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My feeling is that the design should make provision for 2x PSU inputs and that the customer must buy his/her own PSUs as a first option when ordering. PC PSUs are as common as grass and I still have 3 lying around (that I have not yet decided to disassemble yet). RRP can save on volumetric shipping by cutting it out from the contents. If the price has to stay the same (plus package volume) then fill it up with spares and other goodies. E.g. I would really like to have another set or 2 of the hot-end (nozzle, heater block etc...). The rest the client can print themselves. Even the stepper motors are easy to obtain. Just a suggestion.
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I'd suggested in another thread (and mentioned earlier in this one) using a 200VA 12V lighting transformer switched by a relay ), and I think I'm going to give this a go soon, probably just for the bed (since it's not pwm driven a relay should cope, though a silicon solution may be a better option), the lighting transformers are very cheap and rated for continuous driving of heating wire in bulb filaments and their inrush current, I'll leave the head running off the ATX initially, but again a relatively cheap DC 50W "desktop" psu could drive this through a mod such as treth has suggested using the external FET output. I'll keep a 12V supply to the board to run the fan, since I don't think the ATX 5V in or the USB 5V have enough margin after their diode voltage drops onto the 5V net to run the 3.3V regulator reliably.
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@victors, there already is a heatsink, and it is the heatsink block that the screws are screwed into. So it's not a case of 240C making its way up the screws, its a case of heat starting at 240C trying to make its way up the nozzle, getting removed to some (hopefully large) extent in the heatsink block, then heat making its way from the heatsink block up the screws. So I think the answer is to improve the cooling of the heatsink so that it remains below the temperature at which ABS softens (and printing the nozzle mount in ABS of course). Two ways to help this are to use good thermal compound when mounting the heatsink, and to use a better fan. The fans shipped with the kit are not ideally suited to applications like this where the back pressure is high. RRP are shipping at least two different types of fan, and one type may work better than the other.
Are you able to measure the temperature of the heatsink block in your setup?
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Hacking the power supply would be easy if I had a circuit diagram to work off.
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RRP, what type of plastic did you use to print the parts, PLA or ABS?
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