diag Rod: 245.0000




Quote
dipenjungi
HI ONLY I CAN PERFORM AT G1 x0 y0 z10 ONLY BECAUSE AT G1 x55 F2400 MY X TOWER CAN'T PERFORM IT WILL GIVE ME WRONG ORIGIN AND SO ON, AT G1 Z10 MY RESULT IS AS BELOW:

>>> G1 x0 y0 z10
SENDING:G1 X0 Y0 Z10
>>> G30
SENDING:G30
Z-Tower Endstop Offsets
-5.4250 X:0.00 Y:0.00 Z:0.00
-5.1750 -15.5000 Tower Position Adjust
-6.1750 A:0.00 B:0.00 C:0.00
-3.2000 -18.2250 I:0.00 J:0.00 K:0.00
-13.6125 Delta Radius: 129.6300
X-Tower Y-Tower Diag Rod: 245.0000


Quote
LarsK
Hello, please run the below code and report back the z probe results. Based on those numbers I will be able to tell you what is going on. Please be sure to explain if the Z probe does not seem to probe correctly at all point. That is, if it triggers and moves on without actually ever touching the bed.


G1 x0 y0 z10
G30
G1 x55 F2400
G30
G1 X38.9 Y38.9
G30
G1 X0 Y55
G30
G1 X-38.9 Y38.9
G30
G1 X-55 Y0
G30
G1 X-38.9 Y-38.9
G30
G1 X0 Y-55
G30
G1 X38.9 Y-38.9
G30
Re: delta level issue
August 15, 2015 04:36AM
G1 x0 y0 z10

>>> G30
SENDING:G30
Z-Tower Endstop Offsets
-18.0000 X:0.00 Y:0.00 Z:0.00
-12.7625 -19.8750 Tower Position Adjust
-7.0625 A:0.00 B:0.00 C:0.00
-7.5000 -7.3875 I:0.00 J:0.00 K:0.00
-6.8250 Delta Radius: 129.6300
X-Tower Y-Tower Diag Rod: 245.0000
Re: delta level issue
August 15, 2015 02:16PM
when i do manually calibration reading shows me;

SENDING:G0 F8000 X0 Y0 Z0 (pass the paper test)

SENDING:G0 F8000 X88.33 Y-51 Z0
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:88.33Y:-51.00Z:2.00E:0.00 Count X: 141.94Y:245.39Z:141.94 ( At z;2.00 pass the paper test)


SENDING:G0 F8000 X-88.33 Y-51 Z0
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:-88.33Y:-51.00Z:2.50E:0.00 Count X: 245.94Y:142.49Z:142.49 ( At z;2.50 pass the paper test)

SENDING:G0 F8000 X0 Y102 Z0
>>> m114
SENDING:M114
X:0.00Y:90.00Z:2.20E:0.00 Count X: 155.35Y:155.35Z:243.98 ( At z;2.20 pass the paper test)

but when i run the G29 it shows me below readings, i don't know why these much of reading differences are coming.

>>> g29
SENDING:G29
-6.662 -6.662 -6.662 -6.388 -6.250 -6.250 -6.250
-7.337 -7.337 -7.125 -7.050 -6.750 -6.500 -6.500
-7.638 -7.625 -7.500 -7.225 -7.013 -6.725 -6.600
-8.050 -8.125 -8.125 -7.700 -7.475 -8.513 -8.425
-25.600 -25.600 -9.788 -9.438 -9.188 -8.950 -8.875
-24.200 -24.200 -23.975 -23.587 -23.025 -22.425 -22.425
-23.550 -23.550 -23.550 -23.687 -23.350 -23.350 -23.350
Re: delta level issue
August 15, 2015 03:57PM
You need to stop doing random stuff and focus on your issues. This means that you for now need to stop calling G29 because auto bed leveling is not your issue nor your solution.

Further, when I instruct you to execute a series of codes it does not help that you just do a single command. If you are unable to do the entire code that I gave you, then we need to figure out why you are unable to do that.

Now;

What is the reason your printer is unable to do the code I instructed you to do? Is your printer so small that X55 is outside the area or is it because it does something unwanted at that point?

Post in words and also if possible with pictures what happens when you call G1 X55 Y0 Z10
Re: delta level issue
August 16, 2015 01:46AM
Quote
LarsK
what happens when you call G1 X55 Y0 Z10

Is that a real command? Without Fxxxx parameter, what will be the speed?
-Olaf
Re: delta level issue
August 16, 2015 07:46AM
Quote
o_lampe
Quote
LarsK
what happens when you call G1 X55 Y0 Z10

Is that a real command? Without Fxxxx parameter, what will be the speed?
-Olaf

The last set speed of the printer will be used when not including f
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